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Title: trapped or could i have got away Post by: Watertight on July 11, 2006, 02:06:57 AM PokerStars Game #5518384509: Tournament #27890198, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/07/10 - 20:54:41 (ET)Table '27890198 1' 9-max Seat
#4 is the button Seat 1: Pr3ppy87 (2860 in chips) Seat 2: BernsZ623 (5015 in chips) Seat 4: demogi (2080 in chips) Seat 7: Abysmal (3545 in chips) Abysmal: posts small blind 100Pr3ppy87: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Pr3ppy87 [Kc Ks] BernsZ623: folds demogi: folds Abysmal: calls 100Pr3ppy87: checks *** FLOP *** [Js Th Kd]Abysmal: checks Pr3ppy87: checks *** TURN *** [Js Th Kd] [6s]Abysmal: checks Pr3ppy87: checks *** RIVER *** [Js Th Kd 6s] [5h]Abysmal: bets 400 Pr3ppy87: raises 600 to 1000 Abysmal: raises 2345 to 3345 and is all-in Pr3ppy87: calls 1660 and is all-in *** SHOW DOWN ***Abysmal: shows [Ah Qh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)Pr3ppy87: shows [Kc Ks] (three of a kind, Kings) Abysmal collected 5720 from pot. Was i over ambitious with my re raise on the river or was i just trapped ? i did think about the possibility of the AQ and as i write this and reflect i maybe should have thought a little longer than my 4 seconds to call his raise all in. Title: Re: trapped or could i have got away Post by: Royal Flush on July 11, 2006, 02:10:39 AM Why no raise pre flop?
Why no flop bet? Why no turn bet? Title: Re: trapped or could i have got away Post by: Watertight on July 11, 2006, 02:21:28 AM Why no raise pre flop? Why no flop bet? Why no turn bet? 1) No raise pre flop as i thought that any kind of raise would result in a fold. At the time. 2) Same reason as above id hit my nuts and just a pre flop call from him a number of different hands that fold to any form of bet on the flop, kind of wanted to extract as many chips as possible. As i look at this more maybe i didnt consider what his check on the flop meant. 3) A bet on the turn was probably the best move and probably where i make the mistake, however if i bet into this pot i either get a re raise all in or a smooth call either way my chips go in on the river . This may just be tiredness or a rooky kind of error , will have a look again in the morning see if i can make any more sense of it. or have a different outlook on the play Title: Re: trapped or could i have got away Post by: Dale on July 11, 2006, 05:31:44 AM I raise to 500/600 preflop and push on that flop regardless of what he does.
Title: Re: trapped or could i have got away Post by: boldie on July 11, 2006, 11:44:18 AM I raise to 500/600 preflop and push on that flop regardless of what he does. yeah....i see a lot of people slow playing kings and I don't like it...well not always. I understand not raising pre flop....but not to do it after the flop with a straightdraw out there? You might have hit your nuts but you didn't have THE nuts and that's what counts.. I always raise to see whether someone is actually holding the flush or straight...you have to ask the question. And you're better off winning a small pot then losing a big one. Title: Re: trapped or could i have got away Post by: turny on July 11, 2006, 02:12:04 PM looks to me like no information bets at all on the way.
your flat call preflop means he could have anything whereas if he called a raise preflop the possibility of him having AQ are higher. bet the flop to find out where you are on this type of flop. obviously a king with 2 non scare cards you try to trap but with big straight possibilities you need information. obviously again a pre flop raise wouldve made u more weary of this flop. as soon as he called my flop bet id be more cautious.probably check the turn or check \ call if he bets hoping i house. and i defo dont reraise the river but yes i call and pay him off. |