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[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Hand Start.
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 1 : E621 has $28,300
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 2 : jjl has $51,400
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 3 : AAAA-1 has $13,195
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 5 : ferg12 has $29,600
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 6 : Netzero1 has $13,960
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 7 : KINGMEI has $6,910
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 8 : Flush Royal has $23,505
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : 'Dead button' is at seat 8
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : E621 posted small blind.
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : jjl posted big blind.
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Game [112] started with 7 players.
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Sep 7 23:32:01] : Seat 8 : Flush Royal has Ad 9c
[Sep 7 23:32:02] : AAAA-1 folded.
[Sep 7 23:32:04] : ferg12 called 600
[Sep 7 23:32:04] : Netzero1 folded.
[Sep 7 23:32:05] : KINGMEI folded.
[Sep 7 23:32:10] : Flush Royal called 600
[Sep 7 23:32:13] : E621 called 300
[Sep 7 23:32:15] : jjl checked.
[Sep 7 23:32:15] : Dealing flop.
[Sep 7 23:32:15] : Board cards [6d 3d 9h]
[Sep 7 23:32:18] : E621 checked.
[Sep 7 23:32:22] : jjl bet 600
[Sep 7 23:32:24] : ferg12 called 600
[Sep 7 23:32:28] : Flush Royal called 600 and raised 2,000
[Sep 7 23:32:29] : E621 folded.
[Sep 7 23:32:33] : jjl called 2,000
[Sep 7 23:32:34] : ferg12 called 2,000
[Sep 7 23:32:34] : Dealing turn.
[Sep 7 23:32:34] : Board cards [6d 3d 9h 7s]
[Sep 7 23:32:37] : jjl checked.
[Sep 7 23:32:38] : ferg12 checked.


Whats the move here?

pushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

really?

pot is T10,200 and flushy has T20k left, seems like pushing is a bit adventurous

I'd bet 6k and see what happens...if someone comes over the top I flip a coin and call/fold, in limped pots with a board like this, TPTK in a 3 way raised pot on the flop isn't the monster it looks... and if you do get called, the turn bet often gives you a free showdown if they make their hand on the river.

I try not to get overly married to hands like this in spots like this, 4 people saw a flop, and 2 other people liked it enough to call a raise, betting 6k seems like a good action bet, gets action from the drawers and weeds out the snakes in the grass as you dont often get raised here unless you are beat

Glad you said that T.

I went the other side of pot, 4k. Trying to get the weaker 9/draw in and then the free showdown. JJL raised to 12k pretty swiftly so i passed, 45 was my thinking, however he later turned out to be a bit of a mug. Could he have had fd+pair? Pair+ str8 draw?

I think the error was not raising more on the flop. I probably should have raised pre flop aswell but with the deep stacks i couldn't see me putting much pressure on them!

Is it so bad to let a free card peel off. It keeps the pot smaller, you have position and can decide whether or not you want to call a river bet.

Another good idea. However i am more prone to do this with a hand that is more easily beaten on the turn. I actually think my hand is in pretty good shape vs the range of my oppos, given how deep we are i expect a raise on the flop from 2 pair/set so i am almost certain i am ahead on the flop. I really don't want to give them a free card when the pot is 10k. If it was A63 board that is exactly what i would do.

maybe, but the lead-raise-call (flop) and then check-raise line (turn) is normally either a big flopped hand,  or a draw/marginal hand that got there on the turn... so I wouldn't sweat it too much. I hate the limp preflop though,  but I have a real strong hatred of rag aces, so it might well be acceptable

Flushy played it well. 4k was a good bet, and was the last money he was putting into the pot. If he checked and the player bet out 6-8k on a brick river, Flushy may have been tempted to call.

I would have raised if it wasnt an ace, lol. I was just playing the button when we were all quite deep.

dont limp with A9 off?

4k was a terrible bet after the action on the flop, you must know your winning, the 7 doesnt help anyone and you show weakness and let the pot get away from you, i trust my insticts and push the turn, weak 9 calls drawing hand gives it up and you, barring the weak 9 two pairs take the pot down on the river

What have you ever won?

Bolt do you rule 45 out?

hes all in to your re raise on the flop if he has 45

I doubt that somehow!

If he pushes the turn, the only hands that call him will be the ones beating him. I wouldn't rule out  Ad 7d or  Ad 8d here. Though I've notes on jjl which say he's a bit fishy...

I play it the same as flushy.

LOL, alright just testing  rotflmfao rotflmfao

I know you like the opended staright in a multi way unraised pot on the flop with 2 to the flush on the board facing a re raise flushy, someone else might!!! :D :D

Not a bad play though, probably only gets looked up by a set. I would rather hit and stack though!

Ok, i was thinking about this. This might sound complete cr@p but i'll put it out there and you can tell me what you think.

I think you have to bet more on the turn. It's likely the guy has it here because of the speed he reraises, however he could have pulled an excellent bluff on you here.

You bet 4k into a 9.4k pot so it looks weak (this is where i might expect hesitation from the guy while he considers bluffing your weak bet). This may be feigned weakness so he wants to fnd out. So he raises to 12k (into a 16k pot, this is good because he only has to make one decent sized stab to  find out). This 12k really represents the rest of your stack so now he's really asking you a question here. If he has got it he knows he can push for your last 8k (and you call) on the river and if he doesn't he is going to check-fold the river and save himself 8k (obviously if you move in he only calls with the goods). Whats the minimum you are calling with here? 2pr or a set. Are you going to back one pr and draw with your stack (he might have you on 7-8). If he had a diamond draw i think he would push rather than bet only 12k. The point is that it's only 12k to him (as chip leader) and 20k to you.

If you bet 6-8k then the guy can only reraise you for your entire stack. This is going to seem less appealing to him because 8k into a 9.4k pot looks stronger. It is far less likely to be a bluff and you find out where you are (the problem is that 8k is a lot to you).

I think you can poke holes in this but he can't have you on a straight, only 2pr or a set whereas he knows you know he could have anything.

Just my (overthought) opinion.

Hey, if my last post was total bolox then pls put me out of my misery.

yeah i can see this however....(assuming the guy is a decent player and not like Flushy states somewhere a mug)

he comes form the bb so can have any 2 cards. he bets on the flop...( i am thinking he's open ended) and calls the reraise...this really shouts open ender to me as it is how I might play it.

when the 7 comes he checks...flushy bets and he reraises..essentially asking flushy for his entire stack. This to me again confirms that (If he's a decent player) he has now made the straight and want to get cash before the flush can hit.

it's  a fair bet (the 4k) and it's a good fold...IMO.

again..this is of course assuming the guy knows how to play poker.

Playing the button is so much easier when you miss!!!

I think maybe i should have bet the other side of half pot, always next time!

dont limp it preflop, mug

I am scared though, i needed 27th to get back 10% of my buyin...