Title: School Dinners Post by: Sark79 on September 23, 2006, 10:46:22 AM Is it just me or are you sick of hearing about School dinners?. It seems every time I switch on the TV there is something being said about School dinners.
On the news yesterday it seemed obvious that people just aren't interested in being instructed on what to eat. Many of the healthy eating options brought in a few months back haven't been successful and only a quarter of the 'healthy option' meals on the menu are sold each day In my opinion we are being treated like morons, are people really so stupid that we need to be instructed on what to put in a pack lunch box? I saw a young guy ( Some kind of health official ) on the News this morning talking about the new plans to send out healthy eating leaflets to everyone " We will teach people what to put in their Kids pack lunches". To be perfectly honest, if I ever have Kids I already know what to put in their lunch boxes each day. It is so bloody obvious, I don't need to be educated. I am sure every Mother/Father in the country knows as well . It isn't rocket science Some of the options on the 'pack lunch' list were crazy, these included things like Brie and Cranberry sauce, etc. I can see it now, mothers going down to their local corner shops on a Sunday night " Hello there good fella, can I have some of that Brie and cranberry pie please" what a load of pi.. :D Soon we are going to be given guides on when to go to the toilet, what time to go to sleep each day, how many hours each week we are allowed to watch TV, a set number of hours we must interact with other people, a compulsory period of exercise each day, etc. Man, I really hate the way the World is heading. We are increasingly being treated like morons and prevented from using common sense Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Ginger on September 23, 2006, 10:58:52 AM Actually Sark, some parents DO need educating on what to feed their children. You would be surprised how many kids NEVER have fresh veg (or even know the name of the vegetables when shown to them!)
Some children turn up to school with nothing more than a Snikers, Mars bar and a can of coke for lunch, or a couple of bags of crisps. This is NOT a rarity! Very sad but true. IMO it's a shame that you need a licence to drive, but anyone can have a child. Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Jim-D on September 23, 2006, 11:01:43 AM Agree with Ginger, For alot of parents its just easier to chuck a couple bags of crisps and a few "treats" in a box and pack em off
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Sark79 on September 23, 2006, 11:06:56 AM I find it amazing that they don't know. I think they do know, but it needs a healthy eating campaign to shame them into doing something about it.
In today's culture, I think if a TV show like Jamie Oliver can't make positive changes, a leaflet handed out through your door is going to be no use at all. Many of the people who are responsible for feeding their Kids garbage in pack lunches will also sit at night and watch shows like Jamie Oliver. If he has had no positive effect, they are beyond help. Sad but true Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: ItsMrAlex2u on September 23, 2006, 11:46:13 AM Quaity rant there sark!
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Sark79 on September 23, 2006, 11:59:46 AM I stray from my usual posts sometimes and try to be controversial :D . There is normally only one person who ever agrees with me though, myself lol
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: TheGreenOne on September 23, 2006, 12:11:53 PM :goodpost:.... i'm with ya, I think we're on a slippery slope
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: tantrum on September 23, 2006, 12:59:36 PM On one hand Jamie Oliver is doing school dinner on the other he is a face of the big supermarket chain that sells mass produced food and ready to cook meals.
Then you have some popstars advertising fast food chains and making them cool. There is a growing problem with child obesity in this country and the fact that the sport activities are reserved for few lucky kids doesn't help the case. If the goverment really would like to do anything about healthy food it should start somewhere like decreasing licences for fast food chains that polute our hight streets as well as helping to reduce mass farming. The list can go on and on. Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Royal Flush on September 23, 2006, 01:47:15 PM Many of the people who are responsible for feeding their Kids garbage in pack lunches will also sit at night and watch shows like Jamie Oliver. Carefull, you are making a generalisation. We don't want all Jamie Oliver fans tarnished with the same brush. Do not persecute these people just because they like watching Jamie Oliver. Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: AdamM on September 23, 2006, 01:54:54 PM are people really so stupid that we need to be instructed on what to put in a pack lunch box? sadly, yes. I am sure every Mother/Father in the country knows as well . sadly not a compulsory period of exercise each day, etc. wrightey is on to is. He's suggesting a massive overhaul of the physical education programme culminating in a quarterly bleep tests for all secondry education kids and the results be included in the scools table ranking. long hard road with that campaign I'm afraid. I think if a TV show like Jamie Oliver can't make positive changes ...If he has had no positive effect, actually he's had a massive effect and I'm sure he hasn't finished yet. good luck to the bloke. getting kids to eat NO (not less, NO) reconstituted junk is a great project. I think those parents up north doing chipshop runs at lunchtime for their kids should be ashamed of themselves. I went on a family holiday recently and every restaurant we went to had a kids menu where every option was burger & chips, sausage & chips, chicken nugets & chips, etc. My poor kid doesn't like chips and would much rather have had a kid sized potion of what we were having. suprisingly when kids are asked to name their favourite dish spagetti bolognaise comes out a clear favourite. If McDonalds didnt give away a toy with the meal, most small kids wouldn't be interested in the food. by the time they're too old for the toy it's deep in their subconscious that McDs is a treat. buy the kids a £3 toy and cook them a nice shepards pie ;kev; Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Dewi_cool on September 23, 2006, 02:42:12 PM If you are stuck for shepard's, we have plenty here :D
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: AdamM on September 23, 2006, 02:47:49 PM ;D
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: ifm on September 23, 2006, 03:51:31 PM There was an interesting piece on the news the other day, i don't remember where it was but a group of mothers fed up with the new menu at their kids school were taking orders at the school gates and fetching food to the kids from the local chippie.
They were saying that the new menu was not very varied and that many of the kids simply did not like the food on offer and as a concequence were not eating at school at all. It's one thing to offer a balanced menu and another entirely to offer nothing the kids want!! Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: AdamM on September 23, 2006, 03:54:09 PM yeah, thats who I meant. the women in question didnt look like they were handling their first bag of chips
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Sark79 on September 23, 2006, 05:07:07 PM Many of the people who are responsible for feeding their Kids garbage in pack lunches will also sit at night and watch shows like Jamie Oliver. Carefull, you are making a generalisation. We don't want all Jamie Oliver fans tarnished with the same brush. Do not persecute these people just because they like watching Jamie Oliver. I have nothing against Jamie Oliver. He taught me how to make bread. I didn't like the herbs in it though, so altered his recipe :D Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Claw75 on September 23, 2006, 06:57:21 PM You are right Sark - the vast majority of parents know what food is good for their kids and what isn't, but there are some people around that just don't seem to get it. I remember when I was weaning my daughter there was something in the news at the time about young babies being fed pureed burgers and chips etc, following literally their health visitors' advice just to give their babies 'the same as you have'. On the other extreme there was also a story in the news about a year ago about a baby/toddler who had died having been fed nothing but fruit and vegetables.
I think a lot of the trouble is the way food manufaturers package stuff that really isn't healthy, into making it look like 'good' food - 'no added sugar' etc. Unless you really study the labels is very easy to be drawn in by it. Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Sark79 on September 23, 2006, 07:01:19 PM I think a lot of the trouble is the way food manufaturers package stuff that really isn't healthy, into making it look like 'good' food - 'no added sugar' etc. Unless you really study the labels is very easy to be drawn in by it. Yep, I agree with this. In some ways it is similar to the bad parenting that is given to some Venus Fly Traps by feeding them things such as burgers. Parents think just becasuse they eat burgers, their fly traps will like them as well. A good parent feeds their plants on rain water Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Claw75 on September 23, 2006, 07:08:21 PM I think a lot of the trouble is the way food manufaturers package stuff that really isn't healthy, into making it look like 'good' food - 'no added sugar' etc. Unless you really study the labels is very easy to be drawn in by it. Yep, I agree with this. In some ways it is similar to the bad parenting that is given to some Venus Fly Traps by feeding them things such as burgers. Parents think just becasuse they eat burgers, their fly traps will like them as well. A good parent feeds their plants on rain water surely a good parent feeds their fly traps flies??? Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Sark79 on September 23, 2006, 07:31:43 PM It is true that some parents think that way, but I have adopted an alternative style of parenting. Venus flytraps can survive without eating flys. Only yesterday I was in B&Q and was speaking to another parent at the baby bio counter, she believed in the more traditional approach to flytrap parenting, regular flys and insects. I am not against this approach and if my flytap should chance upon a meaty fly then I won't be angry with him. As long as I offer my support, that is all that matters :D . He has to make his own decisions
Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Colchester Kev on September 23, 2006, 07:38:36 PM yeah, thats who I meant. the women in question didnt look like they were handling their first bag of chips Adam .... break out the champers mate ...... That comment made me PMSL. RESPECT :) Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: madasahatstand on September 23, 2006, 08:47:15 PM rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao
joining kev in his hearty laughter!! :) Title: Re: School Dinners Post by: Trace on September 24, 2006, 10:33:00 AM There was an interesting piece on the news the other day, i don't remember where it was but a group of mothers fed up with the new menu at their kids school were taking orders at the school gates and fetching food to the kids from the local chippie. They were saying that the new menu was not very varied and that many of the kids simply did not like the food on offer and as a concequence were not eating at school at all. It's one thing to offer a balanced menu and another entirely to offer nothing the kids want!! But the kids prob dont want it because it is healthy and has veggies and all they are used to is crap!! If kids were fed more fruit and veg from a young age they wouldn't hate it at school so much. My two both have school dinners, costs me a bomb, but 1 im to lazy to make packed lunch and 2 it comes home uneaten. Least with the school dinners I know they are eating something healthy, Jake often comes home and tells me what he's had to eat, he's desperate to grow at the moment then he can touch the floor when sat on his MX bike, so the more veggies he has the better as far as he is concerned. |