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Title: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: whufc65 on July 03, 2006, 03:34:28 PM
http://www.ihateronaldo.com/


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 03, 2006, 03:51:26 PM
come on guys, whats up with winking.

How do you know that Big Phil didnt signal to Ronaldo to up the tempo and push forward more since england were down to 10 men, and Ronaldo just signalled back (with a wink) saying "No problem boss"

The bottom line is, if you stanp in someones balls, you deserve to be sent off, i also dont think it helped his case to push Ronaldo away right in front of the refs face.

Rooney is an outstanding player and could be one of the worlds greats, but he first has to grow up, and learn to screw the nut, What Tighty said yesterday about him and his age / mentality was spot on.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: matt674 on July 03, 2006, 03:57:19 PM
So it was Ronaldo's fault that England were inept in all 5 games of the world cup? Was it Ronaldo's fault that England's manager had the tactical awareness of a sleeping sloth (apologies to any sloth's reading this post who may take offence)

No it wasn't. England actually looked and played better after Rooney got sent off - maybe Ronaldo did them a favour, they may have won the game in 90 minutes had England kept 11 players on the pitch..........


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Jim-D on July 03, 2006, 04:05:37 PM
I personally think this vendetta against Ronaldo is a bit OTT,  He wasnt waveing imagionary cards which i bloody hate,  And like Dave says no one knows what that wink was all about.

Yes I dont like his reaction but it aint worth all this over hype IMO


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on July 03, 2006, 06:35:21 PM
So it was Ronaldo's fault that England were inept in all 5 games of the world cup? Was it Ronaldo's fault that England's manager had the tactical awareness of a sleeping sloth (apologies to any sloth's reading this post who may take offence)

No it wasn't. England actually looked and played better after Rooney got sent off - maybe Ronaldo did them a favour, they may have won the game in 90 minutes had England kept 11 players on the pitch..........

apology accepted, no offence caused!


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: thetank on July 03, 2006, 07:52:38 PM
It's a sport, there was a bit of gamesmanship, Ronaldo perhaps exposing a weak spot in his counterpart, his fiery young temper.

Reading the papers today, I find the prospect that they can no longer play on the same team completely ridiculous.

One perhaps played the other like a two dollar banjo. Hopefully Roonie can learn from this and go on to greater things.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: matt674 on July 03, 2006, 08:20:42 PM
So it was Ronaldo's fault that England were inept in all 5 games of the world cup? Was it Ronaldo's fault that England's manager had the tactical awareness of a sleeping sloth (apologies to any sloth's reading this post who may take offence)

No it wasn't. England actually looked and played better after Rooney got sent off - maybe Ronaldo did them a favour, they may have won the game in 90 minutes had England kept 11 players on the pitch..........

apology accepted, no offence caused!

As long as i didnt wake you up ;)


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Royal Flush on July 03, 2006, 09:12:46 PM
Crikey, lets hang him. His team mate was stamped on and he had something to say about it!

Has no-one on this board ever played a competitive team sport?!?!

As for the wink, evreytime a player gets sent off the opposing team always cheer, or congratulate the ref, etc. This is far worse IMO.

Teams are happy when they get penaltys, i suppose that is bad aswell?


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 03, 2006, 09:18:43 PM
Crikey, lets hang him. His team mate was stamped on and he had something to say about it!

Has no-one on this board ever played a competitive team sport?!?!

As for the wink, evreytime a player gets sent off the opposing team always cheer, or congratulate the ref, etc. This is far worse IMO.

Teams are happy when they get penaltys, i suppose that is bad aswell?

The "friendly" headbutt and word in his ear before kick-off shows it was a plan to get him sent off IMO.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: brad.strider on July 03, 2006, 09:20:41 PM
i once had a t-shirt wich said "i hate mo johnston, fan club"


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Royal Flush on July 03, 2006, 09:20:54 PM
Crikey, lets hang him. His team mate was stamped on and he had something to say about it!

Has no-one on this board ever played a competitive team sport?!?!

As for the wink, evreytime a player gets sent off the opposing team always cheer, or congratulate the ref, etc. This is far worse IMO.

Teams are happy when they get penaltys, i suppose that is bad aswell?

The "friendly" headbutt and word in his ear before kick-off shows it was a plan to get him sent off IMO.

What was that between Gattuso and Lippi then!?


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 03, 2006, 09:21:41 PM
Crikey, lets hang him. His team mate was stamped on and he had something to say about it!

Has no-one on this board ever played a competitive team sport?!?!

As for the wink, evreytime a player gets sent off the opposing team always cheer, or congratulate the ref, etc. This is far worse IMO.

Teams are happy when they get penaltys, i suppose that is bad aswell?

The "friendly" headbutt and word in his ear before kick-off shows it was a plan to get him sent off IMO.

What was that between Gattuso and Lippi then!?

LOL true but they are at least on the same side!


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Jim-D on July 03, 2006, 09:23:28 PM
Crikey, lets hang him. His team mate was stamped on and he had something to say about it!

Has no-one on this board ever played a competitive team sport?!?!

As for the wink, evreytime a player gets sent off the opposing team always cheer, or congratulate the ref, etc. This is far worse IMO.

Teams are happy when they get penaltys, i suppose that is bad aswell?

 :goodpost: ;iagree;


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Royal Flush on July 03, 2006, 09:28:52 PM
Baron the truth is we don't know what that was about before the game started. I can't see Portugal plotted to get Rooney sent off, if this was the case they would have been smacking him about. The 2 clearly know eachother well and are team mates, a little push before the game has started is almost certainley just competitive banter. They know they are both carrying the expectations of thier country as the top players from each team, i find it far more likely it was friendly.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 03, 2006, 09:47:02 PM
Baron the truth is we don't know what that was about before the game started. I can't see Portugal plotted to get Rooney sent off, if this was the case they would have been smacking him about. The 2 clearly know eachother well and are team mates, a little push before the game has started is almost certainley just competitive banter. They know they are both carrying the expectations of thier country as the top players from each team, i find it far more likely it was friendly.

Even now knowing he is leaving Man Utd? Amazing how he only comfirmed this after the game two days after Ferguson issues a denial!


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Royal Flush on July 03, 2006, 10:01:12 PM
Baron the truth is we don't know what that was about before the game started. I can't see Portugal plotted to get Rooney sent off, if this was the case they would have been smacking him about. The 2 clearly know eachother well and are team mates, a little push before the game has started is almost certainley just competitive banter. They know they are both carrying the expectations of thier country as the top players from each team, i find it far more likely it was friendly.

Even now knowing he is leaving Man Utd? Amazing how he only comfirmed this after the game two days after Ferguson issues a denial!

Just because he is leaving doesnt mean he dislikes Rooney!


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Graham C on July 03, 2006, 10:06:35 PM

 if you stanp in someones balls, you deserve to be sent off,

lol that's about right :D

the line just amused me :)


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Graham C on July 03, 2006, 10:10:17 PM
the only thing that bothers me is that until Ronaldo went over, the ref had only given a free kick to Portugal.  Yes, it looks like Rooney stepped on his goolies, but a free kick was given.  It was only after the push that the card was shown.


Anyway, I'm over it now  8)


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: matt674 on July 04, 2006, 07:13:07 AM
the only thing that bothers me is that until Ronaldo went over, the ref had only given a free kick to Portugal.  Yes, it looks like Rooney stepped on his goolies, but a free kick was given.  It was only after the push that the card was shown.


Anyway, I'm over it now  8)

The referee confirmed that the sending off was for the push but at the end of the day Ronaldo didnt do anything that was against the rules, if he would have run over waiving his hand as if to say "show him the card" then yes he broke the rules but he didnt.

When you are playing poker against someone who you know tilts easily, what do you do? You try everything possible WITHIN THE RULES to get the guy to tilt - because as soon as he does you know he/she will start making mistakes and that will be the time that you could profit most from his mistakes.

All Ronaldo did was put Rooney on tilt - and lets face it, that isnt really difficult to do given his track record.........


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 04, 2006, 01:43:58 PM
the only thing that bothers me is that until Ronaldo went over, the ref had only given a free kick to Portugal.  Yes, it looks like Rooney stepped on his goolies, but a free kick was given.  It was only after the push that the card was shown.


Anyway, I'm over it now  8)

The referee confirmed that the sending off was for the push but at the end of the day Ronaldo didnt do anything that was against the rules, if he would have run over waiving his hand as if to say "show him the card" then yes he broke the rules but he didnt.

When you are playing poker against someone who you know tilts easily, what do you do? You try everything possible WITHIN THE RULES to get the guy to tilt - because as soon as he does you know he/she will start making mistakes and that will be the time that you could profit most from his mistakes.

All Ronaldo did was put Rooney on tilt - and lets face it, that isnt really difficult to do given his track record.........

This isn't poker.

Rooney and Ronaldo are paid for their living by their club NOT their country. In most of our opinions it is unsporting behaviour to do this to a player let alone your own teammate.

Tilting is part of the game in poker but it's ungentlemanly in football.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: thetank on July 04, 2006, 02:17:58 PM
What a load of trite. They were not teammates when this occured.

I checked again on the news and they were wearing different jerseys. One played for England, the other for Portugal.

What's more ungentlemanly? Winking and goading, or standing on someones doodahs and giving them a shove.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 04, 2006, 02:26:37 PM
What a load of trite. They were not teammates when this occured.

I checked again on the news and they were wearing different jerseys. One played for England, the other for Portugal.

What's more ungentlemanly? Winking and goading, or standing on someones doodahs and giving them a shove.

I completely agree Rooney should have been sent off but that is NOT the issue here. The issue is Ronaldo. What he did is ungentlemanly. The fact that Rooney was sent off for an awful offence is by the by, it does not make Ronaldo innocent one iota.

As for them wearing different Jerseys this is true. There are limits though. Gerrard and Rooney played for seperate halves of Liverpool where the rivalry is fierce. You wouldn't see either acting like Ronaldo. Sorry but I dont buy the "different shirts" excuse for his actions one bit.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 04, 2006, 02:37:47 PM
the only thing that bothers me is that until Ronaldo went over, the ref had only given a free kick to Portugal.  Yes, it looks like Rooney stepped on his goolies, but a free kick was given.  It was only after the push that the card was shown.


Anyway, I'm over it now  8)

The referee confirmed that the sending off was for the push but at the end of the day Ronaldo didnt do anything that was against the rules, if he would have run over waiving his hand as if to say "show him the card" then yes he broke the rules but he didnt.

When you are playing poker against someone who you know tilts easily, what do you do? You try everything possible WITHIN THE RULES to get the guy to tilt - because as soon as he does you know he/she will start making mistakes and that will be the time that you could profit most from his mistakes.

All Ronaldo did was put Rooney on tilt - and lets face it, that isnt really difficult to do given his track record.........

This isn't poker.

Rooney and Ronaldo are paid for their living by their club NOT their country. In most of our opinions it is unsporting behaviour to do this to a player let alone your own teammate.

Tilting is part of the game in poker but it's ungentlemanly in football.

Sorry Baron I totally disagree. The incident before the game - we'd need to ask the players.

Complaining that someone just stamped on your team-mates nuts? Ungentlemanly? NO WAY.

Colin Cameron (was at wolves) is considered scum by Celtic fans for defending Ganea (his club teammate) of Romania, after he crippled a young Celtic Player with an over the ball tackle. (Kennedy hasn't played since). I don't give a toss whether they played for the same club, I couldn't care less whether Ganea was godfather to his weans... he watched a player cripple a youngster and then tried to defend him.

Now Ronaldo DID NOT wave an imaginary card, he just ran up (like most England players would) and complained that his team-mate had been assaulted. Rooney then shoved Ronaldo, he didn't go down (he didn't even acknowledge it) - if he was just out to 'cheat' Rooney off the park he'd have hit the deck.

Sorry - Ronaldo's done nothing wrong. And the pundits who showed themselves to be hypocrites, followed by a press who were looking for scapegoats do England no favours either.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Graham C on July 04, 2006, 02:39:18 PM
the stamp by Rooney was an accident.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: matt674 on July 04, 2006, 02:40:02 PM
Which is why he was sent off for the push rather than the stamp


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 04, 2006, 02:43:56 PM
Rod, good post but I dont buy the "all he did was defend his team mate" one bit.

The pre match wind up, the winking, the admission of wanting to leave England - that's not defending your team mate.

To me this is clear cut, he is not a good professional.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 04, 2006, 02:44:26 PM
Which is why he was sent off for the push rather than the stamp

The ref told Eriksson it was for the stamp.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Graham C on July 04, 2006, 02:45:38 PM
all of this doesn't change the fact that he's a smarmy little sh**.  Always has been, always will be in my book.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 04, 2006, 02:49:50 PM
I guess Ronaldo's middle finger to Benefica fans in the Champions League this year wasn't him inciting the bitter rivals of his ex club Sporting Lisboa?

Of course, he was trying to defend himself!


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: thetank on July 04, 2006, 02:50:20 PM

Rod, good post but I dont buy the "all he did was defend his team mate" one bit.

The pre match wind up, the winking, the admission of wanting to leave England - that's not defending your team mate.

To me this is clear cut, he is not a good professional.


There were 22 cheats on the park then.

All it was is gamesmanship. Part and parcel of football today. Ronaldo is just rather good at it.

Winking is cheating when you ask multiple choice questions and wink when you read the right option. In football, it's just a bit of psyche out.

Winding up is cheating before the off at the cuckoo clock cup. In football, it's all part of big boy tennis.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: thetank on July 04, 2006, 02:53:13 PM

all of this doesn't change the fact that he's a smarmy little sh**.  Always has been, always will be in my book.


That's a fair point. He has much more smarm than most.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 04, 2006, 03:02:22 PM

Rod, good post but I dont buy the "all he did was defend his team mate" one bit.

The pre match wind up, the winking, the admission of wanting to leave England - that's not defending your team mate.

To me this is clear cut, he is not a good professional.


There were 22 cheats on the park then.


Just two IMO.

Rooney AND Ronaldo.

(Although after the Holland game you could make a case against virtually the whole of the Portugese team.)


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 04, 2006, 03:12:58 PM
Rod, good post but I dont buy the "all he did was defend his team mate" one bit.

The pre match wind up, the winking, the admission of wanting to leave England - that's not defending your team mate.

To me this is clear cut, he is not a good professional.

Right - say a German had stamped on Beckham? Would everyone be expecting Hargreaves to defend the German? Or to be complaining at the ref that his teammate was assaulted? Can you imagine the abuse Hargreaves would take if he sided with a German teammate?

Pre-match wind up - not nice, but it happens all the time.

The wink - about 2 minutes after the stamp... no-one knows what it was over apart from Ronaldo and whoever he was winking at. Seized on by moral authorites like Alan Shearer and Ian Wright, to help the agenda of blaming everything on Johnny Foreigner.

Admitting to wanting to leave... sorry? This marks someone as unproffessional? You'll want Gerard sacked then.

Seriously, the vilification of Ronaldo is well out of order. Add it to the ref who was forced into retirement after the Euro championships and we're starting to see a nasty pattern.  Time for FIFA/UEFA to put the spotlight on the English press I think.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: marcro on July 04, 2006, 03:20:42 PM
Rod, good post but I dont buy the "all he did was defend his team mate" one bit.

The pre match wind up, the winking, the admission of wanting to leave England - that's not defending your team mate.

To me this is clear cut, he is not a good professional.

Right - say a German had stamped on Beckham? Would everyone be expecting Hargreaves to defend the German? Or to be complaining at the ref that his teammate was assaulted? Can you imagine the abuse Hargreaves would take if he sided with a German teammate?

Pre-match wind up - not nice, but it happens all the time.

The wink - about 2 minutes after the stamp... no-one knows what it was over apart from Ronaldo and whoever he was winking at. Seized on by moral authorites like Alan Shearer and Ian Wright, to help the agenda of blaming everything on Johnny Foreigner.

Admitting to wanting to leave... sorry? This marks someone as unproffessional? You'll want Gerard sacked then.

Seriously, the vilification of Ronaldo is well out of order. Add it to the ref who was forced into retirement after the Euro championships and we're starting to see a nasty pattern.  Time for FIFA/UEFA to put the spotlight on the English press I think.

From what I saw I do not think that anyone can definitely say Rooney stamped on him.  This guy was sitting on the ground kicking away with Rooney in between his legs.  Pretty hard to keep your balance in such a situation and to conclusively say he deliberately stamped on his gonads is a bit of a stretch even if you do not like the England football team.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Jim-D on July 04, 2006, 03:28:10 PM
the whole situation has been blown out of proportion IMO.

 Ronaldo's part and Rooney's part  (I personally dont think it was an intentional stamp)


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 04, 2006, 03:31:54 PM


From what I saw I do not think that anyone can definitely say Rooney stamped on him.  This guy was sitting on the ground kicking away with Rooney in between his legs.  Pretty hard to keep your balance in such a situation and to conclusively say he deliberately stamped on his gonads is a bit of a stretch even if you do not like the England football team.

If you are bent forward it's highly unlikely to step back to keep your balance - you would need to step forwards.

I don't support England true, but I'm not a huge fan of the Portugese tendency to cheat either. I still think this has been seized on rather than a frank assessment of what went wrong.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Jim-D on July 04, 2006, 03:35:19 PM
Rod im worried....You seem to be talking an awfull lot of sense today :)up


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 04, 2006, 03:44:53 PM
Rod im worried....You seem to be talking an awfull lot of sense today :)up

Backhanded compliments always gratefully accepted...  ;goodvevil;


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: marcro on July 04, 2006, 03:46:50 PM


From what I saw I do not think that anyone can definitely say Rooney stamped on him.  This guy was sitting on the ground kicking away with Rooney in between his legs.  Pretty hard to keep your balance in such a situation and to conclusively say he deliberately stamped on his gonads is a bit of a stretch even if you do not like the England football team.

If you are bent forward it's highly unlikely to step back to keep your balance - you would need to step forwards.

I don't support England true, but I'm not a huge fan of the Portugese tendency to cheat either. I still think this has been seized on rather than a frank assessment of what went wrong.

I agree that this offered an easy focus point to hype up and deflect from what really went wrong which everyone knows is that Sven was not able to pick a balanced team.  However, it is a shame for any big match to see somebody sent off from either side and I am not sure that the ref would have sent Rooney off had Ronaldo not ran over and drew the shove from Rooney.  

Anyway, on a general note I think that the level of poor sportsmanship and cheating that went on in all the games was an absolute disgrace for what has been described as the beautiful game.  It is very hard for the referee to make on the spot decisions to punish this and I think the way to "stamp" it out is trial by video following the game.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Nem on July 04, 2006, 03:51:07 PM


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Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 04, 2006, 03:53:45 PM

I agree that this offered an easy focus point to hype up and deflect from what really went wrong which everyone knows is that Sven was not able to pick a balanced team.  However, it is a shame for any big match to see somebody sent off from either side and I am not sure that the ref would have sent Rooney off had Ronaldo not ran over and drew the shove from Rooney.  

Anyway, on a general note I think that the level of poor sportsmanship and cheating that went on in all the games was an absolute disgrace for what has been described as the beautiful game.  It is very hard for the referee to make on the spot decisions to punish this and I think the way to "stamp" it out is trial by video following the game.

'Drew' the shove? He didn't even look at Rooney... and there's plenty of England players who'd run to the ref in the same circumstances.

On the general note I totally agree. Feigning injury, diving, hairpulling etc - all should be punished retrospectively. My ex'es Dad always said if a player rolls over 3 or more times after a foul they should be booked, because if you are really hurt the first thing you do is stop rolling.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: thetank on July 04, 2006, 04:09:25 PM
I'm not liking that turn of phrase either - Drew the shove.

It's has connotations of excusing behaviour coz the other party was asking for it.


Did the Crystal Palace fan draw the Kung fu kick?

Tiffany fae Eastenders shouldn't have been giving Grant all that earful, but I wouldn't say she drew the shove down the stairs?







Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Gryff on July 04, 2006, 04:19:25 PM
I'd like to watch football for the football - not the attempts to win Oscar nominations.
Every dive, roll etc detracts from the game and turns people away from it.

Video referees and sinbins please so the game is actually played as intended.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 04, 2006, 05:19:17 PM
I guess Ronaldo's middle finger to Benefica fans in the Champions League this year wasn't him inciting the bitter rivals of his ex club Sporting Lisboa?

Of course, he was trying to defend himself!

Baron if were going to go by Track records:

Wayne 'the Granny hooker humping, slapping colleen in a night club infront of all his mates' Rooney is fekked!


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 04, 2006, 05:22:53 PM
Rod, good post but I dont buy the "all he did was defend his team mate" one bit.

The pre match wind up, the winking, the admission of wanting to leave England - that's not defending your team mate.

To me this is clear cut, he is not a good professional.

Right - say a German had stamped on Beckham? Would everyone be expecting Hargreaves to defend the German? Or to be complaining at the ref that his teammate was assaulted? Can you imagine the abuse Hargreaves would take if he sided with a German teammate?

Pre-match wind up - not nice, but it happens all the time.

The wink - about 2 minutes after the stamp... no-one knows what it was over apart from Ronaldo and whoever he was winking at. Seized on by moral authorites like Alan Shearer and Ian Wright, to help the agenda of blaming everything on Johnny Foreigner.

Admitting to wanting to leave... sorry? This marks someone as unproffessional? You'll want Gerard sacked then.

Seriously, the vilification of Ronaldo is well out of order. Add it to the ref who was forced into retirement after the Euro championships and we're starting to see a nasty pattern.  Time for FIFA/UEFA to put the spotlight on the English press I think.

this has got to be the post of the thread, astoundingly put IMO


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 05, 2006, 03:40:10 AM
Rod, good post but I dont buy the "all he did was defend his team mate" one bit.

The pre match wind up, the winking, the admission of wanting to leave England - that's not defending your team mate.

To me this is clear cut, he is not a good professional.

Right - say a German had stamped on Beckham? Would everyone be expecting Hargreaves to defend the German? Or to be complaining at the ref that his teammate was assaulted? Can you imagine the abuse Hargreaves would take if he sided with a German teammate?

Pre-match wind up - not nice, but it happens all the time.

The wink - about 2 minutes after the stamp... no-one knows what it was over apart from Ronaldo and whoever he was winking at. Seized on by moral authorites like Alan Shearer and Ian Wright, to help the agenda of blaming everything on Johnny Foreigner.

Admitting to wanting to leave... sorry? This marks someone as unproffessional? You'll want Gerard sacked then.

Seriously, the vilification of Ronaldo is well out of order. Add it to the ref who was forced into retirement after the Euro championships and we're starting to see a nasty pattern.  Time for FIFA/UEFA to put the spotlight on the English press I think.

Rod, we cannot seriously blame the press for a lunatic who threatens to kill a referee! The Papers writing tripe and people reacting to them by threatening to kill a ref are miles away from each other.

You could be correct about everything you say about Ronaldo but IMHO it is more likely he tried some nasty gamesmanship that went a bit too far. Just my opinion.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: The Baron on July 05, 2006, 03:43:29 AM
I guess Ronaldo's middle finger to Benefica fans in the Champions League this year wasn't him inciting the bitter rivals of his ex club Sporting Lisboa?

Of course, he was trying to defend himself!

Baron if were going to go by Track records:

Wayne 'the Granny hooker humping, slapping colleen in a night club infront of all his mates' Rooney is fekked!

As I've said before I KNOW Rooney is guilty of a sending off offence. My comment above was only to show Ronaldo's character. I agree with everything you say about Rooney.


Title: Re: I hate Ronaldo
Post by: mex on July 10, 2006, 01:26:42 AM
not bothered about the rooney incident so much, but ronaldo dived on the floor when challenged 8 times a game min, infact in one game he completed more dives than passes!! (but not poofy step overs), he waved his had in the air for bookings 4 times in the England game, apparently a yellow card offence according to Fifa, also by stepping between Rooney and The Ref after the ref had called Rooney foward ialso commited an offence.

The guys ability to to play football is marred by the fact he looks to gamesmanship more often than skill.

His career now will dive too, these falling over tendancies will go with him to his new club and he will be hated there too.