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playing a stt 4 left 3 get money and you are chip leader blinds are 100/200 set up as follows

Button has 4000 small blind has 3400 big blind you has 6000 and utg has 500 these are not exact chips but very close.

Under gun folds button folds small blind calls the 100 and you check with 67

Flop comes 589 with two spades small blind then moves in the 400 pot with remaining 3200.
Pretty sure he has flush draw do you call or wait until short stack has gone and try to make the money.

Just wondered peoples opinions i know what i did and would do just wondered what others would say on the matter cheers.

that kind of depends on what I have buddy.

insta call for me, not even a question!

DOH!...why didn't I read the first post properly.

you flopped the straight..it's a call.

insta call all day long, you are a big fave to win the hand and even if mateboy sucks out , you still have 2600 left - 5 x as much as the shortest stack

NO DECISION - I would beat him into the pot!!

Take this pot and the tourney is urs

call

i agree you win that pot you should win the stt.

I didnt win the pit i got beat by flush then next hand i double up the shortstack. Then few hands later get knocked out in 4th lol. No regrets id rather try and win 1st prize than sit around and limp into 3rd prize with no stack.

ICM says that you get 37.5% equity for calling and 35.5% for folding, quite close.

Why didn't you move in preflop?

Isn't that a bit brave with 67o?

Post-flop I agree with pretty much everyone else - insta-call. If he outdraws you, you just have to sit still for a little while and wait for the short-stack to go bust and hopefully still have enough chips (2k?) left to play with for the bigger money.

No, the button limp is weak and the very short stack is on the big blind next hand. How can they call.

really? you flop a straight and are ahead but for fear of not reaching third place you'd give up a great chance to win it?
You'd still have chips left (more then shortstack) I don't see how you can fold this.

I think SupaMonkey is talking about the other players and how they couldn't call an all-in by gmoney. Actually have to agree that regardless of your cards the all-in can probably be justified here, just personally don't like it that much - not willing to risk a significant amount of my stack (3400 of 6000), in the 5% that the SB would call and you'd loose to the small gain you can make by pushing preflop (pick up blinds worth 400), which is a pretty insignificant amount considering your current stack.

damn pretending to work while actually reading this site is causing some booboo's on my part.

Sorry Suppa.

i dont like the all in for two reasons one the short stack is moving sometime and he may just call second with my stack there is no point moving in i think to win 200.


I agree with everyone else its instant call after flop and if i lose then so be it but i cant see the point in moving in to add what would be a small percentage to my stack. One of the other reasons i didnt as i had been playing agressive and bullying taking pots on the flop and pre flop bullying. In fact if the small blind raised then i may have consider the re steal with 67 but not all in to win 200 dont think that is the right move. Does anyone?

As to whether or not you call, I wonder how sure you can be here that he has the flush draw - surely it's a horrible move by him to push with a draw into such a small pot, given short stack's situation. If he has a draw, he's probably going to get to see at least one more card pretty cheaply, and he might well get to see the river as well without jeopardising his third place. I think my first thought might be something like a vulnerable top pair or maybe 2 pair.

Given which...


This is only right in hindsight, isn't it, once you know that he can outdraw you to the flush..? Otherwise I imagine the calling equity is higher, no..?

As to whether you should push pre-flop - I think whether or not that's viable depends on the structure of the tournament and how aggressively you've played it so far. If you were playing some sort of speed/turbo affair where the blinds are about to go up fast, then I think an all-in from you might serve a purpose, encouraging the others to give you a walk or two. Otherwise it's probably pretty pointless with the blinds at these levels IMO, since it prevents you from hitting a hand like you did here.

why are you worried about making it into the money? YOU are the one with the massive chiplead, you can't get knocked out this hand. This makes a huge difference. You'd still have 13 BBs if you lose...... and you flopped a straight, get it called.

You lot aren't taking in all the info out there.

Why would anyone limp at that stage of the tourney? I think it is very weak or very strong. Even with aces you really want to raise preflop here imo (i.e. probably weak).

Instacall.

I'd be raising preflop a lot of times here. Probably not all-in at this stage, if the blinds were 200/400 then I'd be moving in nearly every time.