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Title: am i right to hand out torrents of abuse? omaha- i hate it
Post by: brado on July 26, 2006, 02:34:32 AM
------HAND 1------
Game #2007444803: Omaha PL (200/400) - 2006/07/26 - 02:13:24 (UK)
Table "STT 3129367 - 1" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 2: DoTheMath (949 in chips)
Seat 4: tcleaner (3571 in chips)
Seat 7: micklodge (3006 in chips)
Seat 10: Jane17051 (2474 in chips)
DoTheMath: posts small blind 200
tcleaner: posts big blind 400
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to tcleaner [9c Jc Ad As]
micklodge: raises to 1200
Jane17051: folds
DoTheMath: folds
tcleaner: raises to 3571 and is all-in
micklodge: is all-in 1806
Returned uncalled bets 565 to tcleaner
----- FLOP ----- [5s 6s 4d]
----- TURN ----- [5s 6s 4d][9h]
----- RIVER ----- [5s 6s 4d 9h][7h]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
tcleaner: shows [9c Jc Ad As] (A Pair of Aces, Nine high)
micklodge: shows [3h 7s Ah 3s] (A Straight, Seven high)
micklodge collects 6212 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 6212 Main pot 6212 Rake 0
Board [5s 6s 4d 9h 7h]
Seat 2: DoTheMath (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: tcleaner (big blind) showed [9c Jc Ad As] and lost
Seat 7: micklodge showed [3h 7s Ah 3s] and won (6212) with A Straight, Seven high
Seat 10: Jane17051 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

ok, i'm still not really getting omaha and i realise raising with aa pre flop early on can get you in all sorts of trouble. but surely i can't fold aaj9 here, and surely he can't call my reraise with a733 and then have the cheek to win. £1 in the bad beat box for me... i'm having my first losing month of the year and just want to get it off my chest  ;technophobe;


Title: Re: am i right to hand out torrents of abuse? omaha- i hate it
Post by: Royal Flush on July 26, 2006, 04:05:36 AM
You did nothing wrong, and keep the faith we have played many times before (now i know who tcleaner is!!) and you are a good player, results follow good play.


Title: Re: am i right to hand out torrents of abuse? omaha- i hate it
Post by: boldie on July 26, 2006, 09:45:59 AM
I don't mean to cause up a stink here..but Idon't really mind his call pre-flop.

Sure you have the pocket aces and the 9-j suited. but he also has a pocket pair (albeit small) and a nut flush possibility. I personally quite like seeing a flop with a hand like that. Although in a cash game he ofcourse never would have called your pre-flop bet. In tournament play I quite like it.

you did nothing wrong though but, like you said. reraising pocket aces...(especially without a nutflush draw) will get you into all sorts of bother in Omaha.


Title: Re: am i right to hand out torrents of abuse? omaha- i hate it
Post by: Royal Flush on July 26, 2006, 09:53:38 AM

you did nothing wrong though but, like you said. reraising pocket aces...(especially without a nutflush draw) will get you into all sorts of bother in Omaha.

If you get it in preflop its fine.

Agreed in a deeper game you really are in a tought spot on most flops.


Title: Re: am i right to hand out torrents of abuse? omaha- i hate it
Post by: I, Zimbra on July 26, 2006, 03:07:40 PM
There's a saying, something like - "with AAxx you're a favourite against any other non- AA hand in Omaha, preflop"-  but albeit probably only a slight favourite (e.g. 55% or so) rather than the monster 80%+ favourite that AA is against any other hand in Hold'Em.

So getting it all-in preflop is definitely the right move, but you also have to realise that there's no way he's going to pass for almost 3-1 odds, so you're just going to have to accept that you have the better end of a coinflip prospect and sweat it out.


Title: Re: am i right to hand out torrents of abuse? omaha- i hate it
Post by: Table Manners on July 29, 2006, 04:50:54 AM
I haven't got any advice on this as I'm an omaha novice. Thought I'd just say that you are 63.09% to win this hand. Not great odds, but you're ahead.