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dragons den on BBC2 right now, Ive been reliably informed that this episode involves the proposal of the infamous pub poker league!!

Ok, ready and watching.

Watching too.  Great TV

fraud guard pen!!!!! rotflmfao rotflmfao

50 grand for felt tips that don't work.  You have to admire that.

If it goes flat, just carry your golf bag. It's not complicated. :D

you gotta  love zipadee duvet :D

Beat me to it
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its poker time.  8)

Brilliant T.V!!!!!

I dont think that he done very well but it seems the idea sold itself

Yep must admit to being surprised that they went for it, but fair do's and good luck to him.

As soon as he mentioned the web site and the commission for links to other sites they bit his hand off!!!

Loved it when he said he'd be a fool to take Peter's money  :D

I am sooooooo happy

We are already nearly as big as his league after only 6 weeks and we have had 40000 hits.

It also adds credibility to pokerinthepub

I could not have afforded such great publicity.

We also are now sponsored by Card Player Europe .....so lets hope that this is good news for poker for once.

I wonder if anyone from the gaming board was watching that though :D :D.

They are all down the pub playing poker.  :D

they seemed to get excited cos he's an affiliate for a crypto site. I'm sure he'll get a few sign ups from n00b players who've played down the pub and that's good for everyone, but surely once they start playing enough to make him some money they'll just sign up to a different account for rakeback? Anyway if he's bringing some more fish into the game good luck to the guy.

Great prog. I think the poker guy should have gone with Ballantyne and Farley tho...

me too ballantynes casinos and gymnasiums all over the uk, he has the connections rather than the two he chose

Yep, Ballantyne took a shine to the guy which is RARE. Dropped him sharpish tho when he saw the guy was swayed with such ease. Richard Farley looks like a class act.

I agree not doing his homework on the dragons could cost him. Bannatyne is tough to work with but would really have made it work.I am so glad he went with the others as I don't think when they look deeper that they will persue this, whereas Bannatyne has a lot of cross promotional benefits that the others do not and would have really ran with this.
I welcome the competition, pokerinthepub will surpass them within the next month so any publicity in this area is good news for us....news on the regional finals will be up within the next 2 weeks
 :D :D :D

Looking at thier website, they are still only in the Wrexham area anyway.

I think he did amazingly there. Good on him.

personally i would not have invested a penny, not sure they understand the poker market but saw a stepping stone.

really? maybe it was the editing but I thought he did a very poor job. they only signed up to it after he mentioned 27.5% commision...which (they will soon find out) won't actually be 27.5%.
Internet ads also aren't as effective as people seem to think they are...not for this sort of stuff anyways...I expect that ones due diligence is done (which they still need to do) they will pull out.

And Ballantyne was soo obviously the way to go it's almost offensive that he didn't pick him. (which is exactly what Ballantyne thought) He actually cares about poker aswell which makes it much better to have someone like him on board.

Goodluck to anyone who dares to start something up but I reckon this will be a no go.

You may have misunderstood. I think it's a poor investment and i think they were swayed by a chance to get on the poker band wagon but don't realise that it was just basically an affiliate link that anyone can put up anywhere and get the same deal.

I think the pitcher did very well to get any money is what i was saying.

true...amazing he walked away with the prmoise of 65k

I'm often down the pub and if I put up a web page with 2 affiliate links do you think they'd give me £130K?

lol  .....I wish

I think the fact his site had received 50,000 hits had a lot to do with it. I know nowt about the significance of this figure but I remember one of the Dragons saying it was a big number.

I was hoping the two 'golf' guys would unfold their arms. They kept smiling and saying 'no problem' but their body language was way off, reminded me of a couple of 'bouncers' the dragons were never gonna get by. Also felt REALLY sorry for the blonde woman who's partner was a serious liability (the 'construction industry' pitch).

p.s. Note on spelling which I got completely wrong: Duncan Bannatyne and Richard Farleigh (just encase you wanna read up on their background. The clip on Deborah Meaden on the bbc website states she comes from a family of entrepreneurs so for me there's no edge to her, she's just carrying on with family tradition. I like the stories behind the others.)

I noticed they've got over 100,000 hits now - even if they didn't get any money they would have benefited from just being on the show.

I loved that.

"Every time we try to advise you, you get all defensive and shake your head and tut"

Said as the woman shook her head and tutted.

She desrved what she got if you ask me. When her liability of a partner was corpsing at the beginning of her pitch, she did nothing to help out. She could at least have been ready to jump in an keep things ticking along while her partner regained composure, but no, she just stood there grinning like an idiot, saying nothing.

exactly what I thought - she's standing there going "it's ok, don't worry etc" to her mate while she's falling apart.  Surely if they wanted any chance at getting any cash she should have taken over, explaining that her friend was nervous.

like i said we make this show at the place where i work and i saw the rushes and noticed that the nuts poker league had a game in a pub that was local to me and went along it was truely awful. This is the email i sent to them adn the replies i got.

first i sent this

"if its free as it says on website why did i get charged 3 quid to play" thats right not free i had to pay £3 to play. the reply was

Hi Gary,

The Nuts Poker League does not charge to play. However, as it's the
Landlords premises they will have the ultimate say in how things are
organised at their venue. We advise all landlords that its ok to run a
raffle, football card or even put food on, but its their choice. All
they want to do is recoup some of the costs of staging the event and if
their costs are not met then they would not have the event on.

Hope this reply makes sense.

Steve
The Nuts Poker League.

I then sent this its a long one but just some of the things i had issues with about the whole night

Thats fair enough but it wasnt a raffle or football card. It was the organiser of the event collecting three pound from every player and i was told by them that it was to keep the league running. Now im sure your aware that according to gaming laws it is illegal to run a poker tournament or cash game where money is directly raked from the players, of which i would consider taking three pound from every player before they can play as rake. However charging me 3 pounds was the only thing that will stop me from probably going to another event.

The lack of organisation was dispicable and many things throughout the night made me question why i had turned up, they were the following.

1. Although we drew for table number we didnt draw for seats once we had our table surely we should draw for what position we should sit at not sit wherever we want.

2 There was no information on how often the blinds were and when they would go up.

3 the balancing of the tables was appaling at one point we were playing on our table with blinds of 200 400 with 4 players while the other table had 7 players a disadvantage to our table im sure you will agree. Not only that when the tables joined it turned out that the other table had been playing 100/200 not 200/ 400 another huge disadvantage to us and a shocking lack of organisation.

4. When people were asked to move to other tables they were told to sit anywhere they liked no effort was made to sit them accordingly.

5 when joining a new table they dealt cards (lowest card) to see who the dealer would be very unlucky if like me you posted the big blind got moved then drew the big blind again.

6. Finally chipping up just rounding uo your chips to get rid of your lower denominations is pathetic i had 400 in 25s so got 4 100s however next to me had 350 in 25s yet he got 400 as well. If you have ever played a real tournament you will realise this is not the way you chip up.

All in all i was very dissappointed and will not be attending. I think you should reconsider training your agents and stop advertising it for free and collecting £3 directly from every player.I wonder if the dragons know they are investing in a business that is breaking the casino and gaming licence laws.

I have not had a reply yet. Im all for a bit of fun and only went for a laugh but the organisation or lack of was terrible after speaking up once or teice and falling on death ears i gave up.

sounds like a good investment. where do I send the cheque?

The thing is, he may well do ok out of it.  There are millions of people in the UK and poker is becoming more popular day by day.  The more experienced people won't play at his game, but that's not what he wants - he wants the newcomers, the people that will 'give it a go', enjoy it and just play there once a week.  Then they'll be tempted to click his affliate link and he'll get lots of small amounts of rakeback each month.  He's not going to get any big cash from anyone, but he will get lots of small amounts that add up nicely.  If he can get a couple of pounds of everyone in the Wrexham area alone, that will be a small fortune.

I think the 'construction' women had a clearly defined script they were working to and the blonde didn't want to jump in for fear of getting it in the neck from the NUTTER. If that's the way she responds to the Dragons then I can just imagine she's a right nightmare to work with as a partner. While watching I thought she should help out and take over but on reflection i thought this would probably end in a fight initiated by the crazy one.

For a tournament costing £3 each you won't get much organisation, so I'm not surprised it was a bit of a shambles.

also ." Finally chipping up just rounding uo your chips to get rid of your lower denominations is pathetic i had 400 in 25s so got 4 100s however next to me had 350 in 25s yet he got 400 as well. If you have ever played a real tournament you will realise this is not the way you chip up."

that's the way most of the tourneys i play in chip up...i see no problem with this whatsoever.

Anything that adds credibility to poker is ok by me. With everything that is going on in the US we need as much positive press as possible. Our pokerinthepub league is meant to be fun and entertaining and is structured to be for more new or recreational players (though no player should ever be charged ). I am sure it is not as well structured as a real poker tourney,though Dave Cain is extremely professional in his approach to his nights he also recognises that we need to educate new players to the fun side of the game. I hope the other leagues continue to portray poker in a positive manner and that they don't charge players (which is illegal).

The next 12 months is vital for the growth of poker with the new laws coming in next September and super casinos being built this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to put poker in the same corporate arena as golf. So if 2 Dragons say Steve Bellis is worth investing thats good news for all of us....I still would have gone with Bannatyne though 8)

The tournament has got to be free, and surprised as a poker player that seems to know what he is talking about would wish to play anything like this seriously? It is meant as a bit of fun, and introducing prospective new players to the game. My friend asked me to run a game for a different league to both advertised on here, in fact the league is www.anpl.co.uk and was held at a pub very close to me. Originally I went down to see what it was all about, and then got roped into running it. Very rough pub 43 players that needed to be seated and whittled down to a winner within 3 hours, nobody ever dealt before and 95% not knowing any rules. You try telling 10 bruisers that the 5 pt chips are worthless when the blinds are 25/50 and explaining a chip up process, i ended up taking over on each table and nearly got my head kicked in LOL trust me it is better just to chip up.
Having to compete with a football match on the big screen, explaining to people how to play the game and who actually wins with what hands. But over all it was a laugh and a good night was had, people talked about it all week and couldn't wait till the next one. Job Done, allbeit improvised. But if a regular poker player went down that night, he would be horrified at some of the plays/strokes/verbal etc. BUT IT WAS FUN FOR THOSE PLAYERS!!!

That actually seems quite low to me. I used to run a Twin Peaks website in the late-90's, and it didn't take long to get past 50,000 hits even back then when the internet was a lot less mature than it is now.