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Are any of you guys watching this awesome show???

I downloaded the entire 1st season recently and after just 7 episodes i'm totally hooked. The show even goe as far to include secret messages that link to secret websites with secret games lol, a very interesting show indeed.

Although its not on the poker channel so i'm not sure some of you guys will have seen it (men and motors so ironside def wont have lol)

How much room does 7 episodes take up on your computer?

Yeah awsome show, Ive seen up to episode 21 but I didnt see ANY secret messages  :'(

well i got all 25 plus an feature episode going into the whole story and it was just over 8gig but with encoding its possible to lower that.

most tv shows can be as little as 200mb per episode and movies 700mb

the full dvd is going to be available from october 31st and the early episodes (the ones being shown on C4 and E4 are quite hard to find in english

Yeah, I got them all in English although 7 & 8 had French subtitles!

apparently messages are shown up till episode 18 but are hard as hell to spot.

They all get used on a web site for the airline featured in the show, theres also masssive clues to whats going on in the background to most of the flash back scenes

thought i'd start a topic on here as every other forum on the web has got one lol

Have they explained why there are polar bears on a topical island???.

Don't tell me as I can wait. This is the first American show that has caught my interest since the brilliant Twin Peaks.

I feel like the rest of the UK has finally started to understand what i have gone through the last year.

I started wacthing lost last summer when i was living in Florida. Its bloody great!

I showed it to my brother who then got hooked, he in turn hooked all his uni m8's. Ginger also suffered the same fate. The show is quite simply an addiciton!!!

as afra s i know the polar bear thing hasnt been exposed yet but i found something really interesting about it but i wont spoil it if you dont want to, all i will say is keep a close eye on any books/literature that appear on the island

Please please please ...no spoilers, im already hooked and i have to switch the pc off, the phone goes off the hook and the mobile gets switched off when its on .... i have E4 but i dont watch the next episode straight after as i have my wednesday nights planned around the 10 o'clock show.

that Kate is fit though ;) ..... AND NO.. i dont want to know what her crime was ...so SHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im begging you :)

ah the lovely evangeline Lilley (kate) check out evangeline-lilly.net if your a fan kev contains good info about show too

lol NOooooooooooooooo   i cant check any websites etc...  i dont want to know whats gonna happen.......   i may have to steer clear of this thread from now on ;) 

there are no spilers on it and i wont be posting any on here, i'm hoping everyone else will respect that too

Ok how about a compromise ... i will allow you one spoiler .... does Kate ever get her baps out ? :)

OK OK
What day and what side? I'm missing summat here.

I think you are all sad.
Before anyone says it I have seen it and am also hooked but will be avoiding all threads on this subject for fear of it ruining things. Would be interested to know if Kate does give them a good wafting in any future episode though.

come on!!
I don't want to miss them, when and where are they, I mean it, aired??  :D

I'm with you ariston, fearful of reading it for someone ruining it! OK, question. WHere can i downlaod these episodes, or other tv episodes for that matter. I hear yo ucan get the WSOP downloaded (new one).
I dont know why i am even asking, i know i wont ever find this site again, lol. If you were desperate, yo ucould have had my domain and hosting, never used it, lol

I know of one member on here who runs an internet company with his own servers/ hosting facilities. Would of made sence to use him as he is an active member of the community and has full time anoraks working for him to ensure no more outages occur.

not quite sure if i can tell of linksto downloads as its not exactly legal lol.

Current series is being shown on wednesdays on channel 4 only 3 episodes in i think first 3 are being repeated this weekend as well

you can down load tv shows using a bit torrent client and then using a tracker like many hundreds on the net

you can download anything from tv shows to movies before they are released aswell as porn

all 25 episodes are available at one of these sites in one file thats 8gig findin early english episodes is a bit tough as theyw ere shown months ago in states but have just been repeated

a site i have heard about  is pretty good.

ahh, i tried that bit torrent a while ago but had some problems as my Norton Security is a bit too good. portforwarding.com was a little too complicated for me

Enough of the techy talk .... does she get her norks out or what ? :)

well shes in her bra a lot in the opening episodes and she gets quite dirty (muddy lol)

I can gladly spoil the fact that she doesn't at all in the first series!

Top show, but I could of happily killed James for getting me hooked. In fact i'm so hooked i'm watching the whole lot again on TV. 

Can we start a Help Group??  

as with most USA tv shows there will be no nudity

man they even pixlate big brother

Trick is to watch cable shows, not network shows!

Ginger ... thats really spoiled it for me now  >:(

What about the blonde one thats preggers ?  surely we must get a glimpse of tittage from her ? :)

Ironside, help please!. OK, if i go to bittorrent.com and download it, is that enough or do i need this reactor thing as ewll. Any ideas how to get around the port problems?

jbsc want to give me a phone it will be easier

Hi, Sent you a PM ironside

Guys guys - for pete's sake PLEASE don't use mininova - it hosts trackers for the authorities that are trying to catch out downloaders.  This has been proved on the torrent site I use, which is POTUK - I go there for EVERYTHING and it really is very safe.

I have 9 invites, so if you are interested, please PM me with your email address and an invite will be on its way. Ask Royal Fish and Ginger - they've both got it off me.

Oh and as far as LOST goes, I too have watched the whole damn lot, and all I will say is you're still none the wiser at the end of this series!!!!

Roll on Series Two.

isn't this all pretty illegal? along the same lines as music and film piracy?

Illegal music downloading is something I feel strongly against and so should you all.  I know it's rare anyone voices this opinion these days but piracy is theft and it has a major impact on the entertainment industry and long term has a major impact on artist development and the end product being altered significantly. As someone who's been at the bottom end of the music industry trying to break into the big leagues for 15 years I've seen the impact of music theft first hand. in the mid / late 80s and through to the mid 90s record companies would give many decent musicians a chance, to varying degrees of success. some bilge got through but if no-one bought it, it soon went away. as record sales declined and profit margins were cut the major record labels have had to change their approach. Why do you thing we're getting such a lot of pop idol / formulaic boy / girl / pop band type artists? because record companies have 'us' vote in our millions for the people 'we' want signed. they won't take a chance on fresh young talent, just incase it doesn't succeed, where as before you only had to have a fighting chance to get picked up.

buy your CD / DVD / video / book / magazine
don't steal it.

as a person who has over 150 cd (although the last one i bought was in 1994 as i cant stand any of the music recently and dont listen to it)and 60 dvd i have to agree with adam

but on the tv front i like bitorrent  nothing wrong IMHO in downloading a program and watching it aslong as the upload hasnt altered the broadcast in anyway including the adverts saves me using video tape

yet still you give advice and tech help to blondites wanting to down load simpsons / lost / any other media for sale.

I have many more CDs than that and will continue to pay for them.

copyright theft is THEFT and is not something to be proud of and discussed openly.

Sorry guys but this really is a raw nerve for me. :-[

tv programs downloaded off the net have usually had the ads removed.

I see no problem with downloading tv episodes as you could just have taped em anyway and seeing as many tv compnies are currently investing in tv on demand thru the net its the same thing, within the next few months you will be able to download the majority of popular tv shows that have already been shown for free straight from the company.

Anyway this is statring to gt off topic as ususal lol

I recall something very similar being said about itunes, how it would effect the music industry for the worse. And online poker affecting poker in general....
I was also in a similar position to you Adam, playing in a band (about 15 years ago now). For up and coming bands, i believe these sort of download are great. Let me tell you, I have downloaded LOADS of songs from the internet to listen to them and see how the band are, then, if I liked them, I went and bought the original CD. I have spent loads of money as a consequence that otherwise the music industry would not have had. I also got to hear some of my favourite bands such as the RX Bandits etc. These bands would not have a prayer of radio play so is a great medium to get heard.
Do you object to Ebay? It is the same. People buy a CD/DVD, copy it, then sell it on ebay with the artist/actors etc not getting a percentage of the sale, yet, they have lost out by the person in question not buying from the shops. I dont hear an outcry about them.

Corrr blimey - we were only on about LOST!!!   Not music.  

ofcourse I object to that, thats exactly the problem.
people selling pirate media without the artist and record company getting paid.

criminal

and wether it's Lost or music, it's still theft

i wont buy any cd's untill elvis records another one for me to buy i dont listen to any more

i am buying about 1-2 dvd a month now

and yes i will give advice on how to download tv programs because tv is for the masses

tv is free to air (on the most part) and i dont see anything wrong in it being shared

but the advice you give can be used to steal other media

Which is the downloaders problem NOT the advisors.  It all depends on whether the downloader has a conscience or not.

very true trace, bittorrent like msot things was developed as a sharing tool for legitimate material and like anything else it was used for other bad things.

And my comments about the benefits Adam? Do you agree there are also many benefits for the smaller artists?
Yes, Ironsides advise can be used to steal. This forum can also be accused of causing a gambling problem. I think we all need to be intelligent with any information we are given and deal with it accordingly. I do agree there is a potential problem for abuse of those sites but tat can happen anywhere. Here in Greece, the streets are litered with people walking around the tourists areas selling pirated CD's. That is dreadful but I believe a completely different level to what we are talkign about...anyway, back to the topic, isnt Lost great, lol!
Debating is good.

it isnt about conscience, it's about illegality, and the fact that criminal activity is so openly discussed. Obviously it's music piracy that I feel strongest about because of my vested interest but copyright theft is a major issue and "well everyone does it" isn't good enough

while in the army i taught cadets how to fire a rifle which could lead to them shooting targets as intended or people if they were murdering scum

what i did was legal the way they choice to use the information and skills i gave them was upto them

Bad lads army is on soon, thats also unmissable in my opinion, very very funny... the provo sargeant is absolutely fantastic.   " Have you got the backbone boy !!"   " Im gonna f***ng eat you boy, then im gonna spit your useless f****ng bones out, and feed them to my dog"   classic :)

there are NO benefit to musicians from copyright theft.

the genuine download industry is in it's early stages and we'll have to see how it goes but piracy is hurting the fledgling musician.

I too learned to fire a gun and have never used the skill illegaly. I also teach some pretty nasty martial art techniques to people that have never been used irresponsibly by them or me. I would not teach someone I believed to be likely to misuse the info.

nothing to do with whether or not stealing is ok when it's from a media company or from artists.

every wish you hadnt started a discussion???? lol

i just found out there have been more seasons of lost commishioned (season 2 is being done now and each episode is recorded only 3 weeks before it airs) in total theres going to be 7 seasons of this. not sure my head could take that i'm dumbfounded after 10 episodes

7 seasons!!!!  Oh gawd, no way can i cope with all that!  lol

but i helped one person learn how to file share which is legal if he wishes to use it illegally then its upto them same as if one of your MA pupils wants to mug an old lady using his skills than thats upto him

stealing dvd's and cd is illegal and i dont condone anyone for doing that

but file sharing is a legal activity that i think gets a bad press due to kids breaking copyright

infact the porn industry have cottoned onto the file sharing ideal and now release files
to be shared as advertising for products

many film and music companies have actually been leaking  material onto the net in advance to see how popel react to it, the more people downloading it and passing comment shows how successful it may be, recent examples are exorcist the beginning which was completely rewritten after downloaders slated it and the bbc leaked the first episode of the last doctor who series to see how it was going to be recieved

you cant say stealing music is wrong but stealing  a tv series isn't. stealing a film is wrong but stealing a comedy show isn't. it's not up to the consumer / citizen to interpret or pick and choose the laws.

if my student mugs someone I AM PARTLY RESPONSIBLE

that has no bearing on whether of not it's ok to nick a music track though

OK, until this bit, I could see your side of the arguement and maybe was playing a little devils advocate. That said, I can not take this last comment seriously. Go look at the figures from itunes and see how the "singles" market has grown and how record sales in general have grown in the last year or so. As for NO benefits, i am lost for words. I probably have  about 10,000 songs on my computer, I would say well  over 9,500 are legal, over 2,000 are as a result of me downloading a song, borrowing a friends CD etc but listening to it first. I can not accept that there are NO benefits. I agree 100% on the legality side of things with you but I do not think I am doing wrong by downloading a song, listening to it, if i like it buying it, if i dont, deleting it. My guess is that the artists would not object to that either. You buy a sofa, you go and sit in it, you try it out. If its good, you buy.

The major artists suffer, the smaller artists benefit in my opinion. One further thing, as I live in Greece, almost ALL of my music is legally downloaded from itunes. It is so convenient, we dont have that many music shops here anyway, especially the music i like, but still even living in a village in the UK, it has to be easier than going out to the shop to buy it. It is the way forward. They are now taling about download of films instead of buying DVD's (Sony I think) whioch will be the same idea as itunes. I for one will buy from them. (legally, granted)

I think, in summary, maybe we are singing from the shame songsheet basically but disagree on the details........

i say filesharing a free to air tv program isn't illegal no matter what the law says as long as its uploaded in the manner in which the tv company broadcast it

so your now saying that if one of the cadets i trained to fire a rifle becomes a sniper shooting people in the street its my fault?

Is it a full moon tonight?

I downloaded the 2004 WSOP and WSOP Tournament of Champions on bit torrent. It didn't stop me watching it on Challenge or buying a legit DVD version. I can partly see your point Adam, but most downloders buy the stuff as well.

"Howls" :o :o :o :o

It was a full moon last night, does that count?

just to get all legal on you all here but did you know its not actually illegal to download anything from the net (that includes music movies etc, copyrighted or not) what is actually illegal is the UPLOADING of copyrighted material. the main reason that people have been lead to believe its the other way round is because not many people actually go as far to upload things and it scares people outta downloading them. I'm not saying i condone this or not just stating a fact.

Its pretty similair to copyrights on cds etc, for example if you have several hundred albums on disc that are not original then as long as you dont have the covers etc with it you are in no breach of copyright for several stupid reasons. And also if you own the original of anything you are legally entitled to download a backup of this, although this isnt often the case i agree

no, you're missing what I'm saying.

there are NO benefits to the musician from illegal file sharing / downloading

the relatively new legal download phenominon may help musicians.

the singles market has been dying a death long before the piracy was the issue because many people simply buy the LP. when I see a video or hear a song I like I go out and BUY THE ALBUM. I have some albums where I only like one or two songs but I also have many where that gamble has delivered a top class recording. I do think it's wrong to download a song / album and if you like the entire album buy it (most don't they simply burn it) or if they only like half of it, just keep what they like..

I'm not saying it's your fault, Im saying there's an implied responsibility. as a soldier that must surely be reduced but as a MA instructor I must carefully select who I will teach because if one of my guys or girls pushes their thumbs through someones eyes over a spilt pint I am partially to blame. I don't think n armed forces instructor can take blame for misuse of info because you're not at liberty to select your students.

no, 'most' downloaders don't

Lets no go into serious legal arguments here because we all know laws are ridiculous ie its not illegal to take drugs but it is illegal to possess them or sell them, how can you take them if they are not in your possesion? Unless you stole them so they were somebody elses but then could you be done for theft???
All we were interested in at the start of this thread was do we get to see Kates threpnies? If not are they available for viewing in any other televisual media? Previous film/stolen home movie etc?????

OK, I think that is a slight change but either way, I still disagree. As I have already said, I have downloaded a lot of songs illegally (or not as BlueWolf is now saying) but then bought full cd's. That is a significant benefit to the artist because I would not have done otherwsie.
Also, just for clarification, I generally will not download the full album, just a few songs. If i like them or think there is potential, I will get it.
As for whethre the gamble paid off or not in buying it....I knew it would soon come back round to gambling / poker!! Full circle!!! Ha ha. Good debate, I have enjoyed it. Its wrong, but I will use it to benefit me and I believe also benefit the artist. This is fast turning in to the biggest thread in the history of Blonde, lol.
OK a short poll.....
I have taken two votes, RedSimons and mine. We both buy the stuff so, based on that, I can confirm that 100% of people DO INDEED buy the original.
The End

this is why I hate debating this subject. I generally end up me vs the world.

all I'm saying is that everytime you download something you could have bought the knock on effect is that struggling musicians / artists / writers are suffering as a result, many of whom will never reach the masses as aresult.

I blame Ironside for being so helpful, lol.
Adam, seriously, I do agree with MOST of your arguement.

I personally know many people who claim to down load and then, if they like it buy.

I also know for a fact they have dozens of films and hundreds of tracks stored. not saying you and simon are the same, but it's very common

any way I'm done with this because it really does get me wound up and I don't want to alienate myself from blondites I normally get on fine with.

I don't actually think this is the right place for this discussion and I don't think it should be left on the board now we've had our lively debate.

Agreed, many people do. I can only do my part. I dont think you are alienating yourself at all Adam, I have full respect for your views and comments. Maybe, just maybe, this thread will be beneficial as it may make people think twice about doing it.
I enjoyed the discussion.

the people that download and never buy would proberly never buy anyway

they would tape it off the radio or video it of the tv

but they normally never buy the stuff

the people that would buy the stuff normally buy more than they would of

because they download stuff if they like it they buy it if they dont like it they normally delete

and they normally end up buying more because they downliad stuff they would never normally try


but personally i hate modern music and unless someone finds a way to bring elvis back fromn the dead i wont be downloading or buying any

May be completely out of line this but imo struggling artists/writers etc should maybe consider a different calling in life. I am not having a go at you here Adam and please dont take offence to what I say but if you arent successful could it not mean you aren't any good? I may be just playing devils advocate here but I think the people who get hurt most by Illegal downloads are the huge artists that are downloaded in the 1000s or even millions. The small yocal/focal bands who sell there stuff after gigs arent likely to be searched out on download sites are they? The eminems/michael jacksons of the world may lose a few million quid but they can afford it (and one of the 2 doesnt deserve his liberty never mind any cash but dont get me started on that one). Just my twopenneths worth anyway (it really is like THM on here tonight lol)

ps i have edited the posts that have links to sites that may/may not be legal of health and safety grounds

NO she DOESN'T get her TATAS out!!!!

wrong

the people it hurts are the people trying to break in because the big companies wont sign them up because they dont want to take risks

DAMMMMMMMM

no way have you alienated yourself adam, its good that you feel you can voice your opinions in this way and thatsw hat makes us all unique , our opinions and what makes the forum so good as we can alld ebate something like this like adults (well some of us)

I agree with most of your argument as i'm sure most of us here do

oh and no Ariston we cant see kates bits in anythin else as her only other tv appearance was as a corpse on canadian tv oh and a few adverts

Just have to wait for the "stolen" home sex tape just before her first feature film/album comes out then.

I dont think it will catch on anyway, been downloading for about 2 or 3 hours, only anoth 16days and 9 hours left. Seriously.
Cant agree Ariston, most of my favourite bands, nobody has ever heard of. In fact, apart from The Killers and Muse, I am not sure anybody would have heard of any of them.
Ironside, who is Elvis? Is it a film start or music?  8)

Ok i admit it I was just trying to wind up a few people and liven the thread up, its been awful quiet tonight on here dont you think. Adam didn't bite and every credit to him for that  ;D

thats because he threw his computer against the wall and broke it.  ;)

lmao,

Adam breathe mate, I was just pushing buttons a little bit thats all.......are his veins supposed to be bulging in his head like that?

Oh well, the last few hours argueing has cost me lots of money, off to Full Tilt to play Poker. ANyone playing online anywhere at the mo and fancy a Sit & Go? Full Tilt, Party or maybe Wm Hill although i cant remeber if i have any money in it

i fanct a SnG was thinking about stars but i might be banned from there

LOL Ironside, either that or lots of gold stars next to your name.
OK, i will start a new thread. Lets play poker now!!

I know we aint gonna see Kates puppies, but what about the pregnant blonde ?  she must flop them out , even if its just to feed the baby :)

nope she don't   lol

bang on the money, though I am on the brink of 'retirement' reckon WSOP bracelet is now more likely than a world tour.

ROFLMAO

You bad bad man  ;D

i suppose i shouldn't mention i get free cable ::) ;D

hmmm perhaps not LOL

oh and jb playing online poker whiles donloading can be a pain as your bandwith gets zapped so your poker room will experience major delays at tiems meaning folding hands when you dont even know it lol

No Kidding BlueWolf. I had a terrible night, getting more frustrated with it then making bad calls.  >:(
On top of that, I wake up this morning hoping to see a healthy increase in the download and i get a message " Scrape Error : Connection Time Out". Ready to kill here.....

Si

I'm gonna PM you!

Wow this went oooooooffffffffffffffff topic! Anyway Im going to watch the final three episodes of the first series tomorrow so I will (not) let you know what happens!

what the hell has internet piracy got to do with POKER, this is a POKER forum, any problems with what anyone does/says on the forum should be taken up with them via PM surely, not posted on the forum.....im here to read about POKER and share POKER....file sharing piracy issues dont have much of a link to poker.....

you'll notice the (non-poker topic) in the title.

If you're not interested in off topic stuff thats your clue  ;)

very good point adam ill give you that one.....but i was interested in the 'lost' program not all this malarky about piracy

don't get me started again

lol.....we have have our 'touchy' subjects mine is POKER  >:(

Jb scrape errors mean nothing really its just that the tracker is running slowly dont worry about it unless your download status drops totally, when downloading files always look for ones with the msot seeds and a decent number of leechers that will eman it will download a lot faster ususally although large files can t take ages now and then

Adam I am totally on your side. Outside of poker I own shops that sell video games & dvd's. The availability of the latest Music & DVD's on the net affects not just the artists but also the retailers (and the margins on DVD's & games has already been crushed by Tesco's and the like). At a market near one of my shops on a Saturday there are stalls making more in one day than I can make in a month by selling pirate DVD'd and music. This money mostly funds the major crime rings all over the world, these people are moving into piracy as it is more cost effective and the sentences are much less than drugs or people smuggling. As long as people think that it is 'ok' to download this stuff murderers and gangs will get richer.
Whoever said it is ok to download TV shows is talking crap. Nearly all TV show are released on DVD so it is no different to copying a film.
Instead of trying to hack the white house, teenage computer geniuses should put their talents to good work and infected every single Bit torrent with a nice computer destroying virus.

Lost is great. :)

Surely if we download these things, then that takes away thier buissness aswell?!?!?!? The way these gangs get richer is if we buy it off them instead of downloading off the net.

Not really. They use these feeds to spread them across the world, saves smuggling loads of discs. One of the market traders was even brazen enough to come into my store and ask if he could use my PC to download a film as he had sold his last copy.

Correct me if i'm wrong... but it isn't actually illegal to download music etc from kazaa, bit torrent and the like. The illegal bit is keeping it for longer than 24 hours or so. Personally, i download loads of stuff, if i like what i hear or see i go out and buy it. If i don't like it i delete it. "Illegal" downloading opens up a whole new market to up and coming bands who may not get any other form of exposure.

There are problems sure, but infecting all users with a virus can cost the 'honest' users thousands.

And murderers aren't really financed by organised crime... murders perpetrated by these sorts of gangs are generally just black market business rivals and users of their illegal services. I'll leave the ethics of that one up to you.

sorry mate but thats way off.

new musicians doing anything other than mainstream music are being crushed out of existance by illegal downloads and record companies taking the safe option when signing new acts. It's still possible to get picked up by some minor record label but I know guys who have done this and earn less than the people they leave behind in their home towns working in McDonalds. if you're downloading illegally or buying anything pirate you're contributing to the watered down pop idol music drivel we're having to endure at the minute. even the 'try before you buy' downloaders are having an impact. that's what a single is for. the band releases a single, if you like it after hearing it on radio / seeing the video you buy the album. if you don't like most of the album you don't buy the 2nd one and the record company drops them. but they've been fairly paid for their creative output.

I did say dont get me started again.

While I'm rantng again DON'T EVER BUY T-SHIRTS / POSTERS OUTSIDE GIGS. artists rarely make any money from touring in respect of ticket sales. once the costs have been covered they often infact make a loss (which used to eb recouped in album sales). Merch however is purely profit for the bands. a small band earns its living from T-shirt sales at gigs.

Surely then this 'gang' would use an FTP server and just transfer them to each other on that?!?!?!? Rather than giving us all copy's.

I know you meant well in the post, but STOP DIGGING!

"new musicians doing anything other than mainstream music are being crushed out of existance by illegal downloads and record companies taking the safe option when signing new acts"

What an oxymoron if ever I saw one. Surely that is EXACTLY WHY downloading is great for new bands. The major lable are narrow minded and only want to sign the next"britney/boy band etc"

Damn, I knew we shouldn't have started this one again.

Agreed about T-Shirts sales etc although, the (major) bands could actually do more to help themselves, £25 / £30 for a t-shirt at some of the bigger events. You know better than any of us the economics of this Adam. Take into account they are dealing in bulk and it is scary.

you're right about them not helping themselves with the price of merch but the fans answer should be dont buy at all, not buy from the theives outside.

You're still missing the point about downloads. perhaps legal downloading is the way forward. personally I still like my 500+ cd collection to keep growing but illegal downloading, whether to burn for personal use, burn to sell or (albeit to a lesser extent) try before you buy is having a crippling effect on new musicians.

there's no point me trying to convert anyone here because luckyblind appears to be the only person to agree with me but copyrigt theft in it's many forms is a criminal offence and I have no sympathy for anyone facing conviction, even these random test cases going through now. You can't decide which forms of theft you are against and which you aren't.

just realised I'm disagreeing with the majority opinion on an internet forum and NOT being torn apart and flamed.

What a wonderful place to be.

ha ha Adam, we are all being objective! (or objectionable!!) I have already said, I agree with practically all you have said, just not the fact it doesnt help the smaller bands and the fact that I think legal downlaods is great and the way forward. To be fair, you have now said it may be.

Sorry Adam, but I can't believe you think try before you buy has a crippling effect (albeit lesser) on new musicians. I've bought countless albums from bands who i've never heard on radio or seen on TV, just because i downloaded a few of their tracks.

But hey, each to their own an all that.

you are not in the majority.

most people who 'try before they buy' end up burning or transfering to ipod and never buy

zzzzzz

i agree Adam, i haven't bought an album in years and years, it is wrong but you will never make me feel guilty about it.
Ian

dude, thats just rude

Do any of the women in "Lost" get their baps out ?  what about the Japanese girl, she is nice :)

(yes this is an attempt to get the thread back on topic)

(yes i am a dirty old git)

(yes i do enjoy the odd glimpse of tittage on the tv)

 ;D

sorry Adam wasn trying to be rude mate just expressing my view on the subject, it seems to me everything just keeps being repeated!

sorry if any offence was caused

Wow, what on EARTH is going on. Started yesterday, this thread runs to 9 pages already. "Lost". What is "Lost", who is "Lost"? (PURLEASE don't tell me, I don't really want to know).

Then it meandered to a Lady's breasts (described in about 11 different terms), thence it got into a seriously interesting & vigorous debate on Piracy. (Great stuff, everyone, some views beautifully expressed).

Then we went all technical - UPLOADING & DOWNLOADING (they not the same thing,then?), bit torrents, seeds, leechers, eh?

It's all as incomprehensible to me as threads on Big Brother - whatever happened to interesting Documentaries - Bridge Building, Steam Locomotive History, The Life Cycle of the Dung Beetle, Patrick Moore and The Sky at Night, how to enter the third last table as Chip Leader & not make the Semi?

jbsc - what's with the new pic/avatar? If you gonna show a woman's pic, lets have one of J.

This thread is clearly extremely popular, but it's a bit of a "WHOOSH" job for me.

Kev dearest, listen very carefully - I shall say zis only once!!!




 ;D :D

But if you want some serious tittage I believe you can download thousands of them on many bit torrent type sites  ;D

Do you need a bigger wooden spoon Ari??   lmfao   :P

Hows the weather in the posh part of blackpool today Trace?

Absolutely bloody gorgeous!!!

So why am I sat in the darn house???

Oh yeah that's right, I'm watching the "packets" on the athletics!!    ;) ;) ;)

You talk about the kids and the husband and that earlier in the thread- surely you should be in the kitchen by now preparing sunday lunch while hubby watches the football?

I'm divorced, and kids are out with their dad for the day.  So no kitchen sink for me!!!  anyway I have a dishwasher  lol

LMFAO  It shows you don't know me m8, anyone who does know me, knows I don't know what or where the kitchen is!  lmao

oooo btw  - I'm nearer Preston than Blackpool, but weather is still bloody gorgeous.

If the kids are out for the day you should have gone to blackpool to play in the sunday afternoon game- gets about 80 runners now and takes a nice ammount for a £5 rebuy comp.

ariston...you're divorced

TraceT...you're divorced

you're local-ish...

how about a little lurrrvvve developing on the forum....? :-* :-* :-* :-*

I would offer (to Trace, not Ariston) but I don't like the sound of the neighbours!!!

Ah Ari, now you pose the problem!

I can't play live.  I have one of those faces that shows every emotion or thought I have, I think you could refer to it as an "open book".  

I also don't have a lot of patience - Ange can confirm this - one of my normal comments on an online table is "bored now", followed by an all-in.  lol

I have only played live once (at Blackpool), and said never again!   lol

I won't even play home games with friends, flushie and Ginge can confirm this too.

My bark is worse than my bite!  lol


Good job I saw Tightend's post b4 sending this one.  lol  I may be divorced, but I have a boyfriend.  lol

kev you won be seeing any naked japanese fesh in lost i'm afriad however the nice KOREAN bird does wear a bikini later on in the series lol

Tightend I am afraid my exwife put me of english women for life ;) I now go for foreign exoctic types (usually lapdancers/strippers admittedly  :o)

Ive seen the entire first series now, fine show, well worth sticking with............. NO BAPS tho.........

And there is a lot of unanswered questions! Roll on Sept 19th for the start of the second series!

is the whole show pre written?
i.e. do they pose questions now that they know the answers to already or making it up as they go along?
Babylon5 was written in a way that they revealed answers slowly throughout the various series but it was designed that way and all series were written years before filming

The main concepts and theroys are all pre written, as in 'the purpose of the island' etc but the development of characters happens from episode to episode.  The guy who created the show, jj abrahms reckons theres enough for 8 series!! even though all he did was write the pilot........

You sure it's the 19th and not the 21st September?

I've seen the Trailer for series 2 and all I can say is "WOW"  bring it on!

where did u see the trailer?

It could be the 21st Im working on word of mouth.............trailer??

I haven't read this thread, but due to the overwhelming popularity of 'Lost', I thought I'd give the show a shot and offer my 2 cents be4 it was too late. Luckily, I managed to find someone who had the first 4 episodes on tape, so I have been able to catch up! Well, almost. I'm on episode 3 at the mo, but... wow, great show!

What an opening sequence. I really wasn't expecting something so high budget. Also, I personally love all the eeriness. I'd be bored stiff otherwise if it was all 'will they be saved or not?'. I was a big Twin Peaks, X-Files, etc fan, so any paranormal element is a welcome addition in my eyes.

Looking forward to watching the rest of the show to find out what the hell's goin on.  :)

ps. There were a lot of good looking people on that plane! 4 or 5 Georg Clooney alikes if I'm not mistaken. But only 2 or 3 hot chicks! That's not fair! Plus, one's pregnant. Bah.

Season 2 starts in the US on september 23rd and is scheduled for summer next year here in blighty and there are some amazing twists next season, the writers reckon its better than season 1.

For those of you not wnating to wait to see the end of season 1 before it finishes airing over here you can buy the full dvd set from any american website as its just been released retail over in the US

Seeing as you all seem to like US shows a fair bit.

Check out "over there" its a new show on FOX that follows a group of soldiers in the Iraq war, its quite simply awsome!!! There have been 5 episodes so far.

I just found a trailer for season 2 of LOST hidden on the www.oceanic-air.com (http://www.oceanic-air.com) website, that site has got spoilers on it tho peeps so be warned.

Nothing sexier than making love to a heavily pregnant woman. It's even sexier still if the baby is yours.....!

(I know I shouldn't help this thread go down this road any further but what the heck!)

It reminds me of a quote from the Coupling series when talking about this subject, chap says "No way, I couldn't, it's like it's already occupied"

Well like a good curry it helps induce the labour! Plus the missus tells me her orgasms are 'just amazing' when about to drop.

hmmmm maybe I've lowered the tone... nah!

The link to the trailer is saved on my lappy, it's something like lost links.net


lol  yeah it is  here ya go    http://lostlinks.net/ (http://lostlinks.net/)

seen all of season 1 quite a while ago, but how are we gonna see season 2 when it comes out? anyone know of any good internet sites?

The Wall, have you cracked any of the other codes on the oceanic website??? tehres some very good things on there.

How diverse has this topic become?? from innocent tv show discussion to piracy to breasts and now shagging preganant women?? ewwwwwwww although like curry it induces labour( well it did with my first lol)

ok back to lost how many shows were the in series 1 i have 25 i think and another show called lost -s1- lost the journy is that the lot?

I live in the USA right now and have seen this show since it started, infact it is on right now, i'm affraid i have some bad news for you guy's

She don't ever get the mod's and rocker's OUT.

 we can only hope and pray this will change at some point in the future  :o

Ironside, yep there is 25 episodes, sometimes 24&25 are together as an hour and a half special tho. Lost the journey is just a 'making off' that they slipped in between episodes 21 & 22.

Yeah bluewolf I've seen most of the hidden messages through the source code and Ive been to the other website that it takes you to. The forum on the other website is pretty cool, it reminds you about what the characters know about each other and it gives you some nice previews MONSTER SPOILERS tho.

I think I'm a week behind, but I've just watched the one with Said and that demented French bird.

Good to see the show's picking up pace now. All that happened i nthe whole of the last episode, was that the totty had a bit of an asthma attack.

Any1 else still watching?

lost interest a bit I must admit. Still be watching tomorrow though.

That reminds me I haven't watched episode 3 of Series 2 yet, and episode 4 will be up on Thursday.  Grrrrrr

Jane?  What are you thinking about the second series up to now?

I Bought the first season on DVD from play.com but struggling to fin where to download the new oens from. I checked on a few sites but so many misleading titles...help! I need more Evageline Lilly please!

i started watching it but it's just ssssssssssssssoooooooooooooooooooooooo dull!!
nothing happens, an entire episode of the doc imagining his dead dad in a bush......jjjjjjjeeeeeeezzzzzz!!

Stick with it guys - someone brought me back the DVD's from Vegas last week and I've just spent the weekend getting through the rest of Series 1.  (Did 5 episodes last night alone, after work!) Its worth watching.

Problem is I'm now having to download Series 2 episodes to satisfy what is becoming an ever increasing addiction!  The more I watch, the more I want to watch.

Sheriff

does anyone find these shows run and run and will never end and get so contrived that what was a great story vanishes...................Then happy ending.
Xfiles, dark angel, they all went the same way. So i just avoided it, that way i won't be dissapointed when it ends.

Simon

POTUK!!!!  Did you ever accept my invite?  If not, they would have revoked it, you need to PM me to ask for another.  The are definitely on there.

T

i'm well in to this as well, but not sure where to download the new stuff.... is potuk a site where you can get them?  i ordered the dvd, but did so from a dodgy site and it never turned up!  doh!

POTUK is a torrent site.  You best PM me about this rivered as it's not something I'm happy discussing on here.

Yeah! some other peeps that are addicted to LOST.

Really get excited watching the 2nd series it just gets better and better.

Trace, loving series 2 (of course, i was never in doubt it would be as good) In fact I would go as far to say I think it's better than the first. Finally we are able to start piecing some bits together!

yup season 2 rocks , although missed the alst 2 episodes due to moving and my new job but i'll catch up this weekend methinks

there great will get 4 wen i get in from work at 6am  ;D
il tell u wat uve missed if u like hun hehehehe >:D

Didn't any1 see that Kate lass in her panties recently?

LOL check Jammers thread on page 1 mate ;)

 ;applause;

Looks like we were thinking along the same lines.  :D Good to see we're focusing on the plot.

That filly has a lovely body.

I do hope they go back for another dip.

Is it just me, or are they starting to forget that a preganant girl has been kidnapped and there is a killer on the loose.


Juts like they forgot about the polar bear in the jungle.

it's total cack!!
swimming was good though!!  :P

WEEEEEEEEP i forgot to watch it last night...is it repeated during the week anyone know??

strange, i had time to watch it and play a couple of headsup games :)up

Watched episode 5 of season 2 earlier, disapointed to see at the end it wont be on for another 3 weeks!

OOOOOOOO  :blonde: read that a couple of times before it sunk in. GGGGGGRRRRRR I am so going to get u ifm

oooOOOOooo...........get her!!

:-) like i said..revenge is sweet...you got me on a bad day

Sunday 18:35 Channel 4  ;D

Ali

I missed this Wednesdays episode too :(   

And I heard Kate gets butt naked :)

Thanks for info Ali!

No problemo

I am a fan of LOST and would hate to miss an episode - so I make sure that if I am gonna miss one, I know when it's going to be repeated !

Ali

whats going on in american TV 3 fudgeing weeks
how am i going to keep the missus shut up for 3 weeks   ( any decent replys will be helpfull )
all i get just now is ... when are we going to see the next one ..what if ... do you think .. do you remember .. if that happened .. why cant ..
AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

ITS GOING TO BE A LONG 3 WEEKS  :pop:

Really enjoying it at the moment. Just watched the episode on sky last night, was thoroghly impressed.

It's about time one of the main characters died, but what was in that secret compartment that Loch found?! Argh! Guess I'll just have to wait.

Thought the Loch episode was cool. He's one of the stronger characters, probably more interesting than most of the others combined.

Not too sure about my purgatory theory anymore.

All very exciting.

NO SPOLIERS PLS.  - that would really get my goat.

Is LOST on Sky now? Have Channel 4 lost the rights?

E4

I'm where you are and have no info for spoliers but..... Purgatory adds up. Loch can now walk. Jack sees his dead father. they all have unfinished business on this plane of exisitance! I'm sure thats it. the 'monster' is just delivering them to hell. havn't seen anyone go to heaven yet though? thats my theory anyway.

The producers have said it has nothing to do with heaven or hell or purgatory!

Guess again guys - I'm up to Episode 8 of Series 2, Ep9 still to watch and Ep 10 to get tomorrow.

It's gripping and I think Series 2 is much better.
I'm where you are and have no info for spoliers but..... Purgatory adds up. Loch can now walk. Jack sees his dead father. they all have unfinished business on this plane of exisitance! I'm sure thats it. the 'monster' is just delivering them to hell. havn't seen anyone go to heaven yet though? thats my theory anyway.
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From what I've seen, they all done something a bit wrong or slighlty iffy, which would explain the purgatory theory.

Jack turned over his pops.
The Korean fella was a gangster.
The Korean lass deceived her hubby.
Soya is a murderer.
The foxy minx robbed a bank.
The preggers bird was gonna give up her kid.
Charlie was a junkie.
Sayid was a torturer.
The two youngsters were courting, even though they were step-sister/brother.


Not sure about Locke or Hurley tho.

Walt confuses me too. Bit wierd how he was some sort of satanic kid with that bird flying into the window and the polar bear appearing when he read the book. Haven't quite linked all that together yet.

Plus Hurley and those numbers got my head spinning last week.


I think Locke is the key.  ::)

I have avoided all spoilers and internet sites about lost so it's just my opinion! I don't care what the producers say! they must be liars! so are you TraceT! lalalalalalalalalala my hands are on my ears and i cant heeeear you!

cia experiment on the human condition?
tell me please, er no wait dont, arrrrgh stupid program.

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TraceT - no spoliers!  :o

I've only read the first line.

Maybe God crashed the plane so these survivors could sort out their unfinished business.

eg. Jack has now learnt how to let go.
     The father has learnt how to communicate with his kid, etc.
      Hurley needs to solve the mystery of that curse.
     etc

I don't undertsand your theories on Locke and purgatory.

My first assumption was that it was purgatory and they were in a different world or dimension, hence that is why Lcoke could walk.

But now he is struggling again, I've become confused and questioned the theory.

argh!!!

What about the links between the characters?

Locke worked for box company owned by Hurley.

Drs father met Sawyer in the bar prior to him shooting that guy.

And. what is the deal with Ethan? Where did he come from?

Good point on the boxes. I forgot about that.

Yeah, maybe we'll find out that all the characters are linked somehow.


Not sure about Ethan. They tend to go back to stuff after a few weeks, just like they did in Twin Peaks. Maybe we'll find out where he came from later on.

Btw, those dreams people have now and then are kinda creepy. Remember that one the preggers girl had about Locke and the cot. Why was Locke in that dream?!

Argh!!! again.  ;tk;

I can' t find season 2 episode 10 on any torrent sites

Looks like it wasn't shown in the USA last night  >:(

Ali

Episode 10 is not on untill the 14th so good luck with that!!

As for the producers, they lied about the ending of the end of series 1.

Actually Episode 10 won't be aired til 11th of January in the States.

ah yeah i knew that, then i went to confirm on abc and realised its an old episode.

Tvtome.com gives u all the info to anyone intrestead.

yeh totally cool show......have managed to download the 1st 2 series....had me hooked from beginning...for those of u tha tlike a good drama..threshold on sky is also very good...

Thanks that saves me losing my rag not being able to find it.

Last 2 Episodes (on E4) have been a bit boring don't you think?

I love the program but they really bored me. Next weeks episode looks like it's gonna be a cracker tho, the very last seconds of the last episode reassured me that I should watch it next week.

I had just started getting into it <sniff, sniff>

I sky+'ed the the last Threshold .. I think it's great stuff.

I'll have to download it i suppose.......................................bloody cable

yep threshold shaping up nicely to b very good..have just finished 1st series of lost.....gonna start on series 2 tonite lol