Title: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: snoopy1239 on July 06, 2006, 01:22:04 AM I've just uploaded a Simon Trumper Interview.
www.blondepoker.com (http://www.blondepoker.com) hope you find it interesting. He's very honest and wears his heart on his sleeve. Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Royal Flush on July 06, 2006, 01:38:29 AM Good article.
I liked the floating head pic: (http://www.blondepoker.com/images/uploadimages/bodyoftext/simontrumper.jpg) Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Sark79 on July 06, 2006, 09:07:02 AM Very enjoyable interview to read. Sounds like a nice bloke. n1 Snoops
What is the Barry Greenstein reference about ? Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: thetank on July 06, 2006, 09:10:18 AM What is the Barry Greenstein reference about ? They had a tiff....... "I'm fourth in chips with about $45,000 or so,'' Greenstein begins. "I hadn't been raising that many hands before the flop, and I picked up K-K-J-10, spades and clubs. A couple people limped in and I raised the pot to make it $1,650. Two people called, so the pot was a little over $5,000. I got a good flop: Q-J-6 with two spades, so I had an overpair, straight draw and the second-nut flush draw. I bet $4,500, almost the size of the pot. One guy called, Simon Trumper. Now the pot is a little under $15,000. "The turn is the ace of clubs, which gives me the nuts and the second-nut flush draw. I don't know if he's flopped a set. He checked to me on the button, and I bet $12,000. He thought for 10 seconds and called. So, at this point, he's supposed to have either the nut-flush draw or some straight draws. He doesn't know I have the absolute nuts, so he might think his straight draws are good. He probably thinks I have a set of aces or queens, unless he somehow has them. "Whatever his call is, he's probably not getting the right odds. He doesn't know I have the nuts. If he has a spade draw, I have two spades out of the deck. If he has a set, I've got one of the cards. He's probably not getting full odds for his call. "I'm hoping for a small red card that doesn't pair. But a spade comes off (on the river). Now I'm afraid he's going to bet into me if he has the nut-flush draw. But he checks. Now, my question is, should I turn over the second nuts or should I bet it? It might be right to turn it over. It's a real big pot. At this point there's $39,000 in the pot, and I've only got about $27,000 left. So, I said I'll make a big enough bet so that if he raises, he'd almost have to have the nuts. So, I grabbed some chips and bet $17,500. "And he went in the tank - this is with less than a half-hour to go in the tournament (for the night) - for way more than five minutes. People are thinking of calling the clock on him. It's the end of the night and people want to play. But he's just sitting there, sitting there, sitting there. I'm being courteous in not calling the clock on him. He's looking at me, he's looking at people. Everyone's waiting for him to act. People want him to do something. "Finally, after 10 minutes, he says, "OK, I raise.'' My last $8,000 or $9,000. At this point, I'm saying the raise only makes sense if he's got the nuts, because I've represented a strong hand. I thought I was beat, but I looked at what I had left and it wouldn't be much if I fold, and it's going to be a pot of $90,000 or so.'' At this point. Greenstein says he's pretty sure he beaten, but he has a specific reason for not wanting to fold: He wanted to confirm that Trumper would sit there for that long - look, three minutes of indecision at a poker table seems like forever --and waste everyone's time when he was holding the nuts all along and not trying to run a bluff with, say, a lower flush than Greenstein held. "I said I would hate to condemn someone to be a (naughty word) for taking 10 minutes of everyone's time at the end of the night and somehow be mistaken,'' Greenstein said. "So, I called. Of course he had the nuts. "That's something that real poker players would never do, because then you get everyone doing stuff like that. It's kind of an accepted thing that you don't cheat, you don't certain things, because if some people do it, then everyone now feels they're forced to combat it by doing the same type of thing. You don't slow-roll because then everyone else slow-rolls. "But when you play in tournaments, you play with people who really don't have a concept of this. I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of these people. These people should be, frankly, eliminated from the sport, so we would have a cleaner sport. People like this shouldn't be allowed to play. That's how severe it is. These are the same types of people who, when they go to a new table and see it's their big blind, they walk to a different table so they don't have to take the big blind. It's this type of behavior that, frankly, shouldn't be allowed. These people aren't real poker players, is all I can say about it. Very irritating to deal with people like that. "I got up and left. Everyone at the table looked at me like they knew what a jerk he was. Now, when I talk to people - I'm letting people know this is what this guy does; it's important to get the word out when people do stuff like this - and what I've gotten from people is, 'Everyone knows he's a (naughty word). You just didn't know.' His name is Simon 'Aces' Trumper and apparently he has a website. "Ten minutes isn't what was necessary. He could've taken 15 seconds to give a hint of doubt to me about whether he did have the nuts. There's poker; I understand it. But there's a certain amount of time that's right and certain amount of time that's wrong. No good players would ever do anything like this.'' But wait. It gets worse. "Even when he turned his hand over,'' Greenstein said, "he turned over the 8 of spades, and then the ace of spades. He slow-rolled his hand.'' Greenstein was so worked up a day later, poker pro Thor Hansen said, that he marched over the to area where Trumper was playing the in the Pot Limit Omaha event and told him to his face that he should be thrown out. "I've known Barry 11 years,'' Hansen said, "and I've never seen him like that.'' Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Sark79 on July 06, 2006, 09:17:37 AM Thanks tank, where did you get that from or was that done from memory? :D
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: thetank on July 06, 2006, 09:22:15 AM lol, it was from a search on blonde for "Barry Greenstein"
It was in the middle of a thread, rather than at the start. So I thought it'd be better to copy and paste the whole thing, rather than just the link. Didn't want you searching all morning, there's pipes want mending. :D Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Sark79 on July 06, 2006, 09:24:20 AM :D ok ty
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: matt674 on July 06, 2006, 09:51:36 AM Good article. I liked the floating head pic: (http://www.blondepoker.com/images/uploadimages/bodyoftext/simontrumper.jpg) If Simon put a lightbulb in his mouth would it light up? It used to when Uncle Fester from the Addams family did it.............. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: George2Loose on June 22, 2011, 04:57:51 PM What is the Barry Greenstein reference about ? They had a tiff....... "I'm fourth in chips with about $45,000 or so,'' Greenstein begins. "I hadn't been raising that many hands before the flop, and I picked up K-K-J-10, spades and clubs. A couple people limped in and I raised the pot to make it $1,650. Two people called, so the pot was a little over $5,000. I got a good flop: Q-J-6 with two spades, so I had an overpair, straight draw and the second-nut flush draw. I bet $4,500, almost the size of the pot. One guy called, Simon Trumper. Now the pot is a little under $15,000. "The turn is the ace of clubs, which gives me the nuts and the second-nut flush draw. I don't know if he's flopped a set. He checked to me on the button, and I bet $12,000. He thought for 10 seconds and called. So, at this point, he's supposed to have either the nut-flush draw or some straight draws. He doesn't know I have the absolute nuts, so he might think his straight draws are good. He probably thinks I have a set of aces or queens, unless he somehow has them. "Whatever his call is, he's probably not getting the right odds. He doesn't know I have the nuts. If he has a spade draw, I have two spades out of the deck. If he has a set, I've got one of the cards. He's probably not getting full odds for his call. "I'm hoping for a small red card that doesn't pair. But a spade comes off (on the river). Now I'm afraid he's going to bet into me if he has the nut-flush draw. But he checks. Now, my question is, should I turn over the second nuts or should I bet it? It might be right to turn it over. It's a real big pot. At this point there's $39,000 in the pot, and I've only got about $27,000 left. So, I said I'll make a big enough bet so that if he raises, he'd almost have to have the nuts. So, I grabbed some chips and bet $17,500. "And he went in the tank - this is with less than a half-hour to go in the tournament (for the night) - for way more than five minutes. People are thinking of calling the clock on him. It's the end of the night and people want to play. But he's just sitting there, sitting there, sitting there. I'm being courteous in not calling the clock on him. He's looking at me, he's looking at people. Everyone's waiting for him to act. People want him to do something. "Finally, after 10 minutes, he says, "OK, I raise.'' My last $8,000 or $9,000. At this point, I'm saying the raise only makes sense if he's got the nuts, because I've represented a strong hand. I thought I was beat, but I looked at what I had left and it wouldn't be much if I fold, and it's going to be a pot of $90,000 or so.'' At this point. Greenstein says he's pretty sure he beaten, but he has a specific reason for not wanting to fold: He wanted to confirm that Trumper would sit there for that long - look, three minutes of indecision at a poker table seems like forever --and waste everyone's time when he was holding the nuts all along and not trying to run a bluff with, say, a lower flush than Greenstein held. "I said I would hate to condemn someone to be a (naughty word) for taking 10 minutes of everyone's time at the end of the night and somehow be mistaken,'' Greenstein said. "So, I called. Of course he had the nuts. "That's something that real poker players would never do, because then you get everyone doing stuff like that. It's kind of an accepted thing that you don't cheat, you don't certain things, because if some people do it, then everyone now feels they're forced to combat it by doing the same type of thing. You don't slow-roll because then everyone else slow-rolls. "But when you play in tournaments, you play with people who really don't have a concept of this. I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of these people. These people should be, frankly, eliminated from the sport, so we would have a cleaner sport. People like this shouldn't be allowed to play. That's how severe it is. These are the same types of people who, when they go to a new table and see it's their big blind, they walk to a different table so they don't have to take the big blind. It's this type of behavior that, frankly, shouldn't be allowed. These people aren't real poker players, is all I can say about it. Very irritating to deal with people like that. "I got up and left. Everyone at the table looked at me like they knew what a jerk he was. Now, when I talk to people - I'm letting people know this is what this guy does; it's important to get the word out when people do stuff like this - and what I've gotten from people is, 'Everyone knows he's a (naughty word). You just didn't know.' His name is Simon 'Aces' Trumper and apparently he has a website. "Ten minutes isn't what was necessary. He could've taken 15 seconds to give a hint of doubt to me about whether he did have the nuts. There's poker; I understand it. But there's a certain amount of time that's right and certain amount of time that's wrong. No good players would ever do anything like this.'' But wait. It gets worse. "Even when he turned his hand over,'' Greenstein said, "he turned over the 8 of spades, and then the ace of spades. He slow-rolled his hand.'' Greenstein was so worked up a day later, poker pro Thor Hansen said, that he marched over the to area where Trumper was playing the in the Pot Limit Omaha event and told him to his face that he should be thrown out. "I've known Barry 11 years,'' Hansen said, "and I've never seen him like that.'' Did he sign a book for you Simon? Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: TightEnd on June 22, 2011, 05:00:18 PM Note to amateur journalists
This is a bump of a 5 year old thread, for reasons unknown Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: millidonk on June 22, 2011, 05:05:19 PM Loving the recent bumpage craze. Keep it going.
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: MC on June 22, 2011, 05:10:19 PM Brutal
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: George2Loose on June 22, 2011, 05:22:49 PM Is s reason. Pretty sure this was the first thread I read on blonde
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: pleno1 on June 22, 2011, 05:33:44 PM rofl at did he sign a book :D:D:D:DD::D:D:D:D
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: GreekStein on June 22, 2011, 05:46:38 PM Lol awesome.
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: smashedagain on June 22, 2011, 06:48:35 PM wow would love simon to come on here and give his thoughts. i have been in barrys position before. what you have to do is out the villan before you make the call. that way it does not look like sour grapes. i only do it if i can afford to tho and generally do it when people are hollywooding with aces
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Junior Senior on June 22, 2011, 07:22:10 PM Slow rolls FTW! So fckin what!!
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: outragous76 on June 22, 2011, 08:23:47 PM Slow rolls FTW! So fckin what!! to quote barry G "its a ***** trick" Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Boba Fett on June 23, 2011, 12:35:33 AM Was he really gonna bet/fold 17.5k from a 27k stack into 38k pot with the 2nd nuts only to change his mind due to the tank?
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: DTD-ACES on June 23, 2011, 02:08:57 AM wow would love simon to come on here and give his thoughts. i have been in barrys position before. what you have to do is out the villan before you make the call. that way it does not look like sour grapes. i only do it if i can afford to tho and generally do it when people are hollywooding with aces The guy that wrote the article without verifying it called me at Bellagio to apologise and ask me to give him an interview explaining what really happened. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?columnist=rosenbloom_steve&id=2100457 Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: outragous76 on June 23, 2011, 08:52:06 AM Nice read
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: smashedagain on June 23, 2011, 02:40:35 PM great you were given the chance to put the story right and were sat with the same players the next day. wonder if BG ever said sorry?
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Coggy on June 23, 2011, 02:47:17 PM Good read that
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: MC on June 23, 2011, 08:22:03 PM Perhaps not so brutal :)
Interesting reading these articles from 2005 Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: sovietsong on June 23, 2011, 09:23:44 PM I love all the bumpage!!
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: BAM on June 23, 2011, 09:39:02 PM Sick life for Europe's No.1 in 2005
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: highmile on June 23, 2011, 11:07:19 PM Having sat with |Mr Trumper at a table around this time I can fully understand why Greenstein thought 3 minutes felt like 10!
Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: DTD-ACES on June 24, 2011, 12:05:01 AM Having sat with |Mr Trumper at a table around this time I can fully understand why Greenstein thought 3 minutes felt like 10! LOL Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: smashedagain on June 24, 2011, 11:11:17 AM Having sat with |Mr Trumper at a table around this time I can fully understand why Greenstein thought 3 minutes felt like 10! LOL Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: GreekStein on June 24, 2011, 11:14:10 AM When did you sit next to him jase? In marrakech?
Did you give your wife 50% of what you won that day? Was the result recorded on any online databases? Did you mock an internet kid who will never be out of makeup? Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: millidonk on June 24, 2011, 11:15:13 AM When did you sit next to him jase? In marrakech? Did you give your wife 50% of what you won that day? Was the result recorded on any online databases? Did you mock an internet kid who will never be out of makeup? Did you get married in Vegas? Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: smashedagain on June 24, 2011, 11:24:16 AM When did you sit next to him jase? In marrakech? Did you give your wife 50% of what you won that day? Was the result recorded on any online databases? Did you mock an internet kid who will never be out of makeup? Did you get married in Vegas? Title: Re: Simon Trumper Interview Post by: Lucky on June 24, 2011, 12:21:46 PM Note to amateur journalists This is a bump of a 5 year old thread, for reasons unknown Lol |