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Feedback on this hand would be much appreciated.


PokerStars Game #6182523739: Tournament #31345205, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/09/05 - 18:18:22 (ET)
Table '31345205 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SP 5187 (1590 in chips)
Seat 2: thanx4chips (1495 in chips)
Seat 3: hanson44 (1390 in chips)
Seat 4: andersrk (1640 in chips)
Seat 5: swattdogg (1550 in chips)
Seat 6: Cye99 (1350 in chips)
Seat 7: tsmith4907 (1830 in chips)
Seat 8: Krystal86 (745 in chips)
Seat 9: Jurbino (1910 in chips)
SP 5187: posts small blind 10
thanx4chips: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thanx4chips [Qh Td]
hanson44: folds
andersrk: folds
swattdogg: folds
Cye99: folds
tsmith4907: calls 20
Krystal86: folds
Jurbino: raises 40 to 60
SP 5187: folds
thanx4chips: calls 40
tsmith4907: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [9s Jh Kh]
thanx4chips: bets 40
tsmith4907: folds
Jurbino: raises 40 to 80
thanx4chips: calls 40
*** TURN *** [9s Jh Kh] [9d]
thanx4chips: bets 100
Jurbino: raises 200 to 300
thanx4chips: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [9s Jh Kh 9d] [8c]
thanx4chips: bets 300
Jurbino: raises 300 to 600
thanx4chips: raises 455 to 1055 and is all-in
Jurbino: calls 455
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thanx4chips: shows [Qh Td] (a straight, Nine to King)
Jurbino: shows [Js Jd] (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
Jurbino collected 3060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3060 | Rake 0
Board [9s Jh Kh 9d 8c]
Seat 1: SP 5187 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: thanx4chips (big blind) showed [Qh Td] and lost with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 3: hanson44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: andersrk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: swattdogg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Cye99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tsmith4907 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Krystal86 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Jurbino (button) showed [Js Jd] and won (3060) with a full house, Jacks full of Nines

should have folded pre-flop, that early in a SnG never play those hands.

id rather play those hands early in a stt than late when the blinds are 20% of your stack

oh and when he raises you on the turn you do well to flat call the raise. you shouldve check called the river

This is correct.

Given that you have played it, you need to play it harder on the flop.

All your chips should be in, probably on the flop unless he just flat calls a 3/4 pot bet, definately on the turn if he slow plays his set.

Your play on the river is horrible you have to realise you're beat here.

I wouldn't be totally against playing Q 10 os early in a tournament provided you can get in with a cheap flat call in late position. Even then it's very marginal though.

However calling a 3xBB raise from the big blind with another likely caller behind you is a different matter. You should fold as you're going to end up with Q 10 , which is not particularly strong, with one, possibly two people behind you.

You end up out of position with a modest hand.

Accepting that you play the hand then your bet after the flop is too weak as it doesn't discourage flush draws from calling you.

Once the board pairs on the turn you have to consider the possibility of a full house.  After the turn comes you are reraised twice by Jurbino who clearly indicates that he likes his hand.

As War states you have to realise you're very likely beat at this point and so going all in isn't the right thing to do.

Plus never overlook the fact that he out chips you, you're risking your tourny life here, no turning back if it's the wrong move.  As it proved!

Hope this helps

The reason you don't want to play hands like Q,10 early in STTs is that you need to hit a flop very hard to be confident that your in front. These types of hands are difficult to play and often you will just be pissing chips away. Your stack is not deep enough and you don't have time to see lots of flops and be creative.

Ok. you've played it.

The reason you need to play the flop harder is not really because of the flush draw. True you don't want give the draw cheap cards, but your main consideration here is winning a big pot. There is a good chance one of your opponents has hit the flop, often players, particularly at this level will back up top pair with thier whole stack. Basically your not going to get any chips from them if they missed completely with hands like 8,8 etc but you stand a great chance of doubling up from someone who has hit top pair, two pair, or even a set.

Not playing the hand, however is still the best option.

 

Thanks for the advice guys.

The main thing said has been that i shouldn't have called pre-flop.  The reason for my call was that it was early and he had raised nearly every pot, i thought i'd take a look.  When I see the flop, I'm happy I played it.

But... I should have got away from it when the board paired and he raised me on the river.  I realise that now.

Oh well, I can only learn.

Thanks again.