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Title: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Graham C on September 23, 2006, 09:48:30 PM Right, I definatly showed strength preflop by reraising, but perhaps an iffy call with the Ace.
PokerStars Game #6392540735: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/09/23 - 16:34:56 (ET) Table 'Caelium V' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 2: ceegan ($26.05 in chips) Seat 3: feyyd ($9.50 in chips) Seat 5: Graham0573 ($33.65 in chips) Seat 6: TanOrpheus ($66.60 in chips) Seat 7: RobbieV ($87.25 in chips) Seat 8: BigBonnie97 ($21.85 in chips) Seat 9: tawlkewl1 ($24.05 in chips) Graham0573: posts small blind $0.25 TanOrpheus: posts big blind $0.50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Graham0573 [Qd Qc] RobbieV: raises $1.50 to $2 BigBonnie97: calls $2 tawlkewl1: folds ceegan: folds feyyd: folds Graham0573: raises $3 to $5 TanOrpheus: folds RobbieV: folds BigBonnie97: calls $3 *** FLOP *** [5s 5c Ah] Graham0573: bets $5 BigBonnie97: raises $6 to $11 Graham0573: calls $6 *** TURN *** [5s 5c Ah] [7c] Graham0573: checks BigBonnie97: bets $5.85 and is all-in Graham0573: calls $5.85 *** RIVER *** [5s 5c Ah 7c] [Jc] *** SHOW DOWN *** Graham0573: shows [Qd Qc] (two pair, Queens and Fives) BigBonnie97: mucks hand Graham0573 collected $44 from pot BigBonnie97 said, "wow u r stupid" *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $46.20 | Rake $2.20 Board [5s 5c Ah 7c Jc] Seat 2: ceegan folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: feyyd (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Graham0573 (small blind) showed [Qd Qc] and won ($44) with two pair, Queens and Fives Seat 6: TanOrpheus (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: RobbieV folded before Flop Seat 8: BigBonnie97 mucked [9d 9s] Seat 9: tawlkewl1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Anyway, he got the right arse and began to give me the abuse. Does it not work both ways? He can't call my reraise without something surely? Then I bet on the flop and he reraises to which I call. Then he moves all in for the last $5.85 but by this time I'm pretty much commited and as it turns out he only has 9's. My point is we can't always fold to one overcard on the board can we? He obviously wasn't bothered about it. I appreciate I may have been lucky to get away from this and had the pot not have been on 3/1 to get the money on the flop, I may have layed them down, but surely I had odds on this? Finally, I am new to cash games, I appreciate this, but two decent hands I've won recently, I've been abused for and I need to know if it's generally bad play by me or just that they are bitter about me taking the money :D Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: boldie on September 23, 2006, 10:03:22 PM I think you played it fine. there's only one overcard on the board and with pocket queens that's pretty much all you're hoping for. if there had been AK on the board you probably should have folded. I would probably re-raise the flop but flatcalling can definetly be defended.
indeed the calling of the all in needed to be done as you're commited. you played it fine and the guy is nuts by thinking he's ahead after you call. Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Graham C on September 23, 2006, 10:07:50 PM Thanks Boldie :)
He obvioulsy wasn't bothered that I may have had the ace after calling his reraise on the flop either so I don't know why he got all arsey with me. Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: boldie on September 23, 2006, 10:09:35 PM Thanks Boldie :) He obvioulsy wasn't bothered that I may have had the ace after calling his reraise on the flop either so I don't know why he got all arsey with me. bad losers can be found everywhere.I would put his name in my notebook if I were you as he probably doesn't analyse his own play and he'll make the same mistake again. Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 23, 2006, 10:18:21 PM I would give this one up on the flop personally. Fold to his C/R
Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: boldie on September 23, 2006, 10:25:29 PM I would give this one up on the flop personally. Fold to his C/R he doesn't check raise though. he just re raisesfor 6$ (on a 5$ raise) that doesn't signify strengt to me. Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 23, 2006, 11:31:15 PM ok misread that he c/r. it is enough to make me fold on this flop. what more strength do u want?? He raises YOU, the preflop reraiser when there is an ace showing on the flop too. Is this not strength?
Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Horneris on September 24, 2006, 12:05:05 AM I think you played it fine. there's only one overcard on the board and with pocket queens that's pretty much all you're hoping for. if there had been AK on the board you probably should have folded. I would probably re-raise the flop but flatcalling can definetly be defended. indeed the calling of the all in needed to be done as you're commited. you played it fine and the guy is nuts by thinking he's ahead after you call. Fantastic Analysis Boldie. Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Graham C on September 24, 2006, 12:21:55 AM ok misread that he c/r. it is enough to make me fold on this flop. what more strength do u want?? He raises YOU, the preflop reraiser when there is an ace showing on the flop too. Is this not strength? This works both ways surely? I've reraised a raise preflop, then bet a decent part of the pot on flop. He's only reraised me $6 on the flop. Had he moved all in here, I'm sure I'd have folded but for $6 and 3/1 on my cash, I'm can't lay down a decent hand that I could be in the lead with. I had shown strength already and he still tried to bluff it, he didn't know I didn't have an ace either and was a braver move by him. I think the bad move from my part came from calling and not slapping the fish all in on the turn. Perhaps the call was a sign of weakness. It was obviously going to go all in so why wait for him to put it in. Saying that, it's taken me 2 horus to think of that, Like I said, I'm still learning :D Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 24, 2006, 12:39:04 AM I give up.
Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Graham C on September 24, 2006, 01:24:04 AM Don't give up.
Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 24, 2006, 01:32:12 AM Too late.
Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: SupaMonkey on September 25, 2006, 12:48:05 AM The check-call on the turn is standard if you think you're ahead but i don't think you're ahead 1 in 4 times on the flop there.
Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 25, 2006, 12:54:13 AM I agree with the call on the turn, if you call the flop you cal the turn. I agree exactly with what you said SupaMonkey.
Title: Re: OK here's another I may have been lucky in Post by: hutchylad on September 25, 2006, 02:23:17 PM As I am rather new to cash games, not quite sure about this, although from what I see, he has nothing to be crazy about... For sure yo ignored the A, as did he, also there is a paired board, which in my eyes is dangerous. But I definitely wouldn't mock your play there, in the end the best hand won! :D
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