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Title: Flopped Trips
Post by: Royal Flush on June 29, 2006, 01:12:40 AM
Ok last 35 of the Tribeca $15k g'td. I am in good shape, i have been card dead but have grown my stack through steals etc.

My oppo has seemed pretty solid, except a couple of odd hands like AT all in vs a short stack on a K748 board.... i only really noticed him in 1 pot where he doubled with top set. He since doubled again but i missed how.


Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
MTT Table 3 10102136-162 Holdem No Limit 600/1,200
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Hand Start.
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 1 : haryramsden has $54,020
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 2 : Almostskint has $13,760
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 3 : DOODGE has $42,500
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 4 : dirtle has $29,930
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 5 : edzon23 has $45,980
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has $42,470

[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 7 : ElGringoo has $6,880
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 8 : erocman has $8,340
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : haryramsden is the dealer.
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Almostskint posted small blind.
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : DOODGE posted big blind.
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Game [162] started with 8 players.
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jun 29 00:04:49] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has Qc Js
[Jun 29 00:04:52] : dirtle folded.
[Jun 29 00:04:55] : edzon23 folded.
[Jun 29 00:05:00] : Flush Royal called 1,200 and raised 1,800
[Jun 29 00:05:00] : ElGringoo folded.
[Jun 29 00:05:00] : erocman folded.
[Jun 29 00:05:09] : haryramsden folded.
[Jun 29 00:05:15] : Almostskint folded.
[Jun 29 00:05:20] : DOODGE called 1,800
[Jun 29 00:05:21] : Dealing flop.
[Jun 29 00:05:21] : Board cards [Qh 5h Qs]
[Jun 29 00:05:26] : DOODGE checked.
[Jun 29 00:05:31] : Flush Royal bet 3,000
[Jun 29 00:05:40] : DOODGE called 3,000 and raised 4,000



Whats the next action?


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: jezza777 on June 29, 2006, 02:11:49 AM
have you been very active recently? He maybe thinks that trip Q's doesnt bet here and you are stealing or he may be on the flush draw . Also you have raised pre- flop and he may read a continuation bet. 2 choices flat call and move on a non heart turn or bump it now it . I dont think he reraises with 55 or a bigger q here so probably flush draw . See the turn and pop the full pot.


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Newmanseye on June 29, 2006, 02:16:44 AM
As jezza says, if you have beeen active, he's probably going for a re-steal in his mind.  He's the big blind, so he may like to defend the, If anything, he may have a middle Pocket pair or ace 5, he's probably called your raise with half a hand and caught the 5.

hurry up with the next part.


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Royal Flush on June 29, 2006, 02:37:55 AM
Ok well i thought the same as you guys, he puts me on nowt so i flat call to keep him thinking that. Let him make a big mistake on the turn!

[Jun 29 00:05:47] : Flush Royal called 4,000
[Jun 29 00:05:48] : Dealing turn.
[Jun 29 00:05:48] : Board cards [Qh 5h Qs 8s]
[Jun 29 00:05:53] : DOODGE bet 32,500 and is All-in
[Jun 29 00:05:54] : Flush Royal called 32,470 and is All-in
[Jun 29 00:05:55] : Showdown!


Guess his hand, also anyone fold there?


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: jezza777 on June 29, 2006, 02:39:36 AM
55, q5, q8 , 88,   and no way I fold


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Royal Flush on June 29, 2006, 02:41:14 AM
55, q5, q8 , 88,   and no way I fold


Is it that obvious i lost? lol.

Yeah he had 55, i couldnt believe it! Why does he ship the turn! What is he scared off?


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Newmanseye on June 29, 2006, 02:43:21 AM
sore one mate


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: jezza777 on June 29, 2006, 02:43:51 AM
he prob thinks you must have q to call his ck raise on the flop so is charging the max for you to hit your kicker. Scardy cat I know but prob true.


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Table Manners on June 29, 2006, 03:00:12 AM
I quite like this move actually (but I'm no poker master). It risks not getting paid much for the hand if you fold, but it disguises his hand well. No one's gonna put him on the fh or even a big queen. A bet that looks that scared seems like a great way to get paid by a bare queen. Anyone else agree?


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Royal Flush on June 29, 2006, 03:03:43 AM
I quite like this move actually (but I'm no poker master). It risks not getting paid much for the hand if you fold, but it disguises his hand well. No one's gonna put him on the fh or even a big queen. A bet that looks that scared seems like a great way to get paid by a bare queen. Anyone else agree?

Well he doesnt get paid if i have JJ etc. If i have a Q he is always getting my whole stack.


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Table Manners on June 29, 2006, 03:20:17 AM
I quite like this move actually (but I'm no poker master). It risks not getting paid much for the hand if you fold, but it disguises his hand well. No one's gonna put him on the fh or even a big queen. A bet that looks that scared seems like a great way to get paid by a bare queen. Anyone else agree?

Well he doesnt get paid if i have JJ etc. If i have a Q he is always getting my whole stack.

Hmmm... I suppose I's thinking a queen rag wouldn't always lose their whole stack in this situation. If he did a pot builder on the turn, then shipped it in on the river, then the queen rag might start to think they're beat. And you effectively have Queen Rag here, given that it's unlikely he's calling your raise with a smaller queen than than QJ. But to be honest, I'm probably only ever getting away from this if I've got around 100bb's or more, and even then it's only a maybe.

If you'd had, say, 100bb's and he had you covered a) would you have lost all your chips if he had played it slower b) would you have called his (now massive) all in bet on the turn?



Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Royal Flush on June 29, 2006, 03:33:36 AM
I quite like this move actually (but I'm no poker master). It risks not getting paid much for the hand if you fold, but it disguises his hand well. No one's gonna put him on the fh or even a big queen. A bet that looks that scared seems like a great way to get paid by a bare queen. Anyone else agree?

Well he doesnt get paid if i have JJ etc. If i have a Q he is always getting my whole stack.

Hmmm... I suppose I's thinking a queen rag wouldn't always lose their whole stack in this situation. If he did a pot builder on the turn, then shipped it in on the river, then the queen rag might start to think they're beat. And you effectively have Queen Rag here, given that it's unlikely he's calling your raise with a smaller queen than than QJ. But to be honest, I'm probably only ever getting away from this if I've got around 100bb's or more, and even then it's only a maybe.

If you'd had, say, 100bb's and he had you covered a) would you have lost all your chips if he had played it slower b) would you have called his (now massive) all in bet on the turn?



If it was 100bb's then i re-raise the flop.


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Table Manners on June 29, 2006, 04:17:46 AM
I quite like this move actually (but I'm no poker master). It risks not getting paid much for the hand if you fold, but it disguises his hand well. No one's gonna put him on the fh or even a big queen. A bet that looks that scared seems like a great way to get paid by a bare queen. Anyone else agree?

Well he doesnt get paid if i have JJ etc. If i have a Q he is always getting my whole stack.

Hmmm... I suppose I's thinking a queen rag wouldn't always lose their whole stack in this situation. If he did a pot builder on the turn, then shipped it in on the river, then the queen rag might start to think they're beat. And you effectively have Queen Rag here, given that it's unlikely he's calling your raise with a smaller queen than than QJ. But to be honest, I'm probably only ever getting away from this if I've got around 100bb's or more, and even then it's only a maybe.

If you'd had, say, 100bb's and he had you covered a) would you have lost all your chips if he had played it slower b) would you have called his (now massive) all in bet on the turn?



If it was 100bb's then i re-raise the flop.

yes, i see. then you find out where you are sooner.


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Rooky9 on June 29, 2006, 01:17:56 PM
Why is the preflop raise so small?


Title: Re: Flopped Trips
Post by: Royal Flush on June 29, 2006, 03:33:40 PM
Why is the preflop raise so small?

It usually works in that either they all fold, or i get HU with 1 oppo with position and they usually just give up :D