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Title: Comments appreciated Post by: jezza777 on September 08, 2006, 10:37:41 PM Would appreciate your thoughts on this. 1st hand of a £10 mtt.
Game #2377422243: Hold'em NL (10/20) - 2006/09/08 - 17:32:27 (ET) Table "Special £1500 GTD 3410988 - 12" Seat 4 is the button. Seat 1: Pimpmypl (1500 in chips) Seat 2: Xklusive (1490 in chips) Seat 3: Coco24 sits out Seat 4: Danmac001 (1470 in chips) Seat 5: Jacolino (1500 in chips) Seat 6: CHETAHMAN (1480 in chips) Seat 7: Pth265 (1500 in chips) Seat 8: Scot29015 (1590 in chips) Seat 9: BuboBubo (1500 in chips) Seat 10: 9inarow (1500 in chips) Jacolino: posts small blind 10 CHETAHMAN: posts big blind 20 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Xklusive [Ah Jc] Pth265: folds Scot29015: calls 20 BuboBubo: raises to 50 9inarow: folds Pimpmypl: folds Xklusive: calls 50 Coco24: folds Danmac001: folds Jacolino: calls 40 CHETAHMAN: calls 30 Scot29015: calls 30 ----- FLOP ----- [4c 9c Ac] Jacolino: checks CHETAHMAN: checks Scot29015: bets 200 BuboBubo: raises to 400 Xklusive: raises to 1440 and is all-in Jacolino: folds CHETAHMAN: folds Scot29015: folds BuboBubo: calls 1040 ----- TURN ----- [4c 9c Ac][Js] Coco24 sits back ----- RIVER ----- [4c 9c Ac Js][8c] ----- SHOW DOWN ----- Xklusive: shows [Ah Jc] (A Flush, Ace high) BuboBubo: shows [Kc Qh] (A Flush, Ace high) BuboBubo collects 3330 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot 3330 Main pot 3330 Rake 0 Board [4c 9c Ac Js 8c] Seat 1: Pimpmypl folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: Xklusive showed [Ah Jc] and lost Seat 3: Coco24 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Danmac001 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Jacolino (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 6: CHETAHMAN (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 7: Pth265 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Scot29015 folded on the Flop Seat 9: BuboBubo showed [Kc Qh] and won (3330) with A Flush, Ace high Seat 10: 9inarow folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: Graham C on September 08, 2006, 10:44:54 PM Bubo got lucky imo. It's was a bold move going all in on that board imo with only a jack as a saver if the flush came, but it was even bolder of Bubo to call with nothing except the draw.
Would I have gone all in ? Dunno, probably not on a board like that in the first hand of a tourney. It's a 50p post in my professional opinion :D Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: jezza777 on September 08, 2006, 10:52:42 PM I am only 65% to win on the flop and 75% on the river definately not a bad beat. I am just wondering who goes in and who doesnt. I think I dont get the Kc to fold here but with a 65% chance of winning do I want them to?
Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: Nem on September 08, 2006, 10:54:32 PM I am only 65% to win on the flop and 75% on the river definately not a bad beat. ::) Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: jezza777 on September 08, 2006, 11:00:55 PM I am only 65% to win on the flop and 75% on the river definately not a bad beat. ::) LOL Seriously this is a standard beat , water off a ducks back to me . If anyone thinks its a badbeat moan I'll cough up . Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: Graham C on September 08, 2006, 11:01:05 PM You don't want them to fold but sticking your whole tourney on it is a bold move in my opinion. You we're lucky he called really, he should have folded but he got lucky.
Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: Graham C on September 08, 2006, 11:03:38 PM I don't mind reading bad beats from time to time, we all get them. I feel rude posting them really. Had one of my own a few minutes ago - I move all in with QQ on a 8 4 3 flop with 2 clubs, 1 caller, with AK, K on turn, A on river - that's a bad beat.
We should have a venting thread really where we can post them just to get them off our chests :D Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: Dewi_cool on September 08, 2006, 11:24:03 PM Jezza, considering you have been playing well all week, you should have got off this, behind to too many hands imo
Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: doubleup on September 08, 2006, 11:27:53 PM Jezza
Pre-flop either re-raise or fold. Cold calling a raise with AJo should be entirely eliminated from your play - just never do it. You could actually have been up against AxKc/Qc in this hand, a set or a made flush, but having said that, you are in another raise or fold situation. The allin is correct as you would rather take down the pot and want to force out the hand that called you. A set or a baby flush still calls, but you have outs. Unfortunately your opponent was too poor a player to fold. Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: Dewi_cool on September 08, 2006, 11:31:27 PM Jezza Pre-flop either re-raise or fold. Cold calling a raise with AJo should be entirely eliminated from your play - just never do it. You could actually have been up against AxKc/Qc in this hand, a set or a made flush, but having said that, you are in another raise or fold situation. The allin is correct as you would rather take down the pot and want to force out the hand that called you. A set or a baby flush still calls, but you have outs. Unfortunately your opponent was too poor a player to fold. I agree but he was playing a ;fish; Title: Re: Comments appreciated Post by: Canuck on September 09, 2006, 02:29:16 PM I just looked at this hand quickly, and I may be wrong, but I think I would have liked to see the turn before going all in. If you cold call the 400 then you see where the initial bettor is. A reraise all in and you can fold. If he flat calls, then proceed with caution. The J on the turn would likely cause the KQ to slow down. However, it can be said he played the min raise on the flop as a made flush and trying to maximise.
Above all, I dont think I would have gone all in, but I think his play was worse by calling. |