Title: Shortly after the re buys Post by: ACE2M on September 20, 2006, 05:36:52 PM Get dealt 4s 7s in the shotgun, blinds at 100/200
utg+1 (14,000) limps, so do i(9500) and the BB (4200) checks 3 for the flop of. Ts 2s 4c BB checks, utg+1 bets 700 which he has done a lot, I raise to 1500 BB moves all in UTG+1 calls What to do here? I called turn = Ad utg+1 checks I check Should i have bet there? River = 9s utg+1 raises 3500 all, fold or raise? Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: Royal Flush on September 20, 2006, 05:43:58 PM call
Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: SupaMonkey on September 20, 2006, 05:48:18 PM Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: daviebhoy on September 20, 2006, 05:49:43 PM I don't see how you can play 47spades, make your hand and then fold it. I'd question limping with it in the first place but once you have made your flush you have surely have to call. I don't see why you would raise as he is only going to re-raise you back if he has you beat. You are not getting more money out of him if you have him beat.
dn Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: thetank on September 20, 2006, 05:56:30 PM Definite call for me, hang on to that last 2k if you're beat.
Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: Canuck on September 20, 2006, 08:30:04 PM Definite call for me, hang on to that last 2k if you're beat. ;iagree; You have to call after hitting your flush, that's why you stayed in the hand Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: ACE2M on September 20, 2006, 08:38:04 PM the call was fairly clear.
What do you put them on? Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: SupaMonkey on September 20, 2006, 09:05:43 PM Boldie's yer man when it comes to putting people on hands.
I think you should have bet the turn. Anytime you reraise and then the person checks to you, you should bet. 9 times out of 10 you'll take it down (hopefully i'm not teaching you to suck eggs here). Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: totalise on September 20, 2006, 09:38:28 PM Quote Boldie's yer man when it comes to putting people on hands. classic Quote I think you should have bet the turn. Anytime you reraise and then the person checks to you, you should bet. 9 times out of 10 you'll take it down (hopefully i'm not teaching you to suck eggs here). someone is all-in. You aren't taking the pot down on the turn. Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: ACE2M on September 20, 2006, 10:13:12 PM The BB clearly has 2 pairs but did he play it right?
Whats the utg+1 got? Did he play his hand well? Sitting with 74 what can you think he is raising with? Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: SupaMonkey on September 21, 2006, 01:49:38 AM Sry, ignore me. Guess i can't read today.
This is a tough one but i reckon UTG+1 has Th Tc Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: boldie on September 21, 2006, 09:36:10 AM a very tricky one. (although what you have to do is not tricky at all...you simply HAVE TO call him...will explain why)
I think BB has you beat. Don't have a lot of info to go on here but the all in after checking then a raise and a reraise smells like someone thinking "OK, I@m shortstacked here but my flush draw will bail me out if I hit...and if I don't I'll play a cash game. So I take BB for the Flush draw. (He might turn out to have a monster (pocket kings and all that but in that case he's nuts for moving all in after a raise and a reraise..he might have trips to but again it's silly play). I take him for the FD. and it will almost definetly beat you. to be honest...I have no idea what UTG+1 has here. I don't understand his betting. if he's a decent player he could have trips or an overpair to the board (on the flop) if he's rubbish he's got the Ace and hoped you would bet the turn so he could reraise you. i am thinking you are beating UTG+1 here but you might be behind to BB. it's always a call at the very least...I would be tempted to stick all my chips in the middle here but completely understand flatcalling. (which is the safer play) you have to get paid this hand and UTG will pay you. Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: SupaMonkey on September 21, 2006, 01:05:24 PM I put UTG+1 on the 10's because it seems like he's bet the flop, been raised, reraised and now he doesn't want to lose you by raising you out of the pot so he calls to keep you. I think he's going for a check-raise on the turn but you check after him so he fires on the end. Of course it may be a smaller set or he may have aces and hit them on the turn but i feel its a hand of that sort.
Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: totalise on September 21, 2006, 01:07:53 PM not that it really matters, but I would be surprised if the BB had the flush draw, I would reserve that privelage to UTG+1, and probably the non-nut flush draw given that he didn't bet the turn when the ace hit. I'll go for K/J spades with the BB having 10/2
Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: SupaMonkey on September 22, 2006, 05:05:16 PM What happened here Ace.
Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: boldie on September 23, 2006, 10:00:16 PM What happened here Ace. yeah...i wanna know if I was completely full of it or not.Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: ACE2M on September 24, 2006, 12:50:59 PM BB held 10/2 and the utg+1 had A/10, both played it badly imo.
The most interesting part was how the BB played for me, i think he should be protecting his hand against 2 aggressive players who are likely to juice the pot and make his move not so powerful, or should he be looking to get tripled up? Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: boldie on September 24, 2006, 12:58:43 PM BB held 10/2 and the utg+1 had A/10, both played it badly imo. The most interesting part was how the BB played for me, i think he should be protecting his hand against 2 aggressive players who are likely to juice the pot and make his move not so powerful, or should he be looking to get tripled up? Wow, that's very dissapointing I have to say. IMO, BB who is shortstack can't afford to checkraise here as he will always get called and there's the FD out there. I don't like that play. I would have moved in there and then if I was him. Title: Re: Shortly after the re buys Post by: totalise on September 24, 2006, 01:05:14 PM pot 700, BB has 4200. It is unlikely that he "always gets called" if he check-raises, and if that is the case, then its probably why he did it because he will most likely be getting his entire stack in with the best hand. If someone c'bets for 700, he can still raise an extra 3500. That isn't a gimme call at all
One thing that I wouldn't do in this spot is to move 4200 into a 700 pot when I flopped 2 pair, its a great way to try and sacrifice the value of a pretty strong hand. |