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Title: England vs Portugal
Post by: Gryff on June 26, 2006, 04:48:54 PM
So whats the common opinion on this game?

England havn't played well so far but 1st game: heat killed them, trinidad and tobago always had 10 men behind the ball in defence and sweden were fired up for the game.

Ecuador we played a retarded formation with one striker and an ill midfielder.

Typically we underperform but we've had at least some semblance of reasons so far.

Portugal have beaten Mexico, Angola, Iran and Holland ( I'm still not convinced that was a football game ).
They looked good vs Holland but Holland was asleep until they had a man sent off.

Portugal will be without Costinha and Deco for the game however, along with a possibly still injured Ronaldho.

That said, I think 2-1 portugal or 1-1 ->extra time.





Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 26, 2006, 05:07:54 PM
3-1 to England  .... Gerrard (2), Beckham.   

England score early with a Beckham corner thats headed out to Gerrard who rifles in a shot from just outside the box.

1-0 at half time

Second half... and within 10 minutes Gerrard scores Englands 2nd following a neat build up ending with him connecting with a clever pass from Rooney and slotting the ball low into the net from about 8 yards.

Portugal then begin to push hard and get a goal back from a free kick that is headed in .....


last 10 minutes and england get a free kick .... Beckham strikes it and it is blocked by the wall... after a bit of scrapping, the ball comes back to Beckham and he curls a beauty into the left hand top corner of the net.

Dont say I never told ya :)


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Jim-D on June 26, 2006, 05:09:32 PM
3-1 to England  .... Gerrard (2), Beckham.   

England score early with a Beckham corner thats headed out to Gerrard who rifles in a shot from just outside the box.

1-0 at half time

Second half... and within 10 minutes Gerrard scores Englands 2nd following a neat build up ending with him connecting with a clever pass from Rooney and slotting the ball low into the net from about 8 yards.

Portugal then begin to push hard and get a goal back from a free kick that is headed in .....


last 10 minutes and england get a free kick .... Beckham strikes it and it is blocked by the wall... after a bit of scrapping, the ball comes back to Beckham and he curls a beauty into the left hand top corner of the net.

Dont say I never told ya :)

 ;iagree;

Exactley how i dreamt it.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Scottish Dave on June 26, 2006, 06:26:09 PM
3-1 to England  .... Gerrard (2), Beckham.   

England score early with a Beckham corner thats headed out to Gerrard who rifles in a shot from just outside the box.

1-0 at half time

Second half... and within 10 minutes Gerrard scores Englands 2nd following a neat build up ending with him connecting with a clever pass from Rooney and slotting the ball low into the net from about 8 yards.

Portugal then begin to push hard and get a goal back from a free kick that is headed in .....


last 10 minutes and england get a free kick .... Beckham strikes it and it is blocked by the wall... after a bit of scrapping, the ball comes back to Beckham and he curls a beauty into the left hand top corner of the net.

Dont say I never told ya :)

you seen the bookies about this?...

if not, ill give you 1000-1 mate  :D


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 26, 2006, 07:07:48 PM
1000/1 England 3-1 ??  I will have £5 with you .


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Bazzaboy on June 26, 2006, 07:25:41 PM
Prices the wrong way round IMO.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: ifm on June 26, 2006, 08:52:54 PM
1000/1 England 3-1 ??  I will have £5 with you .

Me too


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Scottish Dave on June 26, 2006, 10:15:42 PM
1000/1 England 3-1 ??  I will have £5 with you .

lol no not just 3-1, the entire post matey


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Scottish Dave on June 26, 2006, 10:16:22 PM
Prices the wrong way round IMO.

stick your price up then buddy


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Gryff on July 01, 2006, 01:35:46 PM
Match day!

I still think England have been mostly rubbish so far and we're going to need to improve to beat Portugal, even if they are playing with 5 men :p


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 01:42:00 PM
An England win.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: The Baron on July 01, 2006, 01:43:08 PM
An England win.

What he said.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Jim-D on July 01, 2006, 01:44:54 PM
An England win.

 ;iagree;


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 01, 2006, 01:46:38 PM
England to win 3 - 1 I'll give you 40/1 Kev for a £5??


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: AdamM on July 01, 2006, 02:03:44 PM
actually Bandit, didnt we have £5 on England reaching the Quater finals? I'm sure we did.

would you take that £5 at 40/1 on 3-1 England?


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: AdamM on July 01, 2006, 02:06:26 PM
my mistake. Checking back we have £10 on England making the semis. so it's £10 on England to progress.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Graham C on July 01, 2006, 02:17:46 PM
gone with Beckham to score first and England to win 2-1 (two seperate bets)


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: The Baron on July 01, 2006, 02:25:16 PM
Two seperate bets also,

England to win 3 - 1

Gerrard to score first.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 02:27:11 PM
I cannot see England scoring 2 goals, let alone 3.

However, I will predict a scoreline of: England 1-1 Portugal after 90 and the England 2-1 Portugal AET.



Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 01, 2006, 02:32:16 PM
myself and 2 other dudes in the work, have gone for a Double Scorecast for both todays games:

Rooney to score first and england to win 2-1 : Priced @  40-1
Ronaldo to score first and Brazil to win 3-1 : priced @ 50-1

2 x £5 singles (single being score and scorer ie scorecast) (£5 at 40-1 pays = £205 / £5 at 50-1 pays = £255)
1 x £4 double (the double pays £4 at 40-1 = £164       => £164 at 50-1 = £8,364!!!)

So, £8000 will ease the pain of England progressing


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Rupert on July 01, 2006, 03:17:02 PM
England to win on penalties, Ronaldo to cry


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 03:18:13 PM
Ronaldo to cry

Guaranteed.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Gryff on July 01, 2006, 04:47:07 PM
Argentinian Referee :-[
11.5 vs 11


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 04:48:38 PM
Argentinian Referee :-[
11.5 vs 11

Terry's yellow card= Joke

Beckham = Joke joke

Lampard = Joke Joke Joke

Sven = ...


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Jim-D on July 01, 2006, 04:49:42 PM
LENNON!!!!!!


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 04:53:18 PM
LENNON!!!!!!

Don't be silly, Sven has his favorites and that is that!



Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Jim-D on July 01, 2006, 04:53:54 PM
I know but we can dream


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Jim-D on July 01, 2006, 05:05:24 PM
Seems as though dreams can come true!!


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 05:12:44 PM
Shall we go straight to penalties to spare us the agony ?


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Jim-D on July 01, 2006, 05:14:31 PM
LENNON!!!!!!


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Jim-D on July 01, 2006, 05:17:27 PM
BOLLOCKS!!!!


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Gryff on July 01, 2006, 05:19:24 PM
Argentinian Referee :-[
11.5 vs 11



Argentinians eh... bad fucking losers.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 05:22:08 PM
England vs Brazil in the semi final

Crouch and Walcott vs Ronaldo and Andriano

rotflmfao


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Acidmouse on July 01, 2006, 05:23:07 PM
You mean you cant stamp on someone bollocks and get away with it? lol


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 05:23:44 PM
England vs Brazil in the semi final

Crouch and Walcott vs Ronaldo and Andriano

rotflmfao

Hope you're right


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 05:48:17 PM
Hargreaves has silenced a few doubters today, he's been fantastic.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 05:49:31 PM
Hargreaves has silenced a few doubters today, he's been fantastic.

Yep, he has played great.



Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: sharpy on July 01, 2006, 05:55:32 PM


  Don't care about the result now but England have stood up since Rooney got sent off.

  Each player can hold their heads up with pride.....just a shame it took a sending off to show the world what we're about


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 05:56:31 PM
This may be academic, but is Rooney banned for one game or three ?


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: I, Zimbra on July 01, 2006, 05:56:57 PM
Incredible, it took Beckham getting injured and Rooney sent off to get England to start playing some good football at this World Cup.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 05:57:47 PM
This may be academic, but is Rooney banned for one game or three ?

1 if it isn't reviewed, but it could rise like the Italian players suspension.

Crouch has played brilliant, even better than Rooney.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 05:58:48 PM
Incredible, it took Beckham getting injured and Rooney sent off to get England to start playing some good football at this World Cup.


Not a coincidence imo that the injection of pace(Lennon) for Beckham had a big influence.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: sharpy on July 01, 2006, 06:28:26 PM

    BELIEVE!
    BELIEVE!
    BELIEVE!
    BELIEVE!


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: sharpy on July 01, 2006, 06:29:52 PM


  Did I spell that right? :dontask:


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:30:26 PM
Use the spell checker ::)


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: sharpy on July 01, 2006, 06:32:10 PM


  Being a Pompey supporter you get use to this sort of thing


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 06:33:32 PM
Damn, lost the toss


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:35:56 PM
Fat Frank to the rescue ::)


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: I, Zimbra on July 01, 2006, 06:36:38 PM
Story of Franks' WC... he can't hit anything.... :(


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 06:37:08 PM
Viana showed his spurs err Newcasstle form at last


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:37:46 PM
Especially as he is a Newcastle player


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 06:38:31 PM
Magnetic post woohoo


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:39:16 PM
This is really, REALLY sick


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:41:16 PM
What a joke.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Karabiner on July 01, 2006, 06:42:01 PM
1/4 uggh


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:42:47 PM
So disappointed


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:43:37 PM
Can't even score some penalties


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Sark79 on July 01, 2006, 06:45:23 PM
I feel bad for them.   Bad luck.   


Would they have done it with 11 men?    Portugal seem like another team with 11 actors. I hate all the diving and play acting that they use.  Ronaldo is one of the worst at that.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:46:52 PM
Millionaire grown men crying...


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: lvlarc_uk on July 01, 2006, 06:48:10 PM
Too bad but it was written in the stars. Both teams played like amateurs today, unlucky  :-X


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: CelticGeezeer on July 01, 2006, 06:48:24 PM
You should come to Coventry the poor ones are crying too.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: I, Zimbra on July 01, 2006, 06:50:50 PM
Would they have done it with 11 men?   
Difficult to say, because they only lifted their game when they were down to ten men.

If they'd played the way they'd played with 10, when they actually had 11, they should have gone through.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:51:39 PM
I blame the manager. 100%

I have supported him previously, but bringing Owen and Rooney and trying to rely on them, was very poor management.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Sark79 on July 01, 2006, 06:52:32 PM
You have to agree that Ronaldo is a prat  :D


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: sharpy on July 01, 2006, 06:53:03 PM

  To be fair we didn't look like a world cup winning side until we went down to 10 men,and like nemesis said, a semi-final with a strike force of Crouch/Walcott we wouldn't have posed to much of a threat to Brazil/France.

  So go out with a roar like we did proberbly saved another 90/120 mins of angst on wednesday.

  Sven has left the building.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Acidmouse on July 01, 2006, 06:55:56 PM
lol Shearers comments after game. Saying he wouldnt blame Rooney for twatting Ronaldo when he gets back to Man Utd...had me in stitches.

They didnt hold back on laying down the smack on the manager taking the blame.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 06:58:33 PM
They didnt hold back on laying down the smack on the manager taking the blame.

Ian Wright usually talks bollocks, but he is spot on with the manager. Sven is on £5million a year, and it is an absolute disgrace!


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 07:06:10 PM
Everyone is raving about how good their keeper was at saving the penalties, but he was a least a yard off of his line for 4/5 penalties.


Clutching at straws : Yes.

Great officiating : No


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: lvlarc_uk on July 01, 2006, 07:06:51 PM
To be fair though, the whole side were playing like amateurs, what's with all the long balls that never get through. Regardless of Manager, they had no chance in hell of beating the top teams, Germany, Brazil, France or Italy. Infact they had quite an easy draw, first time they come up against a solid team like Portugal & they play pathetic.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on July 01, 2006, 07:08:38 PM
Positives we can take from the World Cup:

Aaron Lennon
Owen Hargreaves (never thought I'd say that)
No more Sven

Negatives:

Everything else


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: The Baron on July 01, 2006, 07:13:58 PM
I'm not sure why England didn't take more strikers.

I have no idea why Beckham is still picked.

I'm lost as to why Carragher changed which side he put his penalty.

I'm baffled as to how Ronaldo thinks he's going to survive next season in England. (see that wink after the Rooney red card?)

I'm absolutely baffled by Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard.

For a world class midfield we were pants 5 times. There is no excuse. Simple as that really.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Acidmouse on July 01, 2006, 07:28:29 PM
Positives we can take from the World Cup:

Aaron Lennon
Owen Hargreaves (never thought I'd say that)
No more Sven

Negatives:

Everything else


 :goodpost:


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 01, 2006, 07:38:29 PM
I tried not  rotflmfao rotflmfao  at the penalties but I couldn't help it.

Now for a few serious points:

Ronaldo is a twat, and I wouldn't blame Rooney or Neville for hitting him when they are back at OT.

Secondly, What I dont understand is this, and Shearer was spot onw hen he said, Svenn didn't fancy Walcott of Crouch - if he did he would have played them.  But why when Owen was unfit and Rooney struggling did he not have more cover??

If he didn't fancy Crouch or Walcott why pick them?

Hargreaves played really well, Beckham was piss poor and that should be his last England game.  England look far better when going foward with pace and power.  That was clear to see when Lennon came on.

Rooney.  What do you say what a stupid boy.  I reckon he may well have got away for the stamping incident because it looked more like a tangle but why did he feel the need to push Ronaldo?  He should have just got up and walked away.

For whats its worth England defended well, but Portugal in my opinion where poor going foward,  I don't think they will get past Brazil.

Unlucky  :D


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: brad.strider on July 01, 2006, 07:45:51 PM
last night you just KNEW  the germans would win the shoot out, today you just KNEW england were gonna blow it, they didnt disapoint, german mentality much better!!


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 01, 2006, 07:48:18 PM
Love the Jocks giving the rub down ....  I cant believe people are biting, Just laugh them off and shrug your shoulders.

After all, Its not like we are getting stick from a country that can actually play the game.

Its like a 25 stone fat bloke shouting at an Olympic sprinter to run faster.


Title: Re: England vs Portugal
Post by: brad.strider on July 01, 2006, 07:55:43 PM
france v brazil in 5 minutes, we might see some football now after that mince today, 5 games out of 5 tottaly plss