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Title: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Teacake on July 28, 2006, 11:18:30 PM
I fancied a wee change from my usual Holdem game so thought I'd dabble in a bit of 7CS as I've never played it before.

I watched a .50/1 table for 5 mins picked up the gist of what was going on & sat down with $25 to try to learn the game a wee bit.

Pre 4th street I'm playing pairs, 3 suited & also running cards (no more than one gapped).

Is this a sound starting point? I haven't read any 7CS theory so any advice would be appreciated.

If this is utter nonsense feel free to wade in as well  :D


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Graham C on July 28, 2006, 11:20:50 PM
I was thinking about 7c Stud earlier and would be grateful for any pointers on this too.


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Colchester Kev on July 29, 2006, 12:14:52 AM
speak to booder, he is the daddy.


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: jbsc7769 on July 29, 2006, 09:50:05 AM
whilst i am loath to give any advice as, in the great scheme of things I am still a novice, of recent time I have made most of my money at seven card stud. I would say that poker basics should get you through. From my experience, there are a lot of beginners out there who do NOT appear to pay attention to the cards on display. a great example being a recent hand when i got a call on seventh street from a player who had concealed aces, I had two pair on view. Clearly hey were not looking at my cards (even though i actually hit a boat) I do play a lot of draws and am fairly agggressive for what it is worth. I don't want to tempt fate but, so far so good. Good luck to you. It is a great game.


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: AdamM on July 29, 2006, 10:48:47 AM
sounds about right as a basic strategy I think.
three suited cards
three straighting cards (I'd say no gap)
any rolled up pair with a high card showing
a high pair if one of the pair is showing
trips (obviously)

if you can't beat whats showing run away.

Im sure there's more to it for the expert player.

Isnt there an old joke about stud players being fatter than other poker players because they spend so long sitting still and waiting for a starting hand they have to occupy themselves with other things like eating and drinking.


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Boba Fett on July 29, 2006, 11:14:32 AM
Chip Reese's chapter in Super System 1 is a great starting point.  If you're entering a pot, you want to raise on the 1st betting round and try to thin out the field, obviously the showing cards will be the main indicator of the strength of your hand.  The next round of betting should also be an exercise in thinning out the field and then you should have an indication on what type of hand/draw you have and how strong it is.  If you're flushing or on a straight draw you want to have high cards as you could also win with hitting pairs.  Try to keep an eye on what cards have been on show especially cards that could block your straight or flush.

Ive also noticed that a LOT of lower limit players online will call down to the end with nothing hoping to hit a pair so a bet at the very end can usually force a fold.

Not the best but a decent start


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: The Truth on July 29, 2006, 11:34:30 AM
speak to booder, he is the daddy.

He even looks like a seven card stud player  rotflmfao rotflmfao


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: booder on July 29, 2006, 12:46:41 PM
speak to booder, he is the daddy.

He even looks like a seven card stud player  rotflmfao rotflmfao


so thats what she meant    lol




.  Try to keep an eye on what cards have been on show


if you can't beat whats showing run away.


these are probably the two best bits of advice


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Teacake on July 29, 2006, 10:13:15 PM
Thanks guys, all decent stuff  :)up


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: leighton_87 on July 30, 2006, 09:19:48 PM
sounds about right as a basic strategy I think.
three suited cards
three straighting cards (I'd say no gap)
any rolled up pair with a high card showing
a high pair if one of the pair is showing
trips (obviously)

if you can't beat whats showing run away.

Im sure there's more to it for the expert player.

Isnt there an old joke about stud players being fatter than other poker players because they spend so long sitting still and waiting for a starting hand they have to occupy themselves with other things like eating and drinking.

 :goodpost:

I just entered a seven card stud MTT tournament, using this advice.  It worked well, my first tournament and i made the cash.  few players enter these tournaments and even less actually know what they are doing.  If you could learn to play to a decent standard then i imagine these would be very profitable and also there're less bingo players and not quickly increasing blinds that turn it into a crapshoot. 


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: leighton_87 on July 30, 2006, 09:50:05 PM
Currently chip leader heads up :)


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: AdamM on July 30, 2006, 10:26:28 PM
nice one, how'd it finish?

do I get a % ?  :D


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: leighton_87 on July 30, 2006, 10:44:55 PM
Finished second for $60ish from a $10 buy in.  Not a bad return for my first seven card stud experience. Should have won it but outdrawn twice.  Can't complain though.

As for your cut.... when I win my WSOP bracelet in seven card stud I'm sure I could buy you a drink  :D
Might be a few years off yet though, it's two before I can ever think about entering.

Thanks again for the advice  :cheers:

Andrew


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Teacake on July 30, 2006, 10:55:39 PM
Nice one mate well done.  :)up

What site did you play the tourney as its just cash I've played so far?


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: leighton_87 on July 30, 2006, 11:52:03 PM
Thanks very much.

I played it on Ladbrokes, from what I can see they only do $1 or $10 tournaments both pot limit. which is perfect for me but others might find the buy-in a bit low.  I enjoyed the tournament and might give it another try soon.  I know pokerroom also do seven card stud torunaments with a $20 buy-in.  I'm sure theres others out there too.


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 31, 2006, 02:24:33 AM
7CS is P155


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: bleed_crimson on July 31, 2006, 03:10:55 PM
Stud is my favurite cash game to play, you wanna play stud hi/lo though, i think its better


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Teacake on July 31, 2006, 09:19:07 PM
7CS is P155

Always nice to get insight from our resident 4 tabling fiver STT expert 

Dave by any chance were you P155ED when you posted  :D


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 31, 2006, 09:49:06 PM
7CS is P155

Always nice to get insight from our resident 4 tabling fiver STT expert  rotflmfao

Dave by any chance were you P155ED when you posted  :D

why do you find that fact i only play £5 STT's at present, funny? its it not high stakes enough for Blondes latest 7CS specialist?


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Teacake on July 31, 2006, 10:12:28 PM
7CS is P155

Always nice to get insight from our resident 4 tabling fiver STT expert 

Dave by any chance were you P155ED when you posted  :D

why do you find that fact i only play £5 STT's at present, funny? its it not high stakes enough for Blondes latest 7CS specialist?

I don't find it funny. What I find funny is you coming on the board blootered making pointless posts & taking the hump when someone slags you for it, especially someone you know!

I realise now the  rotflmfao smiley looks as if I'm ripping the P155 so I'll take it off, sorry if I offended you ya big tube.

 :-*


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Scottish Dave on July 31, 2006, 10:29:44 PM
7CS is P155

Always nice to get insight from our resident 4 tabling fiver STT expert 

Dave by any chance were you P155ED when you posted  :D

why do you find that fact i only play £5 STT's at present, funny? its it not high stakes enough for Blondes latest 7CS specialist?

I don't find it funny. What I find funny is you coming on the board blootered making pointless posts & taking the hump when someone slags you for it, especially someone you know!

I realise now the  rotflmfao smiley looks as if I'm ripping the P155 so I'll take it off, sorry if I offended you ya big tube.

 :-*

nah mate dont be daft, i was only joking back thats why i called you 7CS specialist, i know nowt about 7CS thats why i posted that post, and yes i was Blotto, i was out drinking in the park Ville in Blantyre, my  first night out in Blantyre since i moved here, bar that sly pint in Stonefield before CinCins


Title: Re: 7 Card Stud - Basic Strategy
Post by: Teacake on August 07, 2006, 10:58:55 PM
Woo Hooo!!!!

Just won a 7CS Sng at my 2nd attempt (came 3rd to cash in my 1st the other night)

It was only a $6 Party effort but I'm chuffed to bits, I think I must be a natural at this game  :D

Thanks for all the advice so far  :)up