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Who will win?  I say it will be 1-1 .    I was wondering as it is the England team and Wayne Rooney's foot that is constantly in the media these days. Does Rooney's foot get special treatment?  does it have its own chef, agent and hotel room? .  It is a very special foot. I hope that the rest of the team don't become too jealous of it's success.

Ever the optimist... I think tonight is the night it all clicks... 3 - 0!

I don't rate England and am a constant pessimist. I do though see some value at 13-8 and will be backign England to win

Engerland are gonna romp it.

this ones boring and far to easy to call, the real question about this game is how drunk will i get whilst watching it?

1)not very

2)maybe a little

3)quite

4)very

5)slaughtered

6)not allowed back in the house

7)wheres my trousers gone?

i just tried to have a few corect score bets on tonights game but ballsed it up so i hope sweden win 3-1 or 4-0. Come on Sweden.  ::)

I am on Sweden for the win.

Both teams have been poor this world cup, however i feel Sweden built some confidence from the last game against Paraquay where they had a lot of chances towards the end.

Sweden to be the team to cockup the least.

Both to go out in the 2nd round....

Then i hope you put a shedload on it, COME ON ENGLAND!!

England not beaten Sweden since 1968, I can see where your confidence comes from, both teams are playing rubbish I go with Sark's 1-1

1-1 is the most likely score by statistical analysis. England have a 44% chance of winning, Sweden have a 30% chance of winning and the draw is 26%.

Come on England.

I am disappointed in your lack of blind patriotism/optimism flushy.

Probably because i am not English! I am British.

Didn't everyone see how awful Sweden were against Trinidad AND Paraguay.

Ok we were poor, but they were atrocious. 2-0 to England!! Definetly value at 13/8.

i reckon a stick on draw.

Neither side really needs to push it and truth be told the draw suits both sides...england want to top the group and sweden would be happy to qualify after their start.

How many scotsmen do you hear saying i am british when it comes to football?

Personally, i'm english.

I think Sweden will be quite happy to win the group....

Well i hold a British passport, i dont hold an English passport.

My mother is Italian, my Father is Irish.

How on earth am i in anyway English?

yes flushy happy to win the group if they can but actually content to qualify..if they go for it and get hit with the sucker punch they could still be on the bus home.

dong get me wrong i think they have the players who can win it but they have not put in a performance yet that suggests they will.
England whilst not setting the heather on fire are competent..thats all..hence the draw.

I don't think they will be too worried about England scoring.

So far this worldcup they have "scored" 3 goals. One an own goal, 1 a blatent foul shoul have been disallowed, and 1 proper goal!

strewth flushy..are you english.....disallowed goal...you will be strung up..

We are also due a "dive" from Owen which should result in our scoring from a penalty.

I just said i wasnt english......

And if, any England fan reall thinks that : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2WxxwYBvrk&search=crouch%20hair (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2WxxwYBvrk&search=crouch%20hair) Is not a foul then it just goes to show how hard it is for a neutral so support England!

lol..sorry i`m hard of reading....and yes it was a foul but there will be a karma moment later on for that!

King of Kings to score a hat trick 66/1 come on!!  :D

Why not just set light to the money?

A scottish bloke sent this my fella:

"We've seen the 'Believe' Mars bar in England - now here's the one they're selling in the homeland"



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Nice bit of photoshop. However Tunnocks (who make the Teacakes that Teackae uses as an avatar/chip protector) have changed the name of their caramel wafers ...

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Hehe - modern technology - how blessed we are!

I just want Gerrard to do well tonight.  He just doesnt seem to have that same sparkle he has when he pulls on a Liverpool shirt.  Might have something to do with where Erikson plays him but thats a whole other debate.

Just play well as a team tonight boys!!

England won't lose tonight

Sweden have scored one goal in their last five games. England have one of (actually, the) best defence in the competition. That all signals no Sweden goals- just a question of whether and how many we can score!

Amen.

13/8 for the draw. lol

It will be 4-0. Trust me.

Who to Tikay?

I think its a certain 0-0 bore draw, and have taken this at 11/2

Jesus Christ isn't playing, he strained his shoulder in training. The Holy Spirit is on the bench though.

2, chile was the other game.

He isn't referring to Jesus. He's referring to Crouchaldinho!

Who is it between?

ITV has the worst all round line up ever....

I am referring to God himself.  JC ain't got a look in there boys!!

You are my Larrson ...........................

Draw suits both sides, so a draw it will be.

According to Pearce "on paper they can't beat us"

why has he got a cotton bud stuck to his cheek?

you have got to be kidding

Hmmmmm......

Don't you think a team like Argentina or Brazil would make mince meat of the England defence?

Yes I do. Campbell was shocking.

Campbell seems to have been around for ages. England must be in bad shape if they need a 17 year old that has never played, and a bunch of other players with injuries.

To be honest Sark I think it comes down to our manager's mentality.

We have Bent who scored the best part of 20 goals this season and Defoe who is capable of the same but Eriksson, for some unknown reason, didn't take them.

A bit harsh to blame Campbell for coming into a game where the defense had looked dodgy from the start.

I don't think u can really point at Campbell - did you not see the blocks and tackles. From the throw in Terry miss judged the ball and we were all over from set pieces for the whole game.

The defence looked fine until Ferdinand was injured. Coincidence?

Yes Campbell made some good blocks but that doesn't mean he had a good game. I've seen Boumsong make good blocks!

 :redcard: :redcard: :redcard:

No need to bring bambi into this!

(by the way i havent seen them in a black and white shirt yet!)

At one stage I was going to say well done England but then the commentators and the pundits upset me by claiming Joe Cole had scored the goal of the tourney!!!!!!! Arrrrrrrghhhhhhhh!!

Fine goal as itw as, itw as not goal of the tourney didn't theys ee Argentina's 2nd against Serbia??  Possibly the best world cup goal I have ever seen.

Cole hut the ball sweetly perhaps more of a hit and hope from that range but still a really good goal.

Bambi LOL!

He just cant, he just cant, he just cant control his feet!

Which reminds me - now that we're selling Traore, surely Boumsong is the worst defender in the Premiership?

Is Argentina's better than Brazil's famous passing goal?

ffs!

If and it is a big IF scotland ever got to the world cup and even scored a goal as good as cole's, the scottish pundits would be saying that the goal was "the greatest ever scored in a world cup",(qualifying and finals included.) So please stop being so bitter, and get over it!

btw, the goal wasnt as good as the Argies goal earlier in the torunament, everyone knows that, heat of the moment stuff!

The Argies are more likely to make corned beef of the defence!

Thought England played well 1st half & deserved to be ahead, 2nd half they were shocking again.
I've said it before but SGE is holding you back big time but I think you already know that.

I don't gove a f**k if scotland get to a world cup finals mate not the nation I support.

Are yous aying that Coles goals is the best so far in the World Cup?

Ooops I never read the bottom part!!

I think so Baron.  It was definately on  par with it.  Thats like the was Maradonna better than Pele question though.  It seems to chnage depending inw hat you have watched.

Maybe from the match commentator but Venables will still claiming the same at half time.

You cant take anything that c*nt says seriously...

Sweden had already scored from a corner and hit the bar from set pieces before Cambell came on.

The defence certainly did not "look fine until Cambell came on" imo

Archie Gemmell scored the greatest WC ever in 1978 v Holland, closely followed by Maradonnas first v England in Mexico 86

I think a draw was a fair result, England will get past Ecuador, i fear for thier chances after that!

The goal, it was the best "strike" of the world cup, the Argentina goal was obviously a much better goal.

And yes of course Bandit there is a hit and hope aspect to that goal, however sometimes they do go in, and with a player like cole that is more often than the average player!

I'm getting worried with Robbo's performances as well.

Campbell was at fault with the 2nd goal, partly the reason is because Terry missed it, but Campbell had time to adjust accordinly, hence the over head clearance he tried

Good answer - I thought the move was better but Brazil's was a) in a World Cup final and b) Vs a world class Italian defence.

So Brazil's just edges it for me.

If you read what I said you will see your post is in error.

Ferdinand was injured at least a few minutes before he went off, possibly more than a few.

Best goal ever for me would be Whealans goal against USSR for Ireland in Euro 88 closely followed byRay Houghton's strike against England in the same championships  :D :D

Robinson 6 - Great save, decent distribution. Could do little for the goals.

Carragher 6 - You always know what you'll get with Carragher which is a gritty and brave performance. But does he have international quality?

Ferdinand 6 - Not very commanding at all

Terry 5 - Two awful errors by Terry lead to two Swedish corners. One they scored from, the second Robbo pulled off a great save onto the crossbar.

A.Cole 5 - Struggled to get forward and defensively not very solid.

Beckham 4 - Best set piece taker in the world? After watching Swedens set pieces (including a couple of good ones from Edman  ) it really does show how much we hype our own players.

Hargreaves 6 - Very good in the first half and that allowed the midfield to "play". Faded badly in the second and gave away a couple of dangerous free kicks. Totally switched off for the Swedish second goal and got caught ball watching.

Lampard 6 - Decent in the first half when he had space, barely got into it at all in the second

J.Cole 7 - Great first half goal and very influential. In the second half the Swedes closed him down and he went missing from the game but still popped up for a great ball to Gerrard for Englands second goal. Englands MoM. Gets a 9 out of 10 rating for his swan like dives every time he is fouled though  

Crouch 5 - Utterly ineffective up front. I doubt a Rooney/Crouch partnership can work but if it is to work it needs time.....which England don't have.

Rooney 6 - In the first half his presence offered England so much and he moved the ball with purpose and speed. Flagged in the second.


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Gerrard 6 - Another goal but he gave no solidarity to the midfield at all when he came on and still tries to hit the ball long when England are trying to keep possession.....as demonstrated just after Sweden equalised.

Campbell 5 - Terrible defending for Swedens second goal.

Overall 6 - First half was very impressive but was that because Sweden gave us so much time in midfield?  Joe Cole especially had tons of room to operate in and this was cut off in the second half.  It could also have something to do with Rooney becoming tired.  His linking the play was exactly what England had been missing.

If Owen and Ferdinand are injured for more than the next game it's almost certainly over as far as our chances are concerned.  If G.Neville is still out and we have a back line of Carragher, Campbell and Terry their lack of pace is going to get crucified unless we play extremely deep.  If we play extremely deep then the lone striker is going to need pace and stamina.  That rules out Crouch and Rooney lacks stamina at the moment (not to mention playing furthest forward isn't the game he plays effectively.  All it would do is isolate our most gifted player).

I can see Sven switching to a 4-5-1 but alas I can see him using the wrong personnel.  If we go to 4-5-1 it is imperitive we have pace in the midfield and someone who can run with the ball.  This would mean Lennon has to start wide right.  With regards to a holding player 4-5-1 means no change in the fact we'd need one.  That would be Hargreaves.  Joe Cole has the ability to run with the ball so him on the left is a no brainer.  That means two slots left for Svens beloved Beckham, Lampard and Gerrard.  Sven won't drop them.  The likely scenario is that he'll play Beckham, Gerrard, Hargreaves (DM), Lampard and J.Cole as the midfield and I personally don't feel that will be much good against quality opposition.

Gazzas goal v Scotland was better :D

Should have been a penalty!!   :D :D

Thats twice now in 3 games you have got a bit of luck

Dunno if it was better but it was certainly a great goal, itw as a pitty he never had the same co-ordination when playing the flute  :D

Agree with that 100%

Robinson 6 - Great save. I'd like to see less long balls. Could do little for the goals. Still looks a little unsure at times.

Carragher 6 - You always know what you'll get with Carragher which is a gritty and brave performance. Offers nothing going forwards on the right whatsoever.

Ferdinand 6 - Solid enough.

Terry 5 - Not his best game by any stretch. Looked shakey and unsure.

A.Cole 6 - I feel sorry for him, makes numerous runs outside Joe Cole only for JC to cut inside. Defensively fine.

Beckham 4 - Pants.

Hargreaves 7 - Broke up the play and distributed well.

Lampard 5 - Most shots in the tournament (out of everyone) and no goals. Offers little else. Faded badly in the 2nd half.

J.Cole 8 - Always an outlet to go forwards even when England struggle - shame he doesn't use Ashley Cole enough. Great goal.

Crouch 4 - Pants.

Rooney 6 - Useful first half but not match fit.

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Gerrard 7 - Great run accross the defenders for the 2nd goal. European Cup winner 2005. ;)

Campbell 3 - Pants.

Owen 3 - Proper pants.

Well actually I would say that you are wrong Baron.

England looked decidedly shaky tonight every time Sweden had a corner or free kick  in the first half. And I don't think Rio was injured then, seeing as how he came out for the second half when the defense looked just as shaky from set pieces.

I would not say that the England defense looked shakier in the second half than the first, in fact very little in it imo.

Fair enough Karabiner - that's your view. Campbell's never had a bad game in his life eh? ;)

In the first half I thought England were totally unconcerned at the back (mainly due to Sweden's poor 1st half I admit) and in the second half they were poor, moreso after the Ferdinand injury.

Owen 3

Baron that is very harsh, especially as he was only on the pitch for 79 seconds.

Were you not watching all those corners that had the England defense in a flap in the first half ?

Lol I know mate - was just so annoyed with his injury after so long waiting for him to link up with rooney.

The ones that didn't go in? Unlike the ones in the second half that did?

Put it anyway you like - Campbell was pants. Rio and Terry weren't amazing but Campbell was still pants.

When Rio came off:

"Well that HAS to be an injury - there's no way Sven would change his back four after Terry and Ferinand have played so well. The Defence has been pretty solid so far."

"Yeah it has."

Tell you what I'll admit Crouch was rubbish if you try to say a bad word about an Arsenal player? :D