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Title: Why did England go out?
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 01, 2006, 07:19:56 PM
Honest answers now?

<2 votes per Entrant>


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on July 01, 2006, 07:22:11 PM
You forgot Sven Goran Erikkson as an option.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
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Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 01, 2006, 07:49:05 PM
Love the Jocks giving the rub down ....  I cant believe people are biting, Just laugh them off and shrug your shoulders.

After all, Its not like we are getting stick from a country that can actually play the game.

Its like a 25 stone fat bloke shouting at an Olympic sprinter to run faster.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2006, 07:51:06 PM

Its like a 25 stone fat bloke shouting at an Olympic sprinter to run faster.

i didnt know you watched the olympics


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: brad.strider on July 01, 2006, 07:58:37 PM
Love the Jocks giving the rub down ....  I cant believe people are biting, Just laugh them off and shrug your shoulders.

After all, Its not like we are getting stick from a country that can actually play the game.

Its like a 25 stone fat bloke shouting at an Olympic sprinter to run faster.
ahh at least yous added something to the whole world cup occasion....erm wait a minute did yous feck!!


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 01, 2006, 08:02:13 PM
Love the Jocks giving the rub down ....  I cant believe people are biting, Just laugh them off and shrug your shoulders.

After all, Its not like we are getting stick from a country that can actually play the game.

Its like a 25 stone fat bloke shouting at an Olympic sprinter to run faster.

are you trying to say, im laying bait?.....Never!


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 08:12:42 PM
Add the option 'Sven Goran Eriksson' and I will vote!


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: tigscoco on July 01, 2006, 09:06:49 PM
Is that England out of the Cup??? Missed the match, and am a bit lost


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: bolt pp on July 01, 2006, 09:07:39 PM
You forgot Sven Goran Erikkson as an option.

ty


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Graham C on July 01, 2006, 09:16:28 PM
I don't see how Sven was to blame.  We can't take pens is the problem.  The first pen is the most importent and Lampard yet again missed and the rest weren't much better.

I wouldn't like to be Ronaldo if he doesn't sign for Real Madrid and the ref and cheating let us down.  If we ever play like the Portugese team played tonight, I'll be embarrassed to call myself English.



Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 09:21:06 PM
I don't see how Sven was to blame.  We can't take pens is the problem.  The first pen is the most importent and Lampard yet again missed and the rest weren't much better.

His tactics and not bringing fit Strikers are the reason I blame him.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Graham C on July 01, 2006, 09:30:57 PM
He had a fit striker on the bench - I know it wasn't too popular taking Theo in the first place, but if he's taking him, bring him on -  I guess that just justifies your arguement more (and I don't really disagree) but we lost tonight due to a dodgy ref descission and pens.  Carraghers pen should have counted - what's all this "oh I'm not ready" carp all about? 

I honestly thought tonights performance was one of the best we've seen under Svens leadership and I'm almost saddened to see him go, but that could be more nervous of the future.





Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 01, 2006, 10:10:49 PM
but we lost tonight due to a dodgy ref descission and pens.  Carraghers pen should have counted - what's all this "oh I'm not ready" carp all about? 

1:  What was the dodgy referreing decission that cost England the match?

2: The referee never blew his whistle for Carragher to take his penalty in the first place

England lost because of Svenss negative tactics and the fact they werent good enough when it mattered.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Graham C on July 01, 2006, 10:16:30 PM
1. Sending Rooney off?  Straight Red? don't think so matey.  In fact, until Ronaldo got involved the ref only gave a free kick
2. Dunno, I assumed he did.  Can't comment untill I resee it.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Nem on July 01, 2006, 10:22:25 PM
England lost because of Svenss negative tactics and the fact they werent good enough when it mattered.

nail, head, whack.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on July 01, 2006, 10:43:59 PM
I honestly thought tonights performance was one of the best we've seen under Svens leadership and I'm almost saddened to see him go, but that could be more nervous of the future.

I want some of whatever it is you've been drinking.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Graham C on July 01, 2006, 10:53:09 PM
I honestly thought tonights performance was one of the best we've seen under Svens leadership and I'm almost saddened to see him go, but that could be more nervous of the future.

I want some of whatever it is you've been drinking.

Carling, a few hours worth :D

You disagree? 



Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 01, 2006, 11:00:50 PM
1. Sending Rooney off?  Straight Red? don't think so matey.  In fact, until Ronaldo got involved the ref only gave a free kick


I don't think the ref was sending off Rooney till Ronaldo got involved and that annoyed me I said that on another thread buy Rooney lifted his hands and shoved the opponent that is a straight red card.

I dont see how it cant be?


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on July 01, 2006, 11:05:10 PM
You disagree? 

We were inept in the first half playing a formation that totally isolated our sole striker and which the team were clearly uncomfortable with.

We improved when Beckham went off injured and was replaced by Lennon.  Without the injury this substitution would never have occurred.

The only time through the entire tournament that we started to play like a team was after Rooney was sent off.  A sense of injustice among the players did more for team performance than the manager could achieve and we were aided to some extent by Scolari playing without a striker for much of the second half.

If that is one of the best performances that Eriksson 'achieved' then I don't ever want to be reminded of the worst.

Sheriff



Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: The Baron on July 01, 2006, 11:06:11 PM
1. Sending Rooney off?  Straight Red? don't think so matey.  In fact, until Ronaldo got involved the ref only gave a free kick


I don't think the ref was sending off Rooney till Ronaldo got involved and that annoyed me I said that on another thread buy Rooney lifted his hands and shoved the opponent that is a straight red card.

I dont see how it cant be?

If this is the case then surely we'd see a red card for practically every corner ever taken considering some of the stuff that goes on when jostling for position?

That push was never a red IMO. If the ref saw the stamp then fair enough.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Graham C on July 01, 2006, 11:10:57 PM
I don't see why it annoyed you.  Rooney hadn't done much wrong till Ronaldo got involved.  A player goading the ref to take further action is bad, there's no need for it, the ref had a grip on the game.


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Rooky9 on July 02, 2006, 02:25:02 AM
That game was always going to penalties, as predicted by everyone who has ever watched footballl. I would, to warrent my unbelieveably huge and grotest salary had mr i cant controll catch or pass a ball James studying every penalty ever by Portugul and also in world cups to make his size work for us... as with Germany/argentina last night we were beaten before the first kick... thou at the time I thought Hugo had done the first think worth 8.5 million.....


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 02, 2006, 11:18:42 AM
1. Sending Rooney off?  Straight Red? don't think so matey.  In fact, until Ronaldo got involved the ref only gave a free kick
2. Dunno, I assumed he did.  Can't comment untill I resee it.

did you watch the replay, he blatantly stamped on the guys Balls!


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Sark79 on July 02, 2006, 11:30:39 AM
In all the news reports that I have seen today.  None of them have mentioned Erickson taking Walcott in the first place or Rooney being sent off as possible reasons for their loss.   The reporters keep saying  " Our penalty skills just aren't good enough".  Surely if they had a decent reserve striker and a striker that doesn't get himself sent off,  there would be no need to think about shooting penalties?


Title: Re: Why did England go out?
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 02, 2006, 11:33:55 AM
  Rooney hadn't done much wrong till Ronaldo got involved. 

jesus are folk blind...ill reiterate

He stamped on the guys balls!