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Title: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: TightEnd on August 03, 2006, 11:17:31 AM
A player raised to 4K, and John Gale called. The other player thought Gale folded, and flipped over pocket queens: QQ.

A floorperson rules that the hand will continue, and Gale can act knowing exactly what his opponent held.

The flop came K95, and Gale bet 10K.


You hold the QQ...what are you thinking?


I am sorry, I do not know chipstacks, blind levels etc at this stage


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: leighton_87 on August 03, 2006, 11:26:59 AM
Assuming I'm not low in chips I would think, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have the king but I'm going to have to fold.  With only 4k invested in the pot your going to look very silly if you call this and he has the king.

If I was the short stack I think I'd close my eyes and push and pray for the fold, no need to flat call because he might end up hitting his hand later.

Interested to see what others say


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: ifm on August 03, 2006, 12:00:25 PM
Have to fold and curse himself for not paying attention.


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: Trix on August 03, 2006, 12:02:32 PM
If he could beat QQ wouldnt he slowplay it? cos he knows exactly when and if he's been outdrawn.


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: mjrevie on August 03, 2006, 12:04:50 PM
It would depend on any reads i could get plus how many chips i have compared to the pot. The thing is, if Gale hits a monster, he bets, hoping to look like a steal. He hits nothing, he bets, knowing its almost impossible for the guy to call him. He is no longer playing his own hand, he is playing the other guys hand. If i'm deep stacked i would fold and just put it down to me being an idiot.

On a side issue, I assume this is a real hand. If so, is this a standard ruling to let the hand continue? Always thought that if that happened, his hand is mucked and Gale should automatically take the pot?


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: Jon MW on August 03, 2006, 12:06:09 PM
If he could beat QQ wouldnt he slowplay it? cos he knows exactly when and if he's been outdrawn.

Or bet on the assumption that you're opponent would assume that you're bluffing.



Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: TightEnd on August 03, 2006, 12:09:41 PM

On a side issue, I assume this is a real hand. If so, is this a standard ruling to let the hand continue? Always thought that if that happened, his hand is mucked and Gale should automatically take the pot?


its a real hand from day2b

it is a standard ruling too, certainly wherever I play this is the rule


I'll let you know what Gale had later


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on August 03, 2006, 03:41:32 PM
tell us now!


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: TightEnd on August 03, 2006, 04:10:55 PM
The QQ mateyboy passed

Gale flashed 66, and won a 40k pot


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: Ironside on August 03, 2006, 05:46:39 PM
40k pot?

i thought the raise was 4k so the pot would of been about 10k


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: mikkyT on August 03, 2006, 05:54:59 PM
If he could beat QQ wouldnt he slowplay it? cos he knows exactly when and if he's been outdrawn.

The person who has revealed his hand cannot bet, he can only call. (or fold)


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: mikkyT on August 03, 2006, 05:56:41 PM
40k pot?

i thought the raise was 4k so the pot would of been about 10k

Antes plus blinds, not to  mention any early action in the hand from limps/small raises.


Title: Re: Interesting WSOP Situation last night
Post by: Royal Flush on August 03, 2006, 09:07:43 PM
Antes plus blinds, not to  mention any early action in the hand from limps/small raises.

One of the funniest posts of all times.