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Title: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 28, 2006, 06:21:25 PM

 just heard on the radio that Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead in talks to finalises his move from Real Madrid.

 in my opinion this is a great signing for the club , ive always liked Gravesen as a player from Everton and with Real

 and i think he was the best central midfielder in the premiership excluding the obvious - Vieira and Keane.

 i also heard the money spent on transfers and wage deals for Hesselink and Gravesen will add up to 17.5 million pounds.

 this is a real sign of ambition from the club and i think its an exciting period for the club.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: madasahatstand on August 28, 2006, 06:24:59 PM

 just heard on the radio that Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead in talks to finalises his move from Real Madrid.

 in my opinion this is a great signing for the club , ive always liked Gravesen as a player from Everton and with Real

 and i think he was the best central midfielder in the premiership excluding the obvious - Vieira and Keane.

 i also heard the money spent on transfers and wage deals for Hesselink and Gravesen will add up to 17.5 million pounds.

 this is a real sign of ambition from the club and i think its an exciting period for the club.
someone tell fergus8


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Teacake on August 28, 2006, 07:36:28 PM
These look like 2 excellent signings & I'm amazed that we've managed to get them to play in Scotland in addition to Jarosik who'll be a good player when he adapts to the pace of the game.

I'm quite excited about how we're shaping up as we've got some excellent young players & now we've a bit of experience to help them out.

Remember Balde & Maloney are still to come back & don't be surprised if more business is done before the transfer window closes on Thursday  ;)


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Div on August 28, 2006, 07:44:03 PM
Disappointed to lose Petrov, but Gravesen is a real coup. Just goes to show the lure of Champions League football.

It will  be interested to see whether there are more signings in the pipeline  in the remainder of the transfer window.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 28, 2006, 08:39:17 PM
He is class. I would have wanted him at Spurs but we went out and bought Zokara instead - who the manager wants to stick on the bench?!?


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: brad.strider on August 28, 2006, 08:41:26 PM
He is class. I would have wanted him at Spurs but we went out and bought Zokara instead - who the manager wants to stick on the bench?!?
yeah, youre bets are looking a bit  dodgy already! 8)


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Div on August 28, 2006, 08:43:45 PM
He is class. I would have wanted him at Spurs but we went out and bought Zokara instead - who the manager wants to stick on the bench?!?

Yeah I genuinely thought Spurs would have moved for Petrov when they sold Carrick  ;)


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 28, 2006, 08:54:12 PM

 there are also some rumours circulating about a transfer from Hibs - possibly Scott Brown or Kevin Thomson

 for 1/2 a million plus a midfielder - possibly pearson or wallace.

 i think Scott Brown would be a very good addition - hes an exciting attacking young player with goals in him.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Div on August 28, 2006, 08:56:59 PM

 there are also some rumours circulating about a transfer from Hibs - possibly Scott Brown or Kevin Thomson

 for 1/2 a million plus a midfielder - possibly pearson or wallace.

 i think Scott Brown would be a very good addition - hes an exciting attacking young player with goals in him.

Totally agree. Fire in his belly and a bit of dig too. He can play central or wide right which would give us more options too.

I still think number one priority now is a top class centre half. Another big centre forward to cover for JVOH would be nice too.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 28, 2006, 09:07:30 PM

 Webster and Brown and the title is coming to Paradise again


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: brad.strider on August 28, 2006, 09:20:27 PM

 there are also some rumours circulating about a transfer from Hibs - possibly Scott Brown or Kevin Thomson

 for 1/2 a million plus a midfielder - possibly pearson or wallace.

 i think Scott Brown would be a very good addition - hes an exciting attacking young player with goals in him.
i heard that martin oneill was going for brown


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 28, 2006, 09:48:01 PM
He is class. I would have wanted him at Spurs but we went out and bought Zokara instead - who the manager wants to stick on the bench?!?
yeah, youre bets are looking a bit  dodgy already! 8)

Not really, Arse are losing and look poor in all honesty


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Jim-D on August 28, 2006, 09:52:25 PM
Why isnt Zakora playing? I heard from loads of spurs fans that he was awesome and a ready made carrick replacement?

Reason im asking is coz i got him in my dream team and he has 2 points :D  and i told everyone that he was my secret weapon :D


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Jim-D on August 28, 2006, 09:54:52 PM
And while im at it why on gods green earth does he not play Defoe?????  Hope he moves away coz he is a superb player and is getting wasted at this club  (and yes got him in my dream team also) :D


Sorry to hijack this thread with my dream team rants


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Rooky9 on August 28, 2006, 10:10:32 PM
Why isnt Zakora playing? I heard from loads of spurs fans that he was awesome and a ready made carrick replacement?

Reason im asking is coz i got him in my dream team and he has 2 points :D  and i told everyone that he was my secret weapon :D

Bowyer was mine, and going well!


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 28, 2006, 10:48:32 PM
And while im at it why on gods green earth does he not play Defoe?????  Hope he moves away coz he is a superb player and is getting wasted at this club  (and yes got him in my dream team also) :D


Sorry to hijack this thread with my dream team rants

When you have a non creative midfield (like Spurs have at the moment) having Defoe in the team is a mistake, as he needs service. With Keane in the team, he can set up the play more and better than Defoe can.

The team are dishearten with the management because of the sale of Carrick. Spurs are in negotiation with 9 players (Downing, Mido, Neil, Chimbonda, Ben Arfa, Baptista, Woodgate, Malbranque and Martin Petrov) and I was told that we would get 3, but most probably Spurs will end up with 0

:'( life of a Spurs fan


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: brad.strider on August 29, 2006, 12:29:32 AM
And while im at it why on gods green earth does he not play Defoe?????  Hope he moves away coz he is a superb player and is getting wasted at this club  (and yes got him in my dream team also) :D


Sorry to hijack this thread with my dream team rants

When you have a non creative midfield (like Spurs have at the moment) having Defoe in the team is a mistake, as he needs service. With Keane in the team, he can set up the play more and better than Defoe can.

The team are dishearten with the management because of the sale of Carrick. Spurs are in negotiation with 9 players (Downing, Mido, Neil, Chimbonda, Ben Arfa, Baptista, Woodgate, Malbranque and Martin Petrov) and I was told that we would get 3, but most probably Spurs will end up with 0

:'( life of a Spurs fan
remember a couple of years ago everton had a flucky season and got 4th,then had a nightmare next season? spurs might be having the nightmare next season! 8)


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 29, 2006, 01:05:18 AM
Everton's squad wasn't as strong as ours, but, I hear ya


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 29, 2006, 04:22:47 PM
And while im at it why on gods green earth does he not play Defoe?????  Hope he moves away coz he is a superb player and is getting wasted at this club  (and yes got him in my dream team also) :D


Sorry to hijack this thread with my dream team rants

When you have a non creative midfield (like Spurs have at the moment) having Defoe in the team is a mistake, as he needs service. With Keane in the team, he can set up the play more and better than Defoe can.

The team are dishearten with the management because of the sale of Carrick. Spurs are in negotiation with 9 players (Downing, Mido, Neil, Chimbonda, Ben Arfa, Baptista, Woodgate, Malbranque and Martin Petrov) and I was told that we would get 3, but most probably Spurs will end up with 0

:'( life of a Spurs fan

Mido, Malbranque and Ben Arfa in. ;D


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 29, 2006, 06:31:05 PM

 meanwhile , Gravesens move to paradise hits the rocks  :(

 seems he hasnt passed his medical , negotiations still ongoing so i hope we dont lose him .


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 29, 2006, 06:38:56 PM
Yeah, he is signing for Everton

Celtic cannot compete, wages wise


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: dan on August 29, 2006, 06:56:33 PM
He is class. I would have wanted him at Spurs but we went out and bought Zokara instead - who the manager wants to stick on the bench?!?
yeah, youre bets are looking a bit  dodgy already! 8)

Not really, Arse are losing and look poor in all honesty

nem, we dont look/ are not playing poorly we are just not finishing at the moment.

i admit sometimes we look a little lightweight which is worring but i think we are just not sharp/fit enough at the moment.

i will be happy when all the ashley cole  and reyes shit is sorted too i think that maybe be having an effect.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 29, 2006, 07:00:41 PM
Eboue looks your best attacking player - which is worrying for you.

The fact that you played so poorly away from home last season. Also, getting use to the size of your new pitch, is going to take time...


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: dan on August 29, 2006, 07:08:45 PM
Eboue looks your best attacking player - which is worrying for you.

The fact that you played so poorly away from home last season. Also, getting use to the size of your new pitch, is going to take time...

i agree which is worrying, wenger has said 10 games but i think he has just said that to not to put pressure on the players.

wembley in the CL springs to mind and we played crap there


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Tinsel Town on August 29, 2006, 07:35:42 PM

 meanwhile , Gravesens move to paradise hits the rocks  :(

 seems he hasnt passed his medical , negotiations still ongoing so i hope we dont lose him .

Another twist
local radio has it on good authority that Gravesen has signed but Celtic do not wish to announce it
till Petrov signs for Villa. Seems that Celtic announcing they have already bought a replacement for
Stan will weaken their hand when negotiating with the birmingham club.

We'll see!!

 Td Th


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 29, 2006, 07:48:14 PM
 yeah and theyve offered him 40 , 000 pounds per week , if that cant compete with Everton then im missing something.

 whats Andy Johnson on ? 70 , 000 ?


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 29, 2006, 07:52:09 PM
yeah and theyve offered him 40 , 000 pounds per week , if that cant compete with Everton then im missing something.

 whats Andy Johnson on ? 70 , 000 ?

I'm surprised.



Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 29, 2006, 08:02:04 PM

 yeah nem , its in the region of 35,000 - 40,000 a week - hes on 60,000 at Real but wants to play at the highest level.

 and the Champions League offers him that , and 40,000 is not to be sneezed at really by anyones standards.

 i think Celtic might try and renegotiate the offer however due to his medical results , so we have to wait and see.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Teacake on August 29, 2006, 09:49:35 PM
Yeah, he is signing for Everton

Celtic cannot compete, wages wise

If anyone hijacks this deal its most likely to be Newcastle a la Damian Duff. It could depend NU getting Woodgate on loan, in turn Petrov may end up staying at CP til the January window.

Having said all that Gravesen has only had a medical at Celtic & hes gone back to Denmark so I would expect this to go through sometime tomorrow.




Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 29, 2006, 09:58:28 PM
Yeah, he is signing for Everton

Celtic cannot compete, wages wise

If anyone hijacks this deal its most likely to be Newcastle a la Damian Duff. It could depend NU getting Woodgate on loan, in turn Petrov may end up staying at CP til the January window.

Having said all that Gravesen has only had a medical at Celtic & hes gone back to Denmark so I would expect this to go through sometime tomorrow.




I was thinking that, as the barcodes are the deal hijackers. But he wont move there, especially as Parker plays in his position and is the barcodes captain


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Suited_Jock on August 30, 2006, 09:26:24 AM
According to the daily ranger and some fan sites hes agreed a deal.

from skysports this morning:

"I can only say Gordon Strachan, John Sivebaek (Gravesen's agent) and myself have come to an agreement and we are going to release a statement tomorrow," Gravesen told the Daily Record

Full Story here :

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=413051&CPID=14&clid=61&lid=2&title=Gravesen+agrees+Celtic+deal



Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Suited_Jock on August 30, 2006, 03:07:21 PM
Its OFFISHAL now on the celtic site :

Quote
Celtic Football Club is delighted to announce that it has signed midfielder Thomas Gravesen from Real Madrid. Danish internationalist Thomas (30), has signed a three-year contract, with Celtic having the option of a further year

more at http://www.celticfc.net


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Div on August 30, 2006, 03:13:37 PM
This is funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaC33Q5g2xg&NR

Especially the bodycheck at 1:00 and the guys attempted foul at about 1:40


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: mjrevie on August 30, 2006, 03:14:29 PM
This could be one of the best signings Celtic have made in years and definitely helps with the loss of petrov.

The le guen revolution?  :D


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Bazzaboy on August 30, 2006, 04:22:01 PM
£45k a week for the poor mans Stig Tofting  :D

I will admit, its a good deal.......for Mr Gravesen


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: mjrevie on August 30, 2006, 04:24:55 PM
£45k a week for the poor mans Stig Tofting  :D

I will admit, its a good deal.......for Mr Gravesen

Just out of interest, how much does Mr Ferguson get a week?


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Bazzaboy on August 30, 2006, 04:25:33 PM
£27k


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: mjrevie on August 30, 2006, 04:26:10 PM
£27k

Thought it would be more. I have no other point caller.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Bazzaboy on August 30, 2006, 04:27:35 PM
£27k

Thought it would be more. I have no other point caller.

lol

I do think Gravesen is a good player but not worth 45k a week imo, but time will tell.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Div on August 30, 2006, 04:27:59 PM
£45k a week for the poor mans Stig Tofting  :D

I will admit, its a good deal.......for Mr Gravesen

Now, now Bazza. Green doesn't suit you.  :D


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: mjrevie on August 30, 2006, 04:28:37 PM
45K is a lot but i think he could be an excellent signing.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: patman on August 30, 2006, 04:31:28 PM
£45k a week for the poor mans Stig Tofting  :D

I will admit, its a good deal.......for Mr Gravesen


poor effort there bazza...wee bit o green cheese
and where did you get this figure from bazza...big derek on clyde??....the 2 important parties in this deal have said nothing..so its speculation and fiction time again..

thats what frustrates the press and leads to random dart board figures being flung around....because they cant get any info from celtic...pub and message board journalism...dont fall for it  ;)





Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Bazzaboy on August 30, 2006, 04:39:16 PM
£45k a week for the poor mans Stig Tofting  :D

I will admit, its a good deal.......for Mr Gravesen


poor effort there bazza...wee bit o green cheese
and where did you get this figure from bazza...big derek on clyde??....the 2 important parties in this deal have said nothing..so its speculation and fiction time again..

thats what frustrates the press and leads to random dart board figures being flung around....because they cant get any info from celtic...pub and message board journalism...dont fall for it  ;)





lol

Just the figure which has been banded about for the past two days.  To be honest I don't think it will be that wide of the mark given that he was obviously on a ridiculously high salary at the Bernabeau, combined with the interest for Premiership clubs mean he isn't going to accept a huge cut.  But like I said time will tell whether he proves to be value for money or not.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 30, 2006, 04:52:41 PM
Gravesen is going to be a massive hit at Celtic and is a much better player than anything Rangers have. ;goodvevil;


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Teacake on August 30, 2006, 05:11:42 PM
Great piece of business by Peter Lawell again!

Why are people so hung up about the money Celtic are spending? They get slagged for having a biscuit tin mentality when they don't spend & still get slagged when they do. Its nothing do to do with the fact that Murray promised "several" million for PLG to spend & that has not materialised, 15 million was the figure "bandied about" I believe. Moonbeams indeed! Make nearly 200 people redundant & service the debt with the proceeds whilst giving up your biggest source of merchandising income.  >:?

I dont believe Gravesen will be on as much as 45k a week it will ne nearer 35k with bonuses & incentives added, but even if he is on that figure Celtic will still be well up on the day

Petrov - 30k a week x 52 weeks x 3 years = 4.68m + 6.5 mill tran fee = 11.18m saved

Gravesen 45k a week x 52 x 3 = 6.5m + 2m trans fee = 9.02m spent

That gives us another 2 million to spend with the possibilty of another 1.5 million coming in add ons from the Petrov deal.

You do the math 8)





Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: brad.strider on August 30, 2006, 06:29:53 PM
bottom line is, whatever he is on we can afford it,lawel and desmond are not david murray,we wouldnt spend cash we didnt have!


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Acidmouse on August 30, 2006, 07:32:14 PM
47k? christ we got player at Leeds still on that! peanuts


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 30, 2006, 07:33:44 PM
47k? christ we got player at Leeds still on that! peanuts

Who? Bakke?


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Acidmouse on August 30, 2006, 09:31:38 PM
Aye hes been on a fortune for yonks.

I saw him in M&S supermarket near mine last week and he had bought over 200 quids worth of blueburrys :P strange but true.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Wardonkey on August 30, 2006, 09:34:05 PM
Maybe Jamie Gold is hiding at his place...


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 31, 2006, 04:36:00 AM

 Andy Walker said on the radio Celtic may have paid over the odds for their last 2 signings Hesselink and Gravesen.

 since when did 5.5 million for two players with international and european pedigree become over the odds ?

 what a *****.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Decider on August 31, 2006, 09:18:29 AM
Nobody listens to Andy Walker.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 31, 2006, 01:31:44 PM

 
 but he is gets paid good money to express his opinions on national radio so a lot of people hear him even if the dont listen

  what is it with ex celtic players who insist on belittling the club at every opportunity

 Nicholas , Walker , McLeod and Provan come to mind straight away


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Decider on August 31, 2006, 02:19:10 PM
No idea, it's unusual to hear ex-gers players doing that to rangers, but I agree, "some" ex-celts seem happy to do it. It's the easier option I suppose.

Charlie Nicolas was on TalkSport this morning and couldn't make up his mind about whether celtic had made good signings or not, tried criticising Celtic for losing stan by saying they couldn't replace him, then shortly afterwards saying that Gravesan was a good replacement.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Nem on August 31, 2006, 02:22:10 PM
Nicholas is a prize *****


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: patman on August 31, 2006, 02:27:50 PM
Nicholas is a prize *****

charlie speaks utter boll..ks

cant believe he gets paid to murder the english language live on tv....i decided he was thick when he picked arsenal over man utd and liverpool

champagne charlie......great footballer with good footballing instincts, mind , mouth and thought process of a bar of toffee


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 31, 2006, 03:18:09 PM
Andy Walker = plonker
Davie Provan = Bigger Plonker
Charlie Nicholas = T**T


Only decent former Celt who got into the media was Tosh McKinlay, a true supporter of the club a cracking signing and a guy with integrity who gave his job up with Radio Clyde when he came out with information that was later found to be incorrect.  A Man of principle the other tottis heids I have never had time fore spend far to much time pandering to the rags up here!!

Andy is just jealous that he never ever ever ever ever had the quality of Big Jan.


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: Div on August 31, 2006, 04:18:11 PM
Another piece of transfer genius from Celtic - if true.

Taken from the BBC website:

"BBC Scotland understands that Sunderland will pay Celtic £800,000 for Stanislav Varga and Ross Wallace. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/5300876.stm


 :dd:


Title: Re: Thomas Gravesen is at Parkhead
Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 31, 2006, 10:16:54 PM
Another piece of transfer genius from Celtic - if true.

Taken from the BBC website:

"BBC Scotland understands that Sunderland will pay Celtic £800,000 for Stanislav Varga and Ross Wallace. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/5300876.stm


 :dd:

Personally I reckon thats the best bit of business of the day. 

We get Varga for nothing from the Mackems and we get hime off the wage bill and actually manage to get 1.1 million (dependent on appearances)


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