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Title: Pre-flop betting
Post by: mjrevie on September 06, 2006, 11:41:32 AM
*********** # 20 **************
PokerStars Game #6181433033: Tournament #31339687, $20+$2 Hold'em No
Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/09/05 - 16:38:32 (ET)
Table '31339687 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: mike2wrx (2090 in chips)
Seat 2: Naplam (1670 in chips)
Seat 3: mjtr (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: lesterlee11 (1240 in chips)
Seat 5: MelbourneJoe (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: mattuu11 (1080 in chips)
Seat 7: Monty36 (1740 in chips)
Seat 8: PistolPeeper (1240 in chips)
Seat 9: JDNda2nd (1500 in chips)
Monty36: posts small blind 10
PistolPeeper: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mjtr [Ks Kc]
JDNda2nd: folds
mike2wrx: folds
Naplam: folds
mjtr: raises 60 to 80
lesterlee11: folds
MelbourneJoe: folds
mattuu11: folds
Monty36: calls 70
PistolPeeper: raises 60 to 140
mjtr: raises 240 to 380
Monty36: raises 240 to 620
PistolPeeper: folds
mjtr: ??

Is this a lay-down or could he be playing AK, QQ very aggressively?


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: BigSoti on September 06, 2006, 12:54:03 PM
I certainly couldn't ever pass KK preflop, if it turns out he has Aces then fair enough, you just need to take it on the chin.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Maddog on September 06, 2006, 02:29:38 PM
Looks like those two may call any raise you make . I say go all in and hope to get paid @ 2-1.



Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Graham C on September 06, 2006, 02:37:18 PM
Move all in.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: boldie on September 06, 2006, 04:39:16 PM
Move all in.

crickey this forum just gets tighter and tighter...last week everyone wanted to pass QQ preflop and now KK? Move in with them!...unless God himself comes down to you and says "I swear on everything I created that I personally gave him AA!" then you move all in here.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Graham C on September 06, 2006, 05:04:26 PM
that's not a tight comment surely boldie?


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: SupaMonkey on September 06, 2006, 05:47:51 PM
What do you have him on boldie. He has check - min raised.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Royal Flush on September 06, 2006, 06:46:48 PM
It's $20 i put him on A6, possibly suited.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: SupaMonkey on September 06, 2006, 06:49:17 PM
 rotflmfao


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Canuck on September 06, 2006, 07:25:57 PM
It's $20 i put him on A6, possibly suited.

sounds about right. :D

with KK there, I push everytime.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: boldie on September 06, 2006, 08:57:02 PM
What do you have him on boldie. He has check - min raised.

oh there's no doubt the guy has a hand...and it is looking more that he's trying to milk it than putting people off but I ain't passing KK pre flop unless I am shown the aces pre-flop.

I have seen people make this play with Q's or AK sooted aswell as Aces...ussually lousy players I admit but I don't know anything about this guy. I also wouldn't have expected him to stick a raise in with the Aces. 3 handed of which 2 of the guys are raising into me I'll flat call and have the guys see a flop...although it might be a risky strategy as someone could hit trips.

I'm still thinking your K's are ahead.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: mjrevie on September 07, 2006, 01:44:31 AM
Here is the end

*********** # 20 **************

PokerStars Game #6181433033: Tournament #31339687, $20+$2 Hold'em No

Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/09/05 - 16:38:32 (ET)

Table '31339687 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button

Seat 1: mike2wrx (2090 in chips)

Seat 2: Naplam (1670 in chips)

Seat 3: mjtr (1470 in chips)

Seat 4: lesterlee11 (1240 in chips)

Seat 5: MelbourneJoe (1470 in chips)

Seat 6: mattuu11 (1080 in chips)

Seat 7: Monty36 (1740 in chips)

Seat 8: PistolPeeper (1240 in chips)

Seat 9: JDNda2nd (1500 in chips)

Monty36: posts small blind 10

PistolPeeper: posts big blind 20

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to mjtr [Ks Kc]

JDNda2nd: folds

mike2wrx: folds

Naplam: folds

mjtr: raises 60 to 80

lesterlee11: folds

MelbourneJoe: folds

mattuu11: folds

Monty36: calls 70

PistolPeeper: raises 60 to 140

mjtr: raises 240 to 380

Monty36: raises 240 to 620

PistolPeeper: folds

mjtr: raises 850 to 1470 and is all-in

Monty36: calls 850

*** FLOP *** [6s 5s 4s]

*** TURN *** [6s 5s 4s] [3h]

*** RIVER *** [6s 5s 4s 3h] [3d]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

Monty36: shows [Ac Ah] (two pair, Aces and Threes)

mjtr: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Threes)

Monty36 collected 3080 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 3080 | Rake 0

Board [6s 5s 4s 3h 3d]

Seat 1: mike2wrx folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: Naplam folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: mjtr showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes

Seat 4: lesterlee11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: MelbourneJoe folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: mattuu11 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: Monty36 (small blind) showed [Ac Ah] and won (3080) with two

pair, Aces and Threes

Seat 8: PistolPeeper (big blind) folded before Flop

Seat 9: JDNda2nd folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: SupaMonkey on September 07, 2006, 03:44:33 AM
Yea Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Royal Flush on September 07, 2006, 04:15:45 AM
Yea Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: boldie on September 07, 2006, 10:30:36 AM
Yea Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

happy you're right? or happy cus it's you taking the money?


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: SupaMonkey on September 07, 2006, 03:13:19 PM
Cos i got it right and i had just finished off a bottle of wine. Dunno if i coulda made the fold though.


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: bhoywonder on September 08, 2006, 09:29:33 AM
hindsight is often overlooked in poker


lol

seriously u know the chips were going in the middle with KK



Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Royal Flush on September 08, 2006, 09:34:15 AM
Cos i got it right and i had just finished off a bottle of wine. Dunno if i coulda made the fold though.

Wasnt hard to get it right, he is posting asking if he should pass KK, 95% chance the guy has AA when thats the question!


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: mjrevie on September 08, 2006, 01:00:58 PM
Cos i got it right and i had just finished off a bottle of wine. Dunno if i coulda made the fold though.

Wasnt hard to get it right, he is posting asking if he should pass KK, 95% chance the guy has AA when thats the question!

It was obvious by the fact i was posting he had AA, my main point was given the betting pattern, should you be able to get away from it? What other hands can he make this move with?


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: Royal Flush on September 08, 2006, 04:54:45 PM
A7


Title: Re: Pre-flop betting
Post by: SupaMonkey on September 08, 2006, 06:15:43 PM
Cos i got it right and i had just finished off a bottle of wine. Dunno if i coulda made the fold though.

Wasnt hard to get it right, he is posting asking if he should pass KK, 95% chance the guy has AA when thats the question!

It was obvious by the fact i was posting he had AA, my main point was given the betting pattern, should you be able to get away from it? What other hands can he make this move with?

This was my point. Since i have started multi-tabling the $5 sngs i have noticed that min reraise preflop (at these stakes) means big pair and given the way he had played it, i really thought he had aces.