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Title: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: ACE2M on August 13, 2006, 01:54:20 PM Down to 25 ish players in a 100 runner tourney.
I'm in the sb with 12,000 and the blinds are 400/800. 9 players. utg + 1 raises to 2800, he has 15,000 and is not a player to be messing around with pre flop raises unless he has a hand. all fold to the cut off who moves all in for 6,000. folded to me and i find 9,9. I start to think and whilst doing so i notice something from the original raisor that tells me he doesn't have a monster, so i can now expect AK, AQ maybe AJ or a medium pocket pair. i think AK, AQ are the favourites. I think it is 50/50 the original raiser will call with either of these hands if i move all in. All in or fold? Title: Re: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: Trix on August 13, 2006, 02:27:17 PM fold
Title: Re: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: Royal Flush on August 13, 2006, 02:51:25 PM I think you have to fold this.
You put 1 player on AK/AQ. the other 1 has moved all in knowing that the UTG player will have to call. He isn't doing it with air. You may well pass and see AK vs AK or AK vs AQ etc. Sometimes that will happen but quite often you will be up against a bigger pair here. How strong is the read on the UTG player? He wouldn't be to comfortable with TT/JJ right there! Title: Re: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: thetank on August 13, 2006, 03:55:49 PM Pass
Title: Re: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: mikkyT on August 13, 2006, 04:49:34 PM Your M is 10. I think you can fold here and hopefully keep picking up blinds. You don't want to race yet. Plus there is the all-in man to deal with and he wants the call from UTG.
Title: Re: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: boldie on August 15, 2006, 11:39:40 AM Your M is 10. I think you can fold here and hopefully keep picking up blinds. You don't want to race yet. Plus there is the all-in man to deal with and he wants the call from UTG. easy fold for me. UTG,a s you say, is not likely to be messing around here so you have to give him some credit. Title: Re: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: Hairydude on August 16, 2006, 08:27:42 AM I think his all in move displays one of 5 hands, 10 10, J J, Q Q, AQ, or AK- you are a coinflip on 2 of them and a massive dog in 3(at best)- there is even the possibility he has KK or AA so might be more- why waste half your tourney chips when you have chips to wait for a better spot
I doubt he would go all in with any smaller pocket pair cuz although he is a shorter stack he still has enough chips to play with Title: Re: tournament hand, all in or fold? Post by: snoopy1239 on August 16, 2006, 05:12:52 PM I think you have to fold this. You put 1 player on AK/AQ. the other 1 has moved all in knowing that the UTG player will have to call. He isn't doing it with air. You may well pass and see AK vs AK or AK vs AQ etc. Sometimes that will happen but quite often you will be up against a bigger pair here. How strong is the read on the UTG player? He wouldn't be to comfortable with TT/JJ right there! I agree, even if you're right and the utg has overcards, you're still putting you're tournament life on a coinflip as I doubt he'll pass a hand like A-K (maybe call with A-Q too) - and that's not to mention the strong possibility that the second raiser has you dominated. Just fold here and wait for a better opportunity. |