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Title: Alton Towers
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on July 14, 2006, 07:41:04 PM
I would like to bring it to your attention that on Sunday September 17th Alton Towers will be closed to everyone apart from Muslims.

Alton Towers staff will ensure there is no music, the bars will be closed and the entire park will adhere to Sharia Law. This of course is racist and discriminatory against the rest of the citizens of Britain.

Yes this is a private and corporate event but it is a case of exclusion for Britons on our own soil.

Could you imagine if I approached Tussauds (Alton Towers) with a view to making a corporate booking where Muslims were unwelcome then they would almost certainly refuse my business as they would be terrified of being branded as "corporate racists".

I cannot understand how this booking was made or even considered myself?! What if the shoe were on the other foot? Im pretty sure there would be protests all over the show!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 07:46:14 PM
Presumably it has been booked out for a private function?  Therefore the public aren't allowed in - nothing unusual there.  Who cares what religion/colour etc the people attending the function are - presumably Alton Towers can book themselves out for exclusive use to anyone they like?

It's not a case of non muslims being 'unwelcome', just those that aren't invited to the function.

If Madame Tussaudes made a corporate booking for a company which happened not to employ any Muslims, you could equally say Muslims would be unwelcome, but that's not quite the case is it?  Anyway, I'm sure we wouldn't even hear about it!

Sorry if this is a bit of a disjointed post, but reading stuff like this really gets me wound up.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Gryff on July 14, 2006, 07:52:01 PM
Off to my local mosque tomorrow to get my muslim card, a free day out at alton towers? bargain!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 07:53:06 PM
Off to my local mosque tomorrow to get my muslim card, a free day out at alton towers? bargain!

that's just the point - muslim or not you still won't get in if you're not part of the private group!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 07:54:35 PM
 its a "muslim integration day" to help muslims integrate into British society (be seperating themselves from it  >:?)

Alton Towers are helping them to do this by:

Allowing only women OR men onto the rides at any one time, in strict rotation.
Closing all bars and clubs within the theme park for that day.
Requiring that any female theme park patron wear appropriate dress, keeping all parts of body except the face covered up. The face rule was relaxed as many muslims in Britain do not cover their faces anyway.

Now, there happens to be a wedding booked in the alton towers hotel this very same day, that was booked a couple of years ago. The weding party has been told it must adhere to these rules or change their booking.

edited: removed the words "its not a private booking and corrected the spelling of integration


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Sark79 on July 14, 2006, 08:00:28 PM
I don't agree with things like this.  This is another small example of something which only adds to the growing divide between people in this country.  The World is becoming a crazy place and it is only going to get worse.  I am afraid to think what Britain will be like in twenty years time.  There should be no individual rules/laws/practices for groups in this country, we should all abide by one set of rules.

Why does religion always have to come into everything?   If you watch the average news show, over half the stories will be related to religion.  In recent times this has been mostly directed at Muslims. 

If they did away with things like this, we may be able to live in harmony one day.  I feel if they don't, the growing problems Britons are experiencing are only going to get worse.  In the 21st Century you would think two groups could coexist.  It seems like both groups almost want there to be problems


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Newmanseye on July 14, 2006, 08:00:44 PM
This seems to be getting a bit close to the bone, As claw rightly says, this is a private function, in a similar way to a company renting a hotel out for a full corporate function.

An example would be if a company like "corporate Express" rents out Alton towers, as they did recently, they had Corporate express music played, banners from the company and the CE flag was flown at the gates.

As it happens the public was not permitted to use the facilities on that day and only people from the company and Tussuad's were allowed on site to use the facilities.

Just because the religion is different we should not be bitter or accuse of raceism.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 08:06:22 PM
This seems to be getting a bit close to the bone, As claw rightly says, this is a private function, in a similar way to a company renting a hotel out for a full corporate function.


Its not a private function. If you want to go, you pay the entry fee as usual. But you adhere to the rules of the day.


Crap, sorry! It is private but its double booked


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 08:09:22 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Newmanseye on July 14, 2006, 08:10:20 PM
Well if its not a private function, its certainly a chance to sample a different culture, if you decide its not the right day to visit Alton towers then fair play, dont go and go back the next day.

Its hardly a crime to try something different.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 08:13:06 PM
Just a few clippings from the news article, whose link is also included

Quote from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/12/nwedd12.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/07/12/ixuknews.html
Couple's wedding clashes with Muslim fun day
By Nigel Bunyan
(Filed: 12/07/2006)

A couple's plans for a £5,000 wedding at Alton Towers were thrown into confusion yesterday after it emerged that the theme park had double booked them with a fun day for 20,000 Muslims.

Amanda Morris, 30, and her fiance, Scott Lee, 31, have been told that if they go ahead with the ceremony they will not be allowed to go on celebratory rides together.

Furthermore, Miss Morris and her female guests will have to cover up to be in line with guests of Islamic Leisure wearing hijabs. "I've been looking forward to this day for 18 months, and suddenly it's in ruins," she said yesterday.
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"The people with Islamic Leisure want their day as much as we do. I don't blame them at all. But Alton Towers shouldn't have done this. They should at least have rung us to discuss it."

Miss Morris, a recruitment sales advisor, and her fiance, a market trader, booked their wedding in the Emperor's Suite last year.
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At the time they made the booking the only date available was Saturday, Sept 16. They were happy to accept it, believing that they and the 60 guests for whom they had booked 20 rooms would be able to enjoy the following day on the rides.

Since then, however, Alton Towers have hired out the complex for its first Muslim fun day.

Believing that they and their own guests had the complex almost to themselves, Islamic Leisure drew up a list of requirements.
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These included the provision of prayer areas and bans on music, alcohol and gambling. In the Muslim tradition, women would also need to cover their bodies, as well as going on rides separately to their menfolk.

The couple have since contacted Islamic Leisure, whose staff confirmed that the wedding party would be asked to adhere to their conditions.

Yaseen Patel, the organisation's director, confirmed: "The body will have to be covered, (though) they do not have to wear the hijab."

An Alton Towers spokesman said staff would be discussing "the options available" with the couple.

She claimed it was a condition of the Islamic Leisure booking that wedding and hotel guests would be exempt from the Muslim dress code.


Now that says it all.... after contacting Islamic Lesuire, they won't compromise. The wedding party has to cover up and forget the beer.

Maybe I was wrong about the public bit. But theres still a conflict here.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 14, 2006, 08:15:02 PM
1 day in a year! What an outrage.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 08:20:13 PM
I'm sorry but you (hopefully) only ever get married once in your life.

This is a bloody outrage.  I feel so sorry for the Engaged Couple.

Actually, I am completely f***ing disgusted.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 08:22:11 PM
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Yaseen Patel, the organisation's director, confirmed: "The body will have to be covered, (though) they do not have to wear the hijab."


HAVE to?  HAVE to? Who the **** is she to say what someone has to do?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Lee on July 14, 2006, 08:24:23 PM
1 day in a year! What an outrage.

I agree, especially for 1 day in a lifetime!!  8)


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 14, 2006, 08:24:46 PM
Not sure i am comfortable with the racist undertones in certain posts in this thread


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Newmanseye on July 14, 2006, 08:24:57 PM
I  actually feel that the problem here is Alton towers, They made the cockup, they double booked, they have spoiled the wedding day, not the muslim populace.

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the common sense here people, I thought blondes were above such petty differences


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Jim-D on July 14, 2006, 08:25:49 PM
I  actually feel that the problem here is Alton towers, They made the cockup, they double booked, they have spoiled the wedding day, not the muslim populace.

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the common sense here people, I thought blondes were above such petty differences

 :goodpost: ;iagree;


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 14, 2006, 08:27:36 PM
Not sure i am comfortable with the racist undertones in certain posts in this thread


Nor am I, or those making light of how they'd like to torture people in the cat thread.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: totalise on July 14, 2006, 08:29:11 PM
I  actually feel that the problem here is Alton towers, They made the cockup, they double booked, they have spoiled the wedding day, not the muslim populace.

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the common sense here people, I thought blondes were above such petty differences

The first problem in this thread is the misrepresentation in the OP, seems like he has an agenda to fill and muffs up the facts to try and support it

that guy makes it sound like Alton Towers are banning anyone who isn't a muslim from going there

the article clearly says this isn't the case

from my brief reading.. the facts seem to be as follows:


A group of people book out a theme park for the day and impose their own rules as they see fit. Thats OK, they have paid for the privelage to do what they want

There was a wedding booked that got overlooked by Alton Towers

Sure seems pretty clear to me, Alton Towers muffed this one up.. so who should they give the preference to in terms of from now on. 20,000 people, or 60. That also seems clear enough to me.



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 08:30:41 PM
How would you feel if some complete stranger (no matter what colour, race or religion) told you what you had to wear?

Alton Towers should be ashamed for the cock up, but nobody, nobody should be able to tell you what you can or cannot wear!  This used to be a free country.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 08:32:40 PM
I  actually feel that the problem here is Alton towers, They made the cockup, they double booked, they have spoiled the wedding day, not the muslim populace.

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the common sense here people, I thought blondes were above such petty differences
:goodpost: :goodpost:

I agree, alton towers fucked up. But neither group is willing to move their day, so surely COMMON SENSE prevails? No! The Islamic Entertainment group has written to all the wedding party guests telling them the rules for the wedding that ahve to be adhered to.....

Whilst I am in no way racist, I am admitedly annoyed as to how one section of society can get away with such positive discrimination without so much as a eyelid being batted.

Immigrants come to this country for a myriad of reasons, and it is not for me to say who can and cannot enter this free nation of ours. But, I will request that tolerance be shown by all people who choose to live here! That means integrating with british society, and not forcing your beliefs and restrictions down the throats of those who you choose to live with. And tolerance works both ways. If it doesn't, we end up with situations like July 7th 2005, and parties like the BNP getting their wicked way. Or sunday bloody sunday.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 14, 2006, 08:33:49 PM
How would you feel if some complete stranger (no matter what colour, race or religion) told you what you had to wear?

Happened the other day, I thought I could go swimming fully clothed. Lifeguard disagreed.  :blonde:


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 08:35:36 PM
How would you feel if some complete stranger (no matter what colour, race or religion) told you what you had to wear?

Happened the other day, I thought I could go swimming fully clothed. Lifeguard disagreed.  :blonde:

Well that's bloody outrageous.  I would have completely ignored him and dived straight in fully clothed   -    if only I could swim!



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Newmanseye on July 14, 2006, 08:40:33 PM
Well lets be honest Here Micky, The islamic entertainment group does have more people coming to the park, this is worth a lot of money to Alton towers, who would you rather piss off, 60 people or 3000, or whatever the number of muslims is.

I am looking at this objectively, and if tussauds had any sense they would send the entire wedding party abroad to disney or basically give them a much better deal.

Just the best solution i can see IMHO


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 14, 2006, 08:41:51 PM

Quote from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/12/nwedd12.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/07/12/ixuknews.html


An Alton Towers spokesman said staff would be discussing "the options available" with the couple.

She claimed it was a condition of the Islamic Leisure booking that wedding and hotel guests would be exempt from the Muslim dress code.

looks like there is a missunderstanding, according to this bit the other guests are EXEMPT from the dress code as a condition of the booking.

It isnt the Muslim groups fault for having their own rules for their members on their day out. The fault is with Alton towers for making the mistake of not being organised enough to realise that the wedding was also booked for this day.






Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 08:47:22 PM
I actually feel that the problem here is Alton towers, They made the cockup, they double booked, they have spoiled the wedding day, not the muslim populace.

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the common sense here people, I thought blondes were above such petty differences

very good post - exactly what I was about to say!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 08:51:49 PM

Quote from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/12/nwedd12.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/07/12/ixuknews.html


An Alton Towers spokesman said staff would be discussing "the options available" with the couple.

She claimed it was a condition of the Islamic Leisure booking that wedding and hotel guests would be exempt from the Muslim dress code.

looks like there is a missunderstanding, according to this bit the other guests are EXEMPT from the dress code as a condition of the booking.

It isnt the Muslim groups fault for having their own rules for their members on their day out. The fault is with Alton towers for making the mistake of not being organised enough to realise that the wedding was also booked for this day.


Did you miss this bit? :

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The couple have since contacted Islamic Leisure, whose staff confirmed that the wedding party would be asked to adhere to their conditions.

Yaseen Patel, the organisation's director, confirmed: "The body will have to be covered, (though) they do not have to wear the hijab."


Plus the fact that their complimentary theme park rides will ahve to be ridden seperately, no honeymoon on the nemisis!

The best bet is for alton towers to send them on some all inclusive to disneyland!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: RED-DOG on July 14, 2006, 08:52:07 PM
Why do feelings run so high about something like this when we live in a world where thousands of people are dying every day from disease, hunger, thirst, abuse, and neglect?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Gryff on July 14, 2006, 08:54:20 PM
Ego and pack mentality I'm afraid. :-[



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: byronkincaid on July 14, 2006, 08:55:20 PM
errr, I read it as they (may) have spoiled the day after the wedding when they wanted to go on some rides. I don't see what the big deal is here. If they wanna go on a ride wear long trousers and a long sleave shirt, if not, go home.

If it's meant to be a day for the kids then I'm sure they won't mind, if the adults want to go on some stupid roller coaster then there's a reasonable chance that they're a bunch of sad w****** anyway.



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 08:59:57 PM
Why do feelings run so high about something like this when we live in a world where thousands of people are dying every day from disease, hunger, thirst, abuse, and neglect?

Daily mail syndrome? I agree btw, but dont get me started on those topics!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 09:00:05 PM
Why do feelings run so high about something like this when we live in a world where thousands of people are dying every day from disease, hunger, thirst, abuse, and neglect?

I take your point Tom, and it is a good one, but I'm afraid where such matters are concerned I cannot help but feel passionate.  If we were all more embracing (or even just tolerant) of the diversity within the world in which we live, maybe some of the problems you mention above would be less rife.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 09:02:11 PM
errr, I read it as they (may) have spoiled the day after the wedding when they wanted to go on some rides. I don't see what the big deal is here. If they wanna go on a ride wear long trousers and a long sleave shirt, if not, go home.

If it's meant to be a day for the kids then I'm sure they won't mind, if the adults want to go on some stupid roller coaster then there's a reasonable chance that they're a bunch of sad w****** anyway.


The wedding service that Alton Towers provide is that you get free useage of the park for you and your wedding guests. Basically the same deal as with the Muslim group (without the wedding bit obviously).

Alton Towers is to blame. But its the lack of tolerance that incensed me when I read this last week.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: totalise on July 14, 2006, 09:04:34 PM
Why do feelings run so high about something like this when we live in a world where thousands of people are dying every day from disease, hunger, thirst, abuse, and neglect?

I take your point Tom, and it is a good one, but I'm afraid where such matters are concerned I cannot help but feel passionate.  If we were all more embracing (or even just tolerant) of the diversity within the world in which we live, maybe some of the problems you mention above would be less rife.

you dont think that is why people here are getting annoyed? the muslim group aren't being very tolerant/embracing of the wedding party.. I mean getting married is a big deal in almost any religion, if they are tolerant they should be happy to see people of other religious cultures being so happy and embracing their god through the holy sanctitude of marriage

the problem with most apologists is that they think embracement/tolerance only works one way, when it has to work both ways otherwise it just creates an imbalance, and like most things, when there is an imbalance, that is when reactions occur







Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 14, 2006, 09:06:38 PM
Very true.

It's easy to get enraged, especially given the overzealous outrage mentality of some of the papers lately. For certain groups of society anyway.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: ariston on July 14, 2006, 09:09:53 PM
This isn't a religious/race issue- Alton Towers have made a business decision as they are a business. As long as anyone is willing to pay and they aren't breaking any laws Alton Towers will let you hire out the park for the day and do what you wish with it. As for the wedding party not being able to use the park after the wedding......boohoo. After both my weddings I had other things on my mind than a bloody big dipper. I didn't realise blonde would allow a debate/missinformation campaign on here, bordering on racism most of this thread.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Indestructable on July 14, 2006, 09:13:15 PM
This isn't a religious/race issue- Alton Towers have made a business decision as they are a business. As long as anyone is willing to pay and they aren't breaking any laws Alton Towers will let you hire out the park for the day and do what you wish with it. As for the wedding party not being able to use the park after the wedding......boohoo. After both my weddings I had other things on my mind than a bloody big dipper. I didn't realise blonde would allow a debate/missinformation campaign on here, bordering on racism most of this thread.

Spot on, it's all about money and if it had been a Catholic only day none of us would have been fussed.



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 09:15:48 PM
This isn't a religious/race issue- Alton Towers have made a business decision as they are a business. As long as anyone is willing to pay and they aren't breaking any laws Alton Towers will let you hire out the park for the day and do what you wish with it. As for the wedding party not being able to use the park after the wedding......boohoo. After both my weddings I had other things on my mind than a bloody big dipper. I didn't realise blonde would allow a debate/missinformation campaign on here, bordering on racism most of this thread.

Spot on, it's all about money and if it had been a Catholic only day none of us would have been fussed.




Wanna bet?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 09:33:40 PM
This isn't a religious/race issue- Alton Towers have made a business decision as they are a business. As long as anyone is willing to pay and they aren't breaking any laws Alton Towers will let you hire out the park for the day and do what you wish with it. As for the wedding party not being able to use the park after the wedding......boohoo. After both my weddings I had other things on my mind than a bloody big dipper. I didn't realise blonde would allow a debate/missinformation campaign on here, bordering on racism most of this thread.

Spot on, it's all about money and if it had been a Catholic only day none of us would have been fussed.



If it had been a Catholic day, and one of the Catholics told the couple that they could not use condoms in the hotel because of their religion, the couple would have told them to get stuffed. But they can't turn round to the islamic party and say the same thing, because that would be racist.

BTW... a catholic day wouldn't even happen if it was based in Northern Ireland. THERE, is a prime example of in-tolerance toward anothers religion/sect.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2006, 09:34:23 PM

Taking up Ariston's point, we (the Mods) are watching this thread very closely.

"Misinformation" happens all the time, so does debate, but if we feel that it becomes Racist, it will be firmly dealt with. Trust me.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 09:38:33 PM

Taking up Ariston's point, we (the Mods) are watching this thread very closely.

"Misinformation" happens all the time, so does debate, but if we feel that it becomes Racist, it will be firmly dealt with. Trust me.

Thanks tikay. I think I speak for everyone when I say I'm sure none of us want racisim to blight the blonde forums. And I'm also glad to see that the debate is allowed to continue.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 09:44:05 PM
This isn't a religious/race issue- Alton Towers have made a business decision as they are a business. As long as anyone is willing to pay and they aren't breaking any laws Alton Towers will let you hire out the park for the day and do what you wish with it. As for the wedding party not being able to use the park after the wedding......boohoo. After both my weddings I had other things on my mind than a bloody big dipper. I didn't realise blonde would allow a debate/missinformation campaign on here, bordering on racism most of this thread.

Spot on, it's all about money and if it had been a Catholic only day none of us would have been fussed.




Wanna bet?

would we ever have heard about it though?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2006, 09:50:19 PM

The Debate can continue all night for me Mikky, but blonde is 100% against Racism, & if it goes that way, we will do the necessary.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 14, 2006, 09:52:03 PM
I would like to bring it to your attention that on Sunday September 17th Alton Towers will be closed to everyone apart from Muslims.

Alton Towers staff will ensure there is no music, the bars will be closed and the entire park will adhere to Sharia Law. This of course is racist and discriminatory against the rest of the citizens of Britain.

Yes this is a private and corporate event but it is a case of exclusion for Britons on our own soil.

Could you imagine if I approached Tussauds (Alton Towers) with a view to making a corporate booking where Muslims were unwelcome then they would almost certainly refuse my business as they would be terrified of being branded as "corporate racists".

I cannot understand how this booking was made or even considered myself?! What if the shoe were on the other foot? Im pretty sure there would be protests all over the show!

I disagree

i this not the same as my work (Network Rail) approaching the Hilton hotel and asking to hire the full building out.

would our rival company (Jarvis Rail) feel discriminated against if they cant hire a room out that weekend?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 09:53:16 PM

The Debate can continue all night for me Mikky, but blonde is 100% against Racism, & if it goes that way, we will do the necessary.

Wouldnt have it any other way.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 14, 2006, 09:54:49 PM
This isn't a religious/race issue- Alton Towers have made a business decision as they are a business. As long as anyone is willing to pay and they aren't breaking any laws Alton Towers will let you hire out the park for the day and do what you wish with it. As for the wedding party not being able to use the park after the wedding......boohoo. After both my weddings I had other things on my mind than a bloody big dipper. I didn't realise blonde would allow a debate/missinformation campaign on here, bordering on racism most of this thread.

Spot on, it's all about money and if it had been a Catholic only day none of us would have been fussed.




Wanna bet?

would we ever have heard about it though?

What about the anti-Catholic celebration that took place in Belfast earlier this week that where attended by thousands of Orangemen and Ulster Loyalists and was broadcast live on BBC Northern Ireland as a cultural celebration???

The way I see it is this, none of the countries that make up the UK are muslim therefore IMO muslim law should not apply to any part of this country.

Look at the issue in the news today where two muslims where carted to jail for the murder of a relative (honour killing) because she dcided she wante dto be with a non-muslim man!!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 14, 2006, 09:57:06 PM
This seems to be getting a bit close to the bone, As claw rightly says, this is a private function, in a similar way to a company renting a hotel out for a full corporate function.

An example would be if a company like "corporate Express" rents out Alton towers, as they did recently, they had Corporate express music played, banners from the company and the CE flag was flown at the gates.

As it happens the public was not permitted to use the facilities on that day and only people from the company and Tussuad's were allowed on site to use the facilities.

Just because the religion is different we should not be bitter or accuse of raceism.

woops i didnt read this post before i posted almost the exact same situation lol.....


....hey thats another reason why Newmanseye and myself could be twins lol (PS Im not Gay - Honest)


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 09:57:52 PM
I would like to bring it to your attention that on Sunday September 17th Alton Towers will be closed to everyone apart from Muslims.

Alton Towers staff will ensure there is no music, the bars will be closed and the entire park will adhere to Sharia Law. This of course is racist and discriminatory against the rest of the citizens of Britain.

Yes this is a private and corporate event but it is a case of exclusion for Britons on our own soil.

Could you imagine if I approached Tussauds (Alton Towers) with a view to making a corporate booking where Muslims were unwelcome then they would almost certainly refuse my business as they would be terrified of being branded as "corporate racists".

I cannot understand how this booking was made or even considered myself?! What if the shoe were on the other foot? Im pretty sure there would be protests all over the show!

I disagree

i this not the same as my work (Network Rail) approaching the Hilton hotel and asking to hire the full building out.

would our rival company (Jarvis Rail) feel discriminated against if they cant hire a room out that weekend?

Dave, can I just say at this point that I agree with what you say - theres nothing wrong with block booking a hotel/theme park/<insert thing to be block booked here>.

The issue I had with this was the fact that the wedding party has been discriminated against, the organisation arranging the muslim day out wrote to all the wedding guests demanding that they (the wedding guests) adhere to the strict muslim dress code and no drinking rules, plus the "no fratanising with the opposite sex on a ride" rule.

I find that quite offensive to be honest, its tantamount to me coming up to you and demanding to you "remove that green and white shirt because its offensive to my protestant eyes" (example... Im not actually protestant


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 14, 2006, 10:01:26 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 14, 2006, 10:01:41 PM
That's a bit extremist...it's not hurting anyone. What's the big deal? I really don't understand what the difference between (as Dave said) a company with it's own needs hiring a venue.

Alton Towers are also have a gay only day as well... exactly the same as Disney do in it's own theme parks several days a year.

We all have 363 other days to choose to go there... where's the harm?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 14, 2006, 10:02:26 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 10:03:39 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?

I missed that one before!  We wouldn't want it raining on the nice couple's wedding day!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 14, 2006, 10:05:03 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



Boom, we have a winner.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 10:06:30 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



LOL I've found my forum twin... I was posting the same thing!

But, Heid there is a difference... we are not insisting that other visitors to the casino/hotel/cardroom and its staff all wear a certain dress and refrain from doing things that our society would consider as normal.

Assume a wedding party had booked the broadway at the same time, in a different function room. And TightEnd wrote to the wedding party and told them, sorry, we've booked this hotel after you for a bash thats bigger than you and as we are teetotal you will not be able to drink during the length of your stay. Oh and BTW, cover up your bodies because frankly they offend us! Especially the frumpy bride.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 10:06:40 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



That's brunetteist that is


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 10:07:17 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?

I missed that one before!  We wouldn't want it raining on the nice couple's wedding day!

ROFL, I ouldn't give a monkeys eitehr way. If it rains on my I hope they all suffer too lol!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 10:08:02 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



LOL I've found my forum twin... I was posting the same thing!

But, Heid there is a difference... we are not insisting that other visitors to the casino/hotel/cardroom and its staff all wear a certain dress and refrain from doing things that our society would consider as normal.

Assume a wedding party had booked the broadway at the same time, in a different function room. And TightEnd wrote to the wedding party and told them, sorry, we've booked this hotel after you for a bash thats bigger than you and as we are teetotal you will not be able to drink during the length of your stay. Oh and BTW, cover up your bodies because frankly they offend us! Especially the frumpy bride.


although if Kev had any say in it he would insist that they wear PVC!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 14, 2006, 10:08:13 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



LOL I've found my forum twin... I was posting the same thing!

But, Heid there is a difference... we are not insisting that other visitors to the casino/hotel/cardroom and its staff all wear a certain dress and refrain from doing things that our society would consider as normal.

Assume a wedding party had booked the broadway at the same time, in a different function room. And TightEnd wrote to the wedding party and told them, sorry, we've booked this hotel after you for a bash thats bigger than you and as we are teetotal you will not be able to drink during the length of your stay. Oh and BTW, cover up your bodies because frankly they offend us! Especially the frumpy bride.


At BB1, no-one was allowed to play the poker tournament except blondes, I saw them turn people away.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 10:09:38 PM
This isn't a religious/race issue- Alton Towers have made a business decision as they are a business. As long as anyone is willing to pay and they aren't breaking any laws Alton Towers will let you hire out the park for the day and do what you wish with it. As for the wedding party not being able to use the park after the wedding......boohoo. After both my weddings I had other things on my mind than a bloody big dipper. I didn't realise blonde would allow a debate/missinformation campaign on here, bordering on racism most of this thread.

Spot on, it's all about money and if it had been a Catholic only day none of us would have been fussed.




Wanna bet?

would we ever have heard about it though?

Probably.

We all know how much the Press like to sh*t stir!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 10:10:12 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



LOL I've found my forum twin... I was posting the same thing!

But, Heid there is a difference... we are not insisting that other visitors to the casino/hotel/cardroom and its staff all wear a certain dress and refrain from doing things that our society would consider as normal.

Assume a wedding party had booked the broadway at the same time, in a different function room. And TightEnd wrote to the wedding party and told them, sorry, we've booked this hotel after you for a bash thats bigger than you and as we are teetotal you will not be able to drink during the length of your stay. Oh and BTW, cover up your bodies because frankly they offend us! Especially the frumpy bride.


At BB1, no-one was allowed to play the poker tournament except blondes, I saw them turn people away.

Thats fair enough - thats what a block booking entails. In BB1, the casino didn't fuck up by inadvertantly booking two exclusive parties on the same day. But were those people turned away from the cardroom and told they couldn't drink, and to cover up their legs and arms? Or have any other restrictions imposed on the freedom that living in this society has afforded us?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 14, 2006, 10:11:21 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



LOL I've found my forum twin... I was posting the same thing!

But, Heid there is a difference... we are not insisting that other visitors to the casino/hotel/cardroom and its staff all wear a certain dress and refrain from doing things that our society would consider as normal.

Assume a wedding party had booked the broadway at the same time, in a different function room. And TightEnd wrote to the wedding party and told them, sorry, we've booked this hotel after you for a bash thats bigger than you and as we are teetotal you will not be able to drink during the length of your stay. Oh and BTW, cover up your bodies because frankly they offend us! Especially the frumpy bride.


We asked anyone to join our forum, and adhere to our rules, or they couldn't play.

That's our equivalent of that?

They have paid for the right to have a bespoke service, I am sure that it was on the understanding that no-one else would be there. Kinda like someone prebooking a comp when we were there and then starting to spout unblondelike stuff....wewouldn't want that in our community - they don't want their equivalent rules broken?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 10:12:22 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?

This comment was made after a post saying something about integrating into British Society, so what better way than it pissing it down all day!   Sheesh    CHILL!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 10:12:40 PM

Assume a wedding party had booked the broadway at the same time, in a different function room. And TightEnd wrote to the wedding party and told them, sorry, we've booked this hotel after you for a bash thats bigger than you and as we are teetotal you will not be able to drink during the length of your stay. Oh and BTW, cover up your bodies because frankly they offend us! Especially the frumpy bride.


although if Kev had any say in it he would insist that they wear PVC!
rotflmfao


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 10:13:42 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?

I missed that one before!  We wouldn't want it raining on the nice couple's wedding day!

Their wedding day is the day before!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 14, 2006, 10:15:26 PM
I would like to bring it to your attention that on Sunday September 17th Alton Towers will be closed to everyone apart from Muslims.

Alton Towers staff will ensure there is no music, the bars will be closed and the entire park will adhere to Sharia Law. This of course is racist and discriminatory against the rest of the citizens of Britain.

Yes this is a private and corporate event but it is a case of exclusion for Britons on our own soil.

Could you imagine if I approached Tussauds (Alton Towers) with a view to making a corporate booking where Muslims were unwelcome then they would almost certainly refuse my business as they would be terrified of being branded as "corporate racists".

I cannot understand how this booking was made or even considered myself?! What if the shoe were on the other foot? Im pretty sure there would be protests all over the show!

I disagree

i this not the same as my work (Network Rail) approaching the Hilton hotel and asking to hire the full building out.

would our rival company (Jarvis Rail) feel discriminated against if they cant hire a room out that weekend?

Dave, can I just say at this point that I agree with what you say - theres nothing wrong with block booking a hotel/theme park/<insert thing to be block booked here>.

The issue I had with this was the fact that the wedding party has been discriminated against, the organisation arranging the Muslim day out wrote to all the wedding guests demanding that they (the wedding guests) adhere to the strict Muslim dress code and no drinking rules, plus the "no fratanising with the opposite sex on a ride" rule.

I find that quite offensive to be honest, its tantamount to me coming up to you and demanding to you "remove that green and white shirt because its offensive to my protestant eyes" (example... Im not actually protestant

cool mate, im not speaking to-wards you, im more concerned with the initial post on this thread, which mainly states that its the fact its Muslim hiring the place out that is causing the aggravation? this concerns me!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 14, 2006, 10:15:59 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?

I missed that one before!  We wouldn't want it raining on the nice couple's wedding day!

Their wedding day is the day before!

lol - really?!  Where's the problem then?!?!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 10:17:29 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?

I missed that one before!  We wouldn't want it raining on the nice couple's wedding day!

Their wedding day is the day before!

lol - really?!  Where's the problem then?!?!

Try reading my other post first!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: thetank on July 14, 2006, 10:18:38 PM
I think I've missed the meat of this debate, so can't add much.

I'll just say that I hope it doesn't piss it down, and everyone has a lovely time.



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 10:18:53 PM
In fact ... what's the difference between this and blonde poker taking over the broadway card room in Jan for a night, or cin cins, or Walsall in September?



LOL I've found my forum twin... I was posting the same thing!

But, Heid there is a difference... we are not insisting that other visitors to the casino/hotel/cardroom and its staff all wear a certain dress and refrain from doing things that our society would consider as normal.

Assume a wedding party had booked the broadway at the same time, in a different function room. And TightEnd wrote to the wedding party and told them, sorry, we've booked this hotel after you for a bash thats bigger than you and as we are teetotal you will not be able to drink during the length of your stay. Oh and BTW, cover up your bodies because frankly they offend us! Especially the frumpy bride.


We asked anyone to join our forum, and adhere to our rules, or they couldn't play.

That's our equivalent of that?

They have paid for the right to have a bespoke service, I am sure that it was on the understanding that no-one else would be there. Kinda like someone prebooking a comp when we were there and then starting to spout unblondelike stuff....wewouldn't want that in our community - they don't want their equivalent rules broken?

Nope, thats not the same.

Heres the correct analogy.

Group 1: Wedding party. Book some sort of casino & poker theme night at the broadway for a certain weekend. They are told that other patrons would be there but all facilities would be open to them, and there would be a poker tournament should their guests which to participate on the Saturday night.


Group 2: Blonde poker. Block book the cardroom of said Broadway casino on said same weekend, for the Saturday night. They stipulate that its for a private function, and that the cardroom will be maxed out by its guests. The casino agrees with this, and agrees to the terms and conditions that only guests of the blonde poker booking will be allowed into the card room.

Now. . . Broadway realises theres been a MASSIVE fk up. They contact both parties to tell them the script. Blonde poker then writes to each individual member of the wedding party to say "listen, we have booked the casino for our private function. We cannot tell you not to come because the casino has fecked up. But the poker is off limits, its fully booked. Additionally, here are our rules and we expect them to be obeyed. All women must be completely naked."


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 14, 2006, 10:20:48 PM
I hope it p*sses it down all day!

why?

just because some people from another religious group are enjoying themselves?

This comment was made after a post saying something about integrating into British Society, so what better way than it pissing it down all day!   Sheesh    CHILL!

Ok trace thanks for clearing that up..... it reads wrong, since the initial post has now been deleted...And i hate racists

Thanks again trace xx


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 14, 2006, 10:21:48 PM
ROFL! I stand corrected:)


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 10:24:00 PM
Its not the booking that got on my tits... if they can afford it they can have a private function whereever they damn well please, thats their right! Its the way they wrote to the wedding party after finding out they would be there and demanded that certain rules be followed. Thats just ignorance and intolerant if you ask me.

Anyway Im getting off this soapbox as I probably sound like a complete mad raving idiot.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 14, 2006, 10:25:09 PM
Its not the booking that got on my tits... if they can afford it they can have a private function whereever they damn well please, thats their right! Its the way they wrote to the wedding party after finding out they would be there and demanded that certain rules be followed. Thats just ignorance and intolerant if you ask me.

Anyway Im getting off this soapbox as I probably sound like a complete mad raving idiot.


sound? ? ? ? ?   lol


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: ariston on July 14, 2006, 10:33:17 PM
I think they wrote to the wedding guests to explain if they wanted to use their themepark (they had hired it for the day after all) they would have to adhere to the rules they have put in place for the park on that day. They haven't interfered with the wedding so why should the wedding interfere with their day? They could've said you cant use the park but they have said the wedding party is welcome as long as they stick to the parks rules for the day. Why is everyone getting so worked up over a private function? 100s of these functions take place every year at different venues. Ah now I remember, its a function by Muslims so everyone has a right to get angry- they aren't popular in the media at the minute. If Alton towers was hired out by the Naturist society and said all guests had to be naked would you all complain if you couldnt get in with your camcorders and cords? I know I'd just say what the hell and go with the flow (and its not a pretty site ;) )


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 14, 2006, 10:40:43 PM
I think they wrote to the wedding guests to explain if they wanted to use their themepark (they had hired it for the day after all) they would have to adhere to the rules they have put in place for the park on that day. They haven't interfered with the wedding so why should the wedding interfere with their day? They could've said you cant use the park but they have said the wedding party is welcome as long as they stick to the parks rules for the day. Why is everyone getting so worked up over a private function? 100s of these functions take place every year at different venues. Ah now I remember, its a function by Muslims so everyone has a right to get angry- they aren't popular in the media at the minute. If Alton towers was hired out by the Naturist society and said all guests had to be naked would you all complain if you couldnt get in with your camcorders and cords? I know I'd just say what the hell and go with the flow (and its not a pretty site ;) )

Because they both booked a private function! Alton Towers (who are to blame for the fiasco) took the wedding parties money and promised them a full wedding including full use of the theme park without restriction.

Then they took the Muslim parties money and promised them full use of the theme park. I guess you can call the theme park "the promised land"..... okay religious joke...

The Islamic Entertainments Group got wind of the wedding and wrote to the guests to say "oi, its our theme park and heres our rules"

But in the last bit of the news item, Alton Towers say that there will be no such restriction in place.

TBH If there was a naturist party at the theme park that had been block booked, then I would say exactly the same thing if they requested that the wedding party also be stripped off their clothes.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Royal Flush on July 15, 2006, 11:57:06 AM
I am shocked by what a lot of people wrote in this thread, people i would consider to be sensible people. I guess it goes to show the latent racisicm in this country.

The first thing i noted was the it is a Muslim day, not an Arab day or a Japanese day etc, British muslims are welcome aswell are they not?  Comments like  it is a case of exclusion for Britons on our own soil. are ignorant at best.

As for some wedding going on the same day, Alton Towers made a mistake, the wedding party have i am sure been offered the chance to re-schedule. If they opt not to do that then that is up to them!

If a group of people want to enjoy the rides without mixing sex's why can't they? If a christian day was held on a friday would people be this worked up if they asked alton towers to not serve meat? I really don't think so.

it is attitudes like those in this thread that make it so hard for people trying to intergrate into this society, remember its a 2 way thing it's not a case of saying they have "to try harder"/"make the effort" people have to make the effort to welcome them aswell.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: stallyon on July 15, 2006, 12:09:13 PM
here's an idea: how about Blonde Does Alton Towers? arrange a date suitable for all and lets all invade Alton Towers on a big day out...who's up for it?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: charmaine on July 15, 2006, 03:27:52 PM
If we can bring the kids ...... oh yessssssssssssssss !!!!!!!! , nominate Stally to do all the arraging for this event  ;goodvevil;  ;D


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: TheJagster on July 16, 2006, 09:17:06 AM
I am shocked by what a lot of people wrote in this thread, people i would consider to be sensible people. I guess it goes to show the latent racisicm in this country.

The first thing i noted was the it is a Muslim day, not an Arab day or a Japanese day etc, British muslims are welcome aswell are they not?  Comments like  it is a case of exclusion for Britons on our own soil. are ignorant at best.

As for some wedding going on the same day, Alton Towers made a mistake, the wedding party have i am sure been offered the chance to re-schedule. If they opt not to do that then that is up to them!

If a group of people want to enjoy the rides without mixing sex's why can't they? If a christian day was held on a friday would people be this worked up if they asked alton towers to not serve meat? I really don't think so.

it is attitudes like those in this thread that make it so hard for people trying to intergrate into this society, remember its a 2 way thing it's not a case of saying they have "to try harder"/"make the effort" people have to make the effort to welcome them aswell.

Well I am completely shocked and amazed.

I never thought I would do this!


 :goodpost:


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Robert HM on July 16, 2006, 10:04:25 AM
OK I have been trying to keep out of this thread, it saddened me and I wish it would shrivel up and go away but as it is now back up near the top I won't be reviving it on my own. I am also taking the opportunity to agree, wholeheartedly, with Jagster, I could never agree with flushy directly lol


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: thetank on July 16, 2006, 10:24:37 AM
I'll in-in-directly agree with RobertHM then :)


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: charmaine on July 16, 2006, 11:04:59 AM
Good post Flushy  ;scarymoment; dont tell Paul i just said that  ;goodvevil;


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Claw75 on July 16, 2006, 11:20:11 AM
Flushy - the voice of reason!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 11:55:32 AM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts? should folk that contribute blantently racist comments be banned or should they be allowed to say their piece without having their posts deleted?


mad


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Robert HM on July 16, 2006, 12:06:56 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts?

I'm i being too naive?

mad


mad one member posted an "inappropriate" post and was pulled up by a mod. The mod asked the member to remove his post before he did it himself, the poster then removed the post and put another post in its place. I moved the mods post as he said he was going to do it himself anyway, should the poster delete his own that is. brad posted a single word reply but quoted the errant member post in its entirety. I deleted that part of the thread. My mistake was not telling bradley s that I deleted his single word post. I will now go into the garden and self flagellate, not out of punishment but because I like that sort of thing.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: ifm on July 16, 2006, 12:33:57 PM
Some posts in this thread don't make sense now, having read thru it i can't see any racism.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: RED-DOG on July 16, 2006, 12:35:11 PM
Some posts in this thread don't make sense now, having read thru it i can't see any racism.

Good!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: ifm on July 16, 2006, 12:36:08 PM
Some posts in this thread don't make sense now, having read thru it i can't see any racism.

Good!

Agreed :)


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 12:36:19 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts?

I'm i being too naive?

mad


 I will now go into the garden and self flagellate, not out of punishment but because I like that sort of thing.

it takes all sorts Robert, it takes all sorts!!!!!!! goodness i sounded like fred elliot there :)


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Robert HM on July 16, 2006, 12:37:08 PM
Some posts in this thread don't make sense now, having read thru it i can't see any racism.

Ian,the deleted posts were just a tight section and did not affect the rest of the thread at all, in fact they were from page 6, though I would agree that some parts of the thread don't make sense but that is not because of any deletions, saying nothing else.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 16, 2006, 02:22:52 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?

Actually Mad as far as I can see theres only 1 or 2 posts that have gone, and they weren't that interesting anyway. One liners.

The original posters comments are still there.

I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts? should folk that contribute blantently racist comments be banned or should they be allowed to say their piece without having their posts deleted?

I was the most vocal on the subject, and all my posts have remained in tact. Any posts made after, say, page 6 where not from the Friday nights debating anyway.

Personally, I think anything racist should stay and be used in a "naming and shaming" scandal of some sort. But then, anyone can have a moment of drunken madness I spose.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 16, 2006, 02:38:01 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts? should folk that contribute blantently racist comments be banned or should they be allowed to say their piece without having their posts deleted?


mad

Sounds like sheer bloody nosiness just for the hell of it to me!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Robert HM on July 16, 2006, 02:42:21 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts? should folk that contribute blantently racist comments be banned or should they be allowed to say their piece without having their posts deleted?


mad

Sounds like sheer bloody nosiness just for the hell of it to me!

 /:-| !


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 04:21:18 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts? should folk that contribute blantently racist comments be banned or should they be allowed to say their piece without having their posts deleted?


mad

Sounds like sheer bloody nosiness just for the hell of it to me!

you call it bloody nosiness. i call it curiosity  ;) and yes its just for the hell of it. is that okay with you Trace?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: RED-DOG on July 16, 2006, 04:28:46 PM
Anyone got any jelly?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 04:31:23 PM
no but i got spare hormone replacement therapy.... rotflmfao


did i take that too far?? ;hide;


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 16, 2006, 04:58:37 PM
Anyone got any jelly?
:o :o :o


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Royal Flush on July 16, 2006, 05:58:39 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts? should folk that contribute blantently racist comments be banned or should they be allowed to say their piece without having their posts deleted?


mad

Sounds like sheer bloody nosiness just for the hell of it to me!

I think Mad has every right to ask what went on.

Another fine post by Trace in this thread, to go along with "i hope it pisses it down all day"


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 16, 2006, 06:03:01 PM
I think there's been quite enough personal attacks and unrest in this thread to last blonde a good few weeks.

Mad, had every right to ask, and she got an answer, Trace was given a look from Mr Hmm for her comment, and now you are getting one for starting up on Trace.

:::::glare:::::

Please don't :)

Thanks :)

Heid
<mwah>


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: mikkyT on July 16, 2006, 06:03:29 PM
sounds like i missed a heated debate last night and brad says much of the posts have been removed. what was the reason for removing them? were the opinions too strong?
I for one would like to know what people opinions are as thats how you build a picture of someone and get to 'know' them.  i appreciate some of the opinions may have been inappropriate for blonde but if thats the case why not just say that instead of deleting the posts? should folk that contribute blantently racist comments be banned or should they be allowed to say their piece without having their posts deleted?


mad

Sounds like sheer bloody nosiness just for the hell of it to me!

I think Mad has every right to ask what went on.

Another fine post by Trace in this thread, to go along with "i hope it pisses it down all day"


It was "I hope it p*sses down all day" actually. Do get it right if you are going to quote people!

Mad can see what was going on. Theres been 1 (or 2 at most) posts removed. As IFM stated, "I cant see anything racist". Just a bunch of people overreacting for various reasons, including me.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 16, 2006, 08:33:46 PM
The lights are on, but no-one's home!!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Royal Flush on July 16, 2006, 08:49:26 PM
Another fine contribution.....


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 08:52:10 PM
The lights are on, but no-one's home!!

trace
my lights are on and brad me and the dig are at home.....:) you think im innocent and butter would not melt then? where did you gather that opinion from?

ive met bullies before and none have bested me ;tk;


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 16, 2006, 08:54:04 PM
Please please please can you take this to PM?

If you don't get on that's fine, but please don't do this in public :( Or if you must do it in public, please don't do it on blonde.

That goes for all 3 of ya :)


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 16, 2006, 08:54:06 PM
OMG are you paranoid or what?

The lights are on, but no-one is home <<<<<<<<,  ME!!!


Butter wouldn't melt! <<<<<<<<<<<< ME


I'm taking the piss outta myself FFS..

Get off your high horse.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 08:55:03 PM
heid

ive pmed her

mad


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 16, 2006, 08:55:41 PM
Heid

I've PM'd her back.

Trace


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 08:56:17 PM
OMG are you paranoid or what?

The lights are on, but no-one is home <<<<<<<<,  ME!!!


Butter wouldn't melt! <<<<<<<<<<<< ME


I'm taking the piss outta myself FFS..

Get off your high horse.

yes sure


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Trace on July 16, 2006, 08:57:01 PM
rotflmfao


I'm off back to bed - all this excitement is just too much for me.


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 16, 2006, 08:57:24 PM
Cool,

Thanks girlies :)



Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: whufc65 on July 16, 2006, 09:00:02 PM
So when is the blonde trip to Alton Towers?


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: Heid on July 16, 2006, 09:00:41 PM
It's not September 17th!!


Title: Re: Alton Towers
Post by: madasahatstand on July 16, 2006, 09:08:47 PM
all that adrenaline. i just won a 5 seater $30 =105. hope the hit lasts :)