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Ok the title might be a little rewarding towards a few players, but over all i feel celtic were great tonight:

It took celtic 15 minutes to find there feet and the pace of the game, but when they did they were holding the ball well and stood there ground.

I dont like to be the negative and blame others, but that penalty decision was awful (to me Giggs is one of the best footballers Britain has had in years but tonight his cheating has disgusted me)

I felt the defense (for an average age of only 24) had a great game, Wilson never really put a foot wrong, Caldwell had more than 2 penalty box tackles/blockages (IMHO played great), McManus was solid.

the main reason we lost tonight was mainly the Midfields passing, in particular, Graveson and Naka

Graveson, let too many balls leave his feet and fall to a Utd players, the main being Utd's 3rd goal, and Naka treated the ball like a hot tottie (ok great Freekick, cant take that away from him) but in the first have i was desperate for him to vacate the park.

vennegoor or Hess, again was superb, and took his goal well, what a signing he is proving to be.

In the end up it was all down to the Midfirlds passing abilities, far too many went astray and never made there intended.

Over all, i feel Celtic played some great football 75% pf the park/time.

If anything it will make benfica/Copenhagen stand up and look at Celtic and see we are the 2nd place finishers to defeat.

On a finbishing note, id like to comment on our Goal tender, outstanding MOM performance, so desperately deserving of at least a point.


If we play like that the other 5 games were MUST Finish 2nd


We were never embarrassed tonight!

So Proud xx

Scottish Dave

Lol ill reply tomorrow when ive calmed down

still elated

Dave,

With all due respect - I feel that the word elated is not the word you should be using.

with all due respect mate, i watch my team tonight and i defo feel it is the correct word to use.

Dave agree with you on some of that,thought that mcgeady was a bit pants,maybe because the way that they where told to play,same with naka really negative bar his free kick,but that said it good to see the young ones coming through,wee Sean maloney looked pretty sharp when he came on,just wish that had a chance to bed in with each other.

If I'm not wrong we started tonight with 4 first teamers from last season (Boruc,McManus,Lenny and Naka). Big Jan, Jarosik,Graveson have played a handful of games between them, Graveson hasn't had any sort pre-season to speak of and has been a little rusty but is undoubtably a class player. If thats the best the top team in the EPL can throw at us in their own midden I reckon we'll do them at Parkhead. Overall I'm disappointed that we we're beaten by a dive in the box but pleased that Strachan can motivate the troops for Europe.

C'mon the hoops!

PS. Going on the pre-match punditry the biggest question of the night has to be why UEFA didn't simply award Man U 3 points for having Rooney in their team.

I think Man U could have easily scored a lot more if I'm honest, and I HATE Man U.

Hooray, some REALISM!

Well at least I cant be accused of being biased!

says who, i find your opinon why short of the truth TBH

IMH Celtic could have scored more also

He's allowed his opinion, he is who "says who".

Less aggression, please

I agree.

and Richard i am also allowed my opinion, which is to say the opposite of baron, Jesus im not challenging him to strip to the waist and fight to the death im only having an open forum opinionated conversation, is that such a crime?

Also, where is the aggression, cos i sure as hell cant see any?

Arron has never had a problem with me, and i towards him. so why try to say there is aggression?

ok, we'll agree to differ

Well I hate Liverpool and quite like Man U but i think they were well lucky.

I hate Man U AND Liverpool and I thought Man U fully deserved the victory

Yep

my bet looks good, i had celtic to get no points in six games @4/7 , so im now thinking what to spend my free money on

Celtic did miss that sitter of a header though!

It was a good game.

I think we have to take ALOT of positives out of this we were very unlucky not to take points (3 or 1) from Man U who looked very average. We lost the game because of the passing and posession in our own third of the pitch I dont think Gravesen and Lennon liked playing alongside one another and Gravesen looked half asleep.

A list of positives we should take:

- Maybe for a few weeks the english media will clamp it about their superiority over the SPL if it werent from a mare from Gravesen , lennon being non exsistant and losing  Wilson ( getting replaced by  rotflmfao rotflmfao Telfer [Who BTW should be a striker with heading like that]) it woulda been a much closer game which we coulda edged imo.

- JVoH showing he truley is a class act not just a big target man, a hell of a first touch and a great footballing brain held up the ball superbly. Other noteable mentions for Boruc and Nakamura ( who took a while to find his feet but after the goal looked cool and composed)

- We shouldnt get Michels again if he reffed our first one

- Wilson/Mick/caldwell/Naylor played fantastically... if anything the two defensive midfielders sitting in front of them casued a few who should go to the guy with the ball problems apart from that flawless Big up to our defence of whom so many questions have been asked in the past.

- Benfica and copenhagen drawing

- With the right tactics and the team gelling I truley believe we will take 1st and at the very worst 2nd in this group.

Celtic will beat Man Utd at parkhead.

No chance

What odds will u lay me and how much action will u take ;)

I think that ManUre will NOT lose at Paradise.

You do the math (make me an offer)

6/1  at £20.. £10 if u cant afford it

LOL

Explain your bet so that everyone knows.

you didnt mention what sort of action you wanted to take.

Celtic were 9/1 dogs last night to win.

After losing again 6/1 looks generous. I will be winnings this bet so it depends what odds you want to lay and how much you want to lose.

I might be stupid, but I am not an idiot ::)

Seriously though, there is no way on this earth ManUre will be 1/6 at Paradise.

What do you propose?

I will propose something more closer to the game.

No doubt about it not being a pen, but there is no doubt about who was by far the better team on paper and on the night.

celtic no points in 6 games at 4-7? really? cus them's shitty odds.

i think there is a big rod out here boldie...if he has taken that price for no points he could probably be sold the spare tower of london and eiffel tower i have in my back garden,,

Yes he's at the wind up and has his telescopic rod out this time, but I am willling to dangle a large salmon in front of our professional angler.

andy hows about I give you EVS on that bet upto a max of £200  8)

Man U the top team in the EPL? Youre havin a giraffe!

Chelsea. Argueably Liverpool. And until last season, Arsenal although I think 2nd best team in europe counts something!

My thoughts from another thread :-


Well played Man Utd, deserved win.

We only have ourselves to blame really, you cant give the ball away repeatedly in your own half & not get punished.

As I posted before the match this game came too early for Celtic, 5 of the starting line up are new signings & 3 of these have only been there for a couple of weeks, Man U have made 1 signing this close season & this team have played together for the last couple of seasons (BTW I'm not making excuses  ). This Celtic team will improve & we have a fighting chance of getting through this group.

On a final note I hope this maybe turn into a sensible discussion on the match & some people really should know better after the nonsense of the last couple of weeks on here. Passions will be running high & a few of us will no doubt have had a few beers so can we stop the trolling please 

What are you saying Mikky? That Arse are the 2nd best team in Europe rotflmfao

You're having a giraffe

 rotflmfao

BTW Nem i saw ya post in the Celtic thread........and i knew you love united really (OK u never said love but you said i dont mind'em, that'll do for me) :D

After getting beaten by Barca in the pinnacle of Europes competitions - the champions league - then yes, they are the 2nd greatest team in Europe for this season until someone better comes along.

Like the mighty spuds ???

Eurosport have a good program which is called 'Euro Top 24 clubs' or something like that. Basically, every match the top 24 clubs in Europe play (the biggest clubs in the European leagues) get awarded 3 points for a win and 1 for a draw (I think)

Anyway Arse were near the bottom - they lost more games than Spurs last season - how can they be the 2nd best team in Europe.

Going by you logic in that case Wigan are the 2nd best team in the English leagues because they lost to ManUre in the League Cup final.

 ;surrender;

Well you do actually have to play in Europe to achieve a seeding....

No you have to play in the Champions League sweetie

Don't try and sweet-talk me you no good no-show heads-up captain   ;izimbra;

lol next ul be saying tottenham are a big club not a selling club!

Overmars, Cole, Petit, Anelka come to mind.

Won a match yet this season? (in the league)

won the league in your lifetime?

The tide is turning :D

Thank you for pointing out the finest pieces of transfer business in the history of the EPL.

Certainly Anelka, Overmars and Petit fall into that category.

Michale Carrick, Aaron Lennon  :dontask:

Not even close.

Anelka cost £500K/ sold for £23M

Overmars and Petit cost £7M/ sold for £30M

 

overmars great player... paid £7m for him sold for £25m and replaced him with pires who cost £6m

anelka couldve been great... paid £0.5m for him sold for £23.5m and replaced him with henry £10.5m

petit good for us done nothing once he left( i think wenger must have known that too).. paid £3m sold for £7m and replaced with gilberto £4m

cole... possibly the best left back in the world just a horrible little runt.

nem my point is these players that you have mentioned left arsenal and apart from cole have all done nothing, they were all sold for profit, massive profit infact and been replaced by better players at a smaller cost.

this is just one reason our manger is the best ever in our history.

every team have players that leave look at man utd when ince, kanchelskis were at the top of their game.

Cole isn't a horrible little runt. He is a decent bloke off the pitch, a 'local lad' and an Arsenal fan through and through.

He left Arsenal because he is the best LB in the world and he wanted to play for the best team in the world captable of winning the league.

I cannot see Arsenal winning the league soon IMO.

Wneger is a great manager though, maybe though, just maybe - he should have shown Ashely a lickle bit more respect.

COYS

What Lennon has done since he arrived from Leeds is great news. The lad did good for us but has really grown into a top player. Wish we had a sell on clause when he goes to a big club in a few years :P

People do forget though that when Arsenal sold Petit and Overmars Arsenal didn't win the league for 3/4 seasons! It wasn't just a case of 'ah well replace them and keep winning' - not by a longshot. Transition takes time.

Winning clubs shouldn't be selling Petit/Overmars/Vieira/Anelka/Cole IMO - although I admit in most cases they were sold at the right time. Don't get me wrong, the replacements are great but the change over takes time.

This is one reasons why Arsenal have never done back to back Premierships IMO. Look at Man U (and to some extent Chelsea over the last two seasons) - same core players year in year out when they were winning.

Overmars left Arse in Summer 2000 and Arse won the league in 2001/2002

Did they leave that late? Wow. I'll shut up then.

Pwned

"He left Arsenal because he is the best LB in the world and he wanted to play for the best team in the world captable of winning the league."   he left for money, nothing more nothing less. the 1st meeting he had with chelsea last year was because he wanted 60k per week and we offered him 55k

"I cannot see Arsenal winning the league soon IMO" maybe not, i agree

"Wneger is a great manager though, maybe though, just maybe - he should have shown Ashely a lickle bit more respect" cole lost all respect of anybody at arsenal the day he met with chelsea. he shouldve shown the club alot more respect, arsenal have given him the oppotunity to be the player he is and he threw it back in our face.

"He left Arsenal because he is the best LB in the world and he wanted to play for the best team in the world captable of winning the league."   he left for money, nothing more nothing less. the 1st meeting he had with chelsea last year was because he wanted 60k per week and we offered him 55k

"I cannot see Arsenal winning the league soon IMO" maybe not, i agree

"Wneger is a great manager though, maybe though, just maybe - he should have shown Ashely a lickle bit more respect" cole lost all respect of anybody at arsenal the day he met with chelsea. he shouldve shown the club alot more respect, arsenal have given him the oppotunity to be the player he is and he threw it back in our face.

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exactly. I have heard enough about players who are "fans through and through" if you are a through and through fan and you play at the highest level you will not go meet another club behind your clubs back. It is incredibly rude and does not speak well for a true fan of the club.

and to be honest...if you are a true fan and play for one of the biggest clubs (who can still win throphies as Chelsea are not invincible and I would not be surprised if ManU pip them to the title this year..although Ruud is a big loss IMO) you don't leave that club to play for the direct competition. I can understand why someone would want to play in a different league but to leave like this and just go because you want more dosh is disrespectfull to every fan at the club and a true fan wouldn't do it.

I don't even support arsenal but this gets me really wound up.

It is like Wenger is anti English ;goodvevil;

It's like the spuds are anti trophies  ;goodvevil;

Cole isn't a horrible little runt. He is a decent bloke off the pitch, a 'local lad' and an Arsenal fan through and through.


Change cole to Campbell and @rse to Spurs.

Just face it, it dont matter a jot about what players say, they will always be driven by money and their agents.

There is NO loyalty in football any more, there hasnt been for some time.

I'm sorry Lord Kivchester but you cannae compare that **** Campbell to the Cole saga. Cole signed a new contract last year so that Arse could sell him for a profit or at least had some weight in negotiations. ****ball is a lying piece of shit, not only did he lie to us and lose us £15-£20million but he lied to Arse as well.

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well thats Nems trigger well and truly found ..... :D

I didn't turn SkySports News on for 2 days because of that bastard! ;snoopy'sguns;

Kev, i know what you are trying to say but i think the situations are different. i suppose its what side of the argument you are on. what cole and chelsea did is totally unacceptable. cole was in contract abd chelsea "tapped him up". cole didnt have to go and meet with them, chelsea should not of contacted him.

when campbell came to us, he was out of contract and could go where he likes, we didnt tap him up or approach him whilst still in contract.

As for the no loyality in football comment i have to disagree to a certain degree. campbell gave you 9 years of his career which in football terms is a hell of alot. dennis bergkamp gave us 11, vieria 9 and henry signed when evrybody thought he was off to barca.... me included. on the other hand i do know what you are saying, cole, carrick to name 2

Dan,

If it was the other way round, you would be feeling just the same about him

Giggs, Scholes, Solskjaer, Neville bros are true footballers

David Beckham as well

yes,mate, im sure i would i was just trying to put the other side into perspective

 ;iagree;

Was a sorry day when he left,  Fergie will NEVER be forgiven for that

No loyalty?

Explain all the Juve players who have stayed on?

The ones that have are all on MASSIVE contracts

 ;letsparty; :dd: ;karabiner; ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; ;letsparty;

The ones that stayed because they were asked too, they had the option.

who stayed? I thought most of the people that stayed were on long term contracts on a huge wage that they wouldn't get elsewhere because they were getting on a bit (or a lot)

Moving house is a bit of a ball ache.

Could this be a factor?

Buffon, Trezguet, Nedved

With Buffon being on a SICK-MASSIVE contract

They could have all gone. Camronesi is the only f**cker that stayed who wanted to leave but was denied. He will be leaving in January.

Trez said he will stay for this year and help get Juve back into A, then he will move on. Nedved, i don't know his future plans, the same for Buffon.

Nedved will retire after this season ends. Trez is going to ManUre and Buffon is just too god damn good.

How do you know Trez>UTD?

same place where he found out Duff was going to spurs

 ;grr; :redcard: ;frustrated;

The first and only one I've got wrong and you just keep on throwing it  back in my face ::)

PMSL

Well and truly noted ;)

In all honesty, something Spurs will never do!

 ;sleep;