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played in a live pot limit mtt last night...my 1st,and damn the betting structure is confusing...but then most things are for me..lol

even managed a FT spot and a few bob back

but they say PL poker is the hardest form of the 3??

I havent worked out why

wot are the main stragetic differences between limit,pot limit and no-limit?

that will get the grey matter going on a sunday....lo

where were u playing?

tried the wabash club cambo...my 1st time there...


would have went to cins,but i'm not into cash games...


and cant play live thru the week..the sweathouse takes all my time....

charlie is it? i was 2 to ur right on the first table with the gey hoody. i went out on the bubble to the only player who had me out me out chipped. where did u finish? did u stay about to see who won?

aye ,lol...a proper charlie


cambo i always thought u were sid's son


ur andy right?


i came 7th..slowplaying my KK(wrong i know),only to let the CL ( the boy with a chipped front tooth ),to catch the nut flush ( 3 spades on the flop )

couldn't get away from it even after an ace came on turn ( was low anyway )


left after that,but the CL took away my last 30k....and he must have had around 120k and looking good


ul on the bubble

 :D no no sids son is damon, all my mates call me cambo been that way since school days and folk at cincins know me as cambo cos of this screen name .people round there know me as davie.

that was chris who put you out, reason he had so many was he took all mine the xxxx  :D

congrats on the cash tho first time there, it is a bit diff playing pot-limit but i like it just means you have to bet properly

Arguably pot limit is the game which involves more skill.... but more often than not it can degenerate into a crapshoot when the blind structure and starting chip stack is wrong. But anyway....

I think Daniel Negreanu said it best on his blog last year when he had a mammoth rant about how the cadillac of poker should be a pot limit rather than a no limit game. Pot limit due to its nature requires a lot more skill, and waiting for a big hand often comes back to bite you in the ass.

It's most common to hear people refer to limit as the game of the most skill, it requires the most decisons with the least variance.

Pot limit is a good middle ground between NL and FL, i have never played 1/2PL but out like to give it a go some time, i imagine that is a pretty damn good game.

This is a very complicated question and everyone will have their different opinions -- like many things, there is never going to be one definitive 'correct' answer and I think it certainly varies from person to person.  As for myself, my Pot Noodle Limit is three per day.  Any more than that is just asking for trouble.

I think fixed limit is the more skillful game.

Glad someone agree's :D

I would agree that FL is the more skillfull game, I think it takes more skill to play PL than it does NL i prefer playing PL though, I would like to see more PL tourneys also.

I think the thing about PL is you can often limp in with more marginal hands and see cheap flops and you can get away from flops that you don't like pretty easy.  I think you have to find your own balance with hands, what your more likely to see IMO is many more limpers so I say bet your big hands strongly and don't get too attached to hands like AK, AQ on raggy flops.

I discounted that for obvious reasons when I spoke about what game should be played by 8773 entrants to determine the king or queen of poker.

Thats ignoring the fact that fixed limit is the most boring thing I have come accross and could be compared to the long drawn out death-call of a man suffering from terminal flatulence.

My only experience of fixed limit poker was online when I accidentally registered for a tourny and couldn't unregister in time to spare myself the mysery of being called by half the talbe at every opportunity. It appeared as though it was against their religion to fold so I was more than HAPPY to get busted out so I could get on with the rest of my life. I have read a little on that game and it just looks very straightforward. Far more reliant on catching cards. Saw an interview with Dave Ulliot recently where he was pretty much saying the same thing. Horses for courses methinks.

I've heard so many arguments along the lines of.................."you should be a competent/profitant, potlimit/limit/no limit holdem player to be able to understand all the aspects of the game and to thrive in your chosen format"

My second game of choice is stud, its what i played growing up and the first card game i ever played in a casino, I'm not bad at it as well.

what I'm not good(comfortable) at is limit and pot limit holdem even though no limit
is my main bill payer i dont seem to be able to play the other two disciples as well, which is particularly strange with limit seen as I'm coming from a stud background.

But what Ive learned is that I'm happy with my own no limit game so why should i subscribe to the aforementioned philosophy if it makes me uncomfortable?

I try and avoid limit and pot limit as much as possible because, yes, i think there harder to master in their intricacies, especially the mathematics and diligence needed to master limit.

I think with a lot of time and practice i could become a decent limit/pot limit player, but i just dont want to, Ive identified a weak area of my game so I'll stay away from it, knowones holding a gun to my head and making me play these games.

A lot of people in my family and a couple of my older pals can play a multitude of games at a high level so at times ive endeavoured to attain this generic standard of play, but Ive found that ultimately what this does is detract from my no limit holdem game which pays my bills so i dont have this luxury available to me, as do some of my more financially secure Friends.

One of my pals plays ONLY Omaha and he's really good, I'm average at that game, one of my other pals plays all forms of holdem with such insightful understanding its scary, i could go on about the extent to which they understand the game of poker in its entirety and how my family are the same and i'm not, but NONE of them can compete with my cash game returns/statistics for the past two years, live and online.

the point i'm trying to make is whenever we have a serious game between us its dealers choice!! ive had a coplex about the extent to which ive neglected my potlimit/limit holdem game but realising that my no limit game DOESNT suffer because of my inability to play other games has in its own way hepled me understand a little more about previously unidentified conducive aspects of no limit holdem.

One of the tricky things that I always feel as a mainly No Limit player, when switching to Pot Limit, is how you can't go all-in to put pressure on people when you're a shortstack.

Many No-Limit players are used to simply going all-in when they dip below 10 times the Big Blind in chips; in Pot Limit you can't do this unless the pot has already been opened, and if you move all-in after a raise you probably don't have enough chips to prevent your opponent from making a 2-1 call (if he/she has any chips at all).

From my experience, being a shortstack in PL HE is no fun, and I find it's probably worth taking a few more risks than in NL, to make sure my chipstack stays WELL above the line.

Maybe, I don't know, but maybe my shortstack game is so good because I started playing live poker with PLHE (albeit in a re-buy 15 big blinds fest). I couldn't just go all-in when I dipped below 10 big blinds. I still had to play the table rather than push and pray. And I do feel that it has helped with my NL game. Rarely do you find me performing "push and pray" as a shortstack and yet I still manage many final tables after successfully navigating half the tournament with a short stack.

Maybe I should just be concentrating on why the hell I always allow myself to become a short stack instead of playing with a short stack successfully  ;goodvevil; rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

I suppose my point was that it's one fewer weapon you have in your arsenal as a shortstack in Pot Limit rather than No Limit, which might contribute to the perception that it's harder.

It's always harder to play flops than pre-flop.