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Just been named as .... John Terry.

A good choice IMO ...passion passion passion !!!!

The wrong choice IMO, I think Terry is more selfish than Gerrard, he cant carry a team and he does not show as much passion.

He is a good captain non the less.

hes more selfish lol how you work that one out?????????

doesnt show as much passion?????????? how u work that one out??????????

rooky may i ask your team please???????

dont think it should matter who is captain playing for england they should all play like captains

eh?? 

The wrong choice IMO too but still a good one.

wrong choice wirth your red glasses on  rotflmfao

As captain and vice captain I think they will work well together...for the first time in a long time I agree with an England Manager

Newcastle, which actually puts me in a neutral position unlike some Terry backers! Like I say he is stil a good captain no doubt, I just think Gerrard has an edge for the reasons I stated.

i appreciate your nuetralism but dont understand your claims. please explain....


gerrard more passionate than terry?

gerrard a better leader than terry?

gerrard carries a team better than terry?

terry is selfish?

please explain especiallyu the last one that baffles me .

It's the kind of decision that most managers would both hate to have to make, but also love to be in this position - Terry or Gerrard? "Do I go for this really great club captain or the other really great club captain? Damn, it's a toughie... "

Sadly, there can only be one - and Terry as Captain with Gerrard as Vice Captain seems like a good compromise. From what I've read today it sounds like Gerrard will be given plenty of opportunities in the coming campaign to lead the team out.

Win-win for England.

Replace "Terry" with "anyone" and we're there! :)

LOL three of the four quotes actually fit what i said! but...

1) Gerrad has far more passion in his interviews and personality, Terry must have takne lessons off shearer for his post match interview.
2) I at no point stated he was a better leader, I think thats impossible to judge! Notthing between them fr motivating there club team mates.
3) what need clarifying about this? Gerrard carried Liverpool to a chamions league, Terry, partly because of his position, cant and doesnt do this
4) I didnt say he was selfish, just more selfish than Gerrard. I suppose I'm aluding to his off the field antics as well as some of his on field arrogance, Gerrard is TEAM through and through and a great role model.

That really doesnt say a lot for the players round him then though!

Pele stood out in a 1970 Brazil team... ;)

Standing out isnt the same carrying a team!

Well the Liverpool team doesn't need to be carried as much as it did two years ago. The Sissoko-Alonso partnership is improving all the time. Two years ago we needed carrying and he did it.

Yep

Christ, this is a funny forum! There was only one person who could have been chosen for England Captaincy! And Mclaren picked him! End of..

I cant believe that even the most blinkered football fan would geniunly believe that, I really can't. Even most the mugs interview outside stamford bridge have the sense to acknowledge that!  Gerrad has never been in any ammater porn, or been arrested in a nightclub, or abused passengers on september 11th..... and we get done for thinking the sun shines out of shearer's arse! wake up and at least post something you geniunely believe, or is remotely truthful!

who gives a flying f*** what he has done in the past off the field.

strong leaders learn from mistakes and become better leaders.

its what he does in football that matters, he is a born leader and will prove it!

Being the England captain is a lot more than what they do on the pitch

i agree but what they do on it is most important in my opinion.
john terry is a family man who has learnt from his mistakes.


maybe they should give it to you.you,ve obviously never made mistakes. ;)

I have shot three or four of your posts down in this thread... yet you just keep coming back with more 'rubbish'.

How it gets on to me i dont know...

Besides I'm a striker and Captains should really play at the back or in the middle!

sorry mr perfect  :D

i just hate people that rake up peoples past. do gooders that have never done wrong.
 if a persons done wrong, accepted his punishment, shown remorse, apologised and learnt from it then why shouldnt they progress in life without the devil on thier back?

we will agree to disagree. im sorry you find my opinion so rubbish!

imo england have the best man for the job.

and you ll notice that i have added smileys to my posts which shows that my comments were tongue in cheek regards you and were not meant as flaming.

yours on the other hand have no smileys so to some may be deemed as flaming.

maybe we could have a chat at bb3 if you feel so strong about your rubbish comments!  ;D

well get your kit on and turn out at the footie at bb3. :D

Good choice.  I'm a fan of great defenders being captains.  They can see what's going on on the whole pitch and lead from the back.  Terry shows passion and pride in the team (I know Gerrard does too) and has plenty of years left in him.

I'm fine to agree to disagree.

I think using the word 'rubbish' in a psot to you can be classed as tongue in cheek without the need for a smiley, that could be the only comment of mine possibly related to flaming!

I disagree with the stuff about peoples past. Yes people should be given second chances but no they can not expect to be free from the shackles - that is part of the deterant to prevent it! Like I say, there has to be a price on the wages they get paid - one of which is the need to be a role model for young kids. I noticed a piece in the Daily Mail at lunch but didnt get chance to read it - looked like it ran along what I have been saying.

End of the day I think he will do a great job, my opinion is obviouslty different from yours in who would be the better out of him and Gerrard. I do think throughout I have had an open and fairly accurate view!

Sadly it looks like I wont be able to make BB3, the joys of weekend college begin that weekend and the boss man isnt keen to let me take the weekday versions for the course on 9th and 10th Sept. But the next one after that I will bring my kit!

;iagree; :goodpost: If Beckham gets dropped I'll start to worry England might win something ;)

Nah no need to worry! New England manager's first decision to elect a captain that won't be a certain starter instead of the inspirational genius that is Gerrard. Were safe for a few years yet!!






>waits for sound of the ITB crew splintering into pieces< ;ifm; rotflmfao

I'm not 100% sure I'm happy about Beckham being dropped.  Whether you like him or not, the man can play and has been a magnificant ambassador for English football over the years.  I know he hasn't perhaps played to his full potential recently, but he is without a doubt, world class.   

On the other hand, he's what, 31 now?  and we do need to be building a squad for the future and Beckham is almost certainly not going to be in the next World Cup so perhaps it's time for him to go. 

I'd like it to be by mutual consent rather than him simply being dropped by McClaren - I think we (England Football) owe him more than that.

Because he is a role model to millions of kids. The England captain should be squeaky clean IMO.

Adrian Mutu has shown remorse and accepted his punishment but that doesn't mean I'd want him as a national captain!

Does it really matter who is the captain?

What does he actually do?

He has to be good at coinflips.


So not me at the moment.  :D

We could do a telephone vote and call in World Cup Idol, its the thing of the future  :D

He has to divide the split pots when they are playing triple flop omaha hi lo declare on the team bus.

Terry is quite bad at reading lows so gerrard is the obvious choice.

I wouldn't trust a scouse to do that.

good job gerrard wasnt made captain with a wife for a thug!!!! a captain has to be squeeky clean  rotflmfao

i think youll find i have the copyright for the word rubbish on this site ;D

This will be used as evidence if you lot do achieve anything now - The Jocks knew you needed to do it long ago  :D

Because Gerrard's wife would be Captain???  :D

Would make the team showers a little more popular!

Amen.

What about Steve McClaren?

The guy comes in, the first thing he does is get all the 'deadwood' out of the squad (James, Campbell and Beckham) and looks to build a new/younger squad, not built on reputations.

Becks was a good player, but his back has gone and he isn't half the player he was a couple of seasons back.

;applause; Steve McClaren ;applause;

I must admit I didnt think he'd do it.

Beckham is still in the best 22 english players but if he wants to build for the future thats fiar enough - If he can get back to his form of a couple of years ago I'd bring him back.

I agree Beckham is still in the best 22 in England however it's not very likely Beckham will still be around in 2 years so why bother asking him to help qualify?

Good choice by McLaren IMO. Get a squad together that is likely to feature at the championships itself.

Beckham's game has never been about pace, which is the one skill that seems to fall as players enter the 30's. A certain Teddy Sherringham went on well into the 30's at international level. IMO Beckham may well still be in the top english 22 at the next world cup (he'll have just turned 34 i think) but I suppose if he goes with Gerrard as first choice and Lennon/Pennant as cover for the right side it will make more sense.

I have never been a big Beckham fan, but he did carry that England team not so long back and should have been dropped with a bit more dignity IMO.