Title: how not to play 89s Post by: Ironside on August 24, 2005, 11:39:52 PM PokerStars Game #2413977591: Tournament #11526260, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/08/24 - 18:33:40 (ET)
Table '11526260 31' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: Ironside (4220 in chips) Seat 2: abecjosh (4605 in chips) Seat 3: Herm23 (2715 in chips) Seat 4: woffjuice (3125 in chips) Seat 5: fibbe37 (1815 in chips) Seat 6: cnarf (2110 in chips) Seat 7: DR TOOTH (1225 in chips) Seat 8: dberg (1750 in chips) Seat 9: showtime25 (1495 in chips) showtime25: posts small blind 25 Ironside: posts big blind 50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [As Ac] abecjosh: calls 50 Herm23: folds woffjuice: folds fibbe37: raises 50 to 100 cnarf: folds DR TOOTH: folds dberg: calls 100 showtime25: folds Ironside: raises 450 to 550 abecjosh: folds fibbe37: calls 450 dberg: folds *** FLOP *** [Td Js Qs] Ironside: checks fibbe37: bets 1265 and is all-in Ironside: calls 1265 *** TURN *** [Td Js Qs] [6d] *** RIVER *** [Td Js Qs 6d] [Kc] *** SHOW DOWN *** Ironside: shows [As Ac] (a straight, Ten to Ace) fibbe37: shows [9d 8d] (a straight, Nine to King) dberg said, "haha" Ironside collected 3805 from pot dberg said, "jesus" dberg said, "like 2 outs" *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3805 | Rake 0 Board [Td Js Qs 6d Kc] Seat 1: Ironside (big blind) showed [As Ac] and won (3805) with a straight, Ten to Ace Seat 2: abecjosh folded before Flop Seat 3: Herm23 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: woffjuice folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: fibbe37 showed [9d 8d] and lost with a straight, Nine to King Seat 6: cnarf folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: DR TOOTH folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: dberg (button) folded before Flop Seat 9: showtime25 (small blind) folded before Flop was this a really bad call on flop seeing as i was getting 2-1 Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: ifm on August 24, 2005, 11:49:48 PM I had the same sort of thing earlier, only i had 78 v AA and flopped the str8 ;)
Heads up and v a player you have well covered in the 3rd level of a comp........automatic call. BTW i didn't think he played them at all wrong, actually very nicely it isn't his fault all online poker is fixed ;D Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: Ironside on August 24, 2005, 11:51:39 PM so you would double the blinds with 89s then call a reraise worth 35% of you stack ?
Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: ifm on August 24, 2005, 11:58:20 PM It depends really, i will gamble early on and i would call with suited connectors, he can still carry on with 1200ish it ain't fatal with the blinds that low.
I don't think it's as bad as calling a reraise with AJ,10,9 etc. cuz you are only chasing 1 card (most likely). Each to their own of course, i folded JJ twice the other night and AQ to reraises. Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: Ironside on August 24, 2005, 11:59:41 PM i'll call smallish raises with suited connectors but 35% is either all in reraise or fold
Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: ifm on August 25, 2005, 12:07:38 AM it just depends at what point i'm still gambling, i think i would be in his spot.
I wouldn't do it later on or if i had more chips. Ain't it wonderful this game, you can be right and wrong at the same time! Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: Ironside on August 25, 2005, 12:16:40 AM the reason i feel its wrong to call for 35% of your stack with 89s is if you hit your not getting the implied odds you need to make it a profitable play
Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: stoo on August 25, 2005, 12:22:35 AM What was flippes play like before the 89? was he calling large raises before the flop and then folding alot of hands after it? The oringinal call of 450 is silly in my oppinion... would need a very nice flop to make the call seem sensible. The fact that he got it made his all in sensible in my oppinion, however the river proved to be his undoing and a silly call of 450 wouldn't have got him in this trouble.
Better cards to make your move on I feel. Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: ifm on August 25, 2005, 12:23:19 AM there was still a player behind him that called the original raise.
I don't disagree, i just said i would probably do the same. If he had more chips you couldn't possibly have called his allin, just his bad luck you had aces and had double his chips. Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: Ironside on August 25, 2005, 12:25:29 AM there was still a player behind him that called the original raise. I don't disagree, i just said i would probably do the same. If he had more chips you couldn't possibly have called his allin, just his bad luck you had aces and had double his chips. if he had more chips then it wouldn't have been 35% of his stack Title: Re: how not to play 89s Post by: ifm on August 25, 2005, 12:28:20 AM lol i know that, it was a "what if" scenario
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