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Just wanted peoples opinion on this play at tonights 10 re-buy at Sheffield.

Short Stack at the final table is usually around 25k. There are 3 tables left, i have around 10k in the BB, blinds at 400-800.

Folded round to guy with around 23k, who limps on the button, guy on sb limps, and i look down at 6-6.

I move all in, sensing weakness, as both players were playing fairly aggressive, and see it as chance to pick up a nice pot there and then...

Button says he's not worried about me but worried about the guy who limped on the SB, but calls the 10k with K-10s and the sb folds.

Anyway, he ends up hitting a flush draw on the flop, top pair on the turn and a flush on the river and im out...

I pretty happy with my move, as i believe it was a good play, the call with K-10s is in my opinion is very questionable, as he's almost certainly behind (any ace) and has put 800 into the pot so is hardly pot committed, he could also quite easily fold every hand and make the final table which is around 200 for 10th.

I know 6-6 is likely to be a fifty fifty to any call, if i raise to say 3k, he's likely to call with K-10's and id have prolly ended up loosing as he call my bet on the flop with his flush draw, two overcards etc

Just wondered if anyone fancied sharing their opinion on the play... constructive criticism would be particularly welcome  :)

Cheers

Ry

Yiou did nowt wrong IMO. In fact, I'd go further - you read it 100% right - it WAS a 50/50. It just happened to land on the wrong 50%. That's the very essence of poker & 50/50's. If you always go in ahead, you will win more than you lose.

Other peoples play, whether good or bad is irrevelant. You play your cards, they play theirs. If he makes a bad play, thats a GOOD THING.

Wise words there from our eminence grise.

Or is that eminence blonde ?

 ;D

First off, the button call is shocking. To flatcall preflop with KT is perfectly fine. Personally, I would have considered raising. However, to call a 10k all-in is baffling. He's risking almost half his stack with a hand he knows must be behind. Any ace, any pair, even a KJ has him beat.

I don't see much wrong with your raise. Normally, I would be hesitant to put in 10k with the blinds at only 400/800. You're risking 10k to win a pot of 2.4K. In my opinion, you still have plenty of time and can afford to be a bit more patient. However, considering that you sensed weakness, which was justified, I think it's a nice move and worth the risk. The only worrying thing is that the muppet called.

To summarise, considering you sensed weakness, I see no problem with your play.

By the way, it cost matey boy 10k into a pot of 12.4k. Now that's not the best pot odds and somehow I don't think his KT is an obligatory call.  ???

What made me chuckle was the fact that he said he had me beat but was worried about the SB before he called...

I didnt want to raise to say 3k because if cud have quite easily have got both players calling, both were fairly loose, hence the all in move, if they have risk half their stack on a 50 50 thats there choice, i certainly wouldnt have been calling with 6-6 put it that way :)

personally i dont like all in moves with small pairs ,you see it alot on the net, but in your case i think you were right. the button should of raised anyway to try and steal the blinds, the fact he didnt shows he knows he has a weak hand and is trying to see a cheap flop. the sb flat calls for the same reason, no hand and it only costs him 400 to enter a 2k pot. for the buton to call your raise admitting he is worried about the sb calling shows that he knows he is weak.i dont think you were in the wrong even though you were 50 /50 the only thing you can look at is like snoopy said you had plentyof time and you have just posted the blinds for this round. having said that i would not expect a call from an all in raise after they both limped in from there positions .unlucky mate

Although his call is poor, we should all by now expect these poor calls. Maybe a better move is checking and betting on the flop....

what were the blind levels do they double? or go 600-1200, ? my local goes 50-100/200-400/300-600/500-1000/1000-2000/ etc etc?
what i would of done is,: on the button i prob would of tryied a small raise, or limp/fold (is not an option to him, by what you say is his nature of play,) 

the way he would of looked at it is,   he has flat calls, with a hand that is likely to be ahead of your 2 hands ( 3 handed K10 suited is normally fav ) the small blind completes he pretty mutch has no option he has to call he is getting the odds,  he sees you look at your cards pause/ponder then go all-in, he puts u on a pkt pair (the only hand that you would go all-in with in this spot maybe AK i think you would see a flop with that though) figures he has 2 overs and wants to gamble to either have some chips to do something rather than limp into the final,

his major mistake is not re-raiseing your bet to make sure the SB doesnt get invovled,

in small buy-in comps,   that i play everynight of the week you play players like this you just have to adjust to his style,  you know he is a looseish player, so you must of known he is going to call?

btw im not saying you did anything wrong, who am i to say anything lol,  i have only been playing 18 months and have a hell of a lot to learn still, im just trying to look at it from his point of view

i hope you take my view as intened

stu :)

by that reckoning surely he raises on the button?

why ? when it gives him 2 chances of winning by flat calling,   1) he has postion on all the streets 2) you could take him for nothing and pay him off when he hits

If his K10 is fave 3 handed, then surely his best chance of winning is by taking the blinds uncontested rather than messing around on the flop.

ya im not saying he shouldnt of raised,   i would of raised, and passed to your re-raise most likely  im just looking at it from his point of view