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Title: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: pswnio on July 19, 2006, 12:24:38 AM
£5 + £1 buy in tourney. Sitting in 8th place with 17 left, have made the minor money, no action for me for a while. Quite a few hands being settled pre-flop with all in moves after a raise; HansKR has done this a couple of times in the last 20 hands or so, and has also moved all in on the flop once. He hasn't been called and hasn't shown hands.

------HAND 5------
Game #3047420024: Hold'em NL (400/800) - 2006/07/19 - 00:12:14 (GMT)
Table "Tourney 3073731 - 1" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: Covenantr (22785 in chips)
Seat 2: AL SENGO (16466.16 in chips)
Seat 3: Sarac1 (18240 in chips)
Seat 5: acmilano8 (9475 in chips)
Seat 7: HansKr (32537.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Louiejon (16092.50 in chips)
Seat 9: ostara (14567.50 in chips)
Seat 10: sixtimes (16760 in chips)
HansKr: posts the ante 100
Louiejon: posts the ante 100
ostara: posts the ante 100
sixtimes: posts the ante 100
Covenantr: posts the ante 100
AL SENGO: posts the ante 100
Sarac1: posts the ante 100
acmilano8: posts the ante 100
HansKr: posts small blind 400
Louiejon: posts big blind 800
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to sixtimes [Kh Qh]
ostara: folds
sixtimes: raises to 2400
Covenantr: calls 2400
AL SENGO: folds
Sarac1: folds
acmilano8: folds
HansKr: raises to 32437.50 and is all-in

Questions for clever poker people:

1. Was the raise from early position an acceptable move? I figure I should have limped but I wanted to top up my chips a little...
2. No knowledge of HansKr, really, apart from pretty active recently. Is it fair to assume he's on the steal, or does his all in smack of a big hand?




Title: Re: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: bhoywonder on July 19, 2006, 01:30:33 AM
my guess is he wants the pot now.....a quick guess at AQ

u were dominated ,you called and you got beat


Title: Re: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: SupaMonkey on July 19, 2006, 01:32:59 AM
IMO

1. Only if you've been very tight and you can assume that everyone will pass. I would have let it go.

2. He could be pulling a squeeze play here, but you have to wonder what the guy behind you has.


Title: Re: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: Bongo on July 19, 2006, 01:38:49 AM
I think open raising is far better than open limping - it gives you a chance to pick up the blinds and antes with no contest.

With no further info I think you have to pass here. You have enough chips to find a better spot than calling with KQ.


Title: Re: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: snoopy1239 on July 19, 2006, 10:10:18 AM
If you're going to fold the hand to a reraise, then it doesn't really matter what your cards are.

I think he could have a large number of various holdings in this position A marginal one, due to the amount of chips he has and the potential for a squeeze play, but also a strong one due to the fact that you have showed strength by raising from early position.

As far as limping goes, I'd rather fold than limp here.


Title: Re: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 19, 2006, 01:44:29 PM
This looks like a Crypto tourney right?

For me at this stage, KQs in early position is either a raise or a fold hand, but with the blinds and running antes being as they are, I don't think there's anything wrong with a raise here and dumping it to a re-raise. In and around the final table can get very crapshooty therefore I try to steal a lot around this point, unless I'm playing against my blonde friends, in which case I raise with AA and nothing else.


Title: Re: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: pswnio on July 19, 2006, 06:03:08 PM
Crypto tourney, yup. I called and he showed AK. J 10 came up on flop but no runner for me. Second time recently that I've been dumped by a pre flop all in push from a big stack. All good experience. Thanks for your views.


Title: Re: More pre-flop analysis
Post by: Gryff on July 19, 2006, 08:39:47 PM
I'll say this, you're paying 20% juice on the tournament, you would be better off playing somewhere that is 10% on tournaments at this level.