Title: I hate making calls like that... Post by: tantrum on September 29, 2006, 02:59:19 PM FT MTT,
Must say that reading posts on blonde has influenced my call. 1st i thought if he had bigger pair, he would re-raise me, second i thought to myself i can't always assume that the other person has a better hand then me, and 3rd it is long way to the money so either go broke or double up. Ps the chips stacks are not given here (don't why but after this call i would be felft with 400 chips. Dealer: Hand #1049478875 Dealer: ratmandave posts the small blind of 40 Dealer: PsychoMage posts the big blind of 80 Dealer: You have been dealt [Jd Jc] Dealer: luckylyndee folds Dealer: Gen-Ace-X raises to 240 Dealer: jamesw07 calls 240 Dealer: Pinedawg folds Dealer: StinkeU folds Dealer: UA folds Dealer: FlopyMcNutz folds Dealer: ratmandave folds Dealer: PsychoMage calls 160 Dealer: The flop is [8c 5s 3h] Dealer: PsychoMage checks Dealer: Gen-Ace-X bets 350 Dealer: jamesw07 raises to 2,780, and is all in Dealer: PsychoMage folds Dealer: Gen-Ace-X has 15 seconds left to act Dealer: Gen-Ace-X calls 2,430 Dealer: jamesw07 shows [Td Ts] Dealer: Gen-Ace-X shows [Jd Jc] Dealer: The turn is [6c] Dealer: The river is [2d] Dealer: jamesw07 shows a pair of Tens Dealer: Gen-Ace-X shows a pair of Jacks Dealer: Gen-Ace-X wins the pot (6,320) with a pair of Jacks Dealer: jamesw07 stands up Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: totalise on September 29, 2006, 03:04:22 PM good call
Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: boldie on September 29, 2006, 03:48:00 PM yeah...i would be quite happy to make that call on that board.
but, especially if you're uncomfortable with that call, it's a great call when someone asks for all your chips. Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: M3boy on September 29, 2006, 04:17:53 PM Correct call in my opinion.
Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: Graham C on September 29, 2006, 04:22:27 PM Nice going. I've had a few situations like this recently and find them everso uncomfortable too.
Good call. Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: MrsLime on September 29, 2006, 05:51:26 PM I don't see the point of this thread. If you want analysis, you should withold your opponent's hand (at least initially).
As it is, blinded by hindsight no one is going to say "Bad call" because obviously in this instance it was a good call. I just don't think anything is gained by posting a hand and everyone seeing that you were right & posting "I agree". Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: totalise on September 29, 2006, 05:54:57 PM I don't see the point of this thread. If you want analysis, you should withold your opponent's hand (at least initially). As it is, blinded by hindsight no one is going to say "Bad call" because obviously in this instance it was a good call. I just don't think anything is gained by posting a hand and everyone seeing that you were right & posting "I agree". I dont see the point of this post. If you dont want to rejoice in someone posting a hand that they would have folded before the advice on blonde , then I recommend you try your best to ignore the thread. I dont think anything is gained by posting in a thread merely to say "I dont see the point in this thread" Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: MrsLime on September 29, 2006, 06:11:48 PM This forum is 'Poker Hand Analysis'. Where is the analysis in this thread?
Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: totalise on September 29, 2006, 06:17:32 PM This forum is 'Poker Hand Analysis'. Where is the analysis in this thread? Quote 1st i thought if he had bigger pair, he would re-raise me, second i thought to myself i can't always assume that the other person has a better hand then me, and 3rd it is long way to the money so either go broke or double up. Ps the chips stacks are not given here (don't why but after this call i would be felft with 400 chips. is pretty good analysis indeed... and doesn't require much additional analysis. Obviously if it was wrong, there would be people pointing out where it is wrong. Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: tantrum on September 29, 2006, 07:15:48 PM MrsLime,
Perhaps sometimes while reading something you should pay more attention to detail? The death of the author starts when the text is completed. From then on, is up to the reader to interpret the text. As totalise kindly replied to your post; my hand was an analysis in itself, and hopefully some will find it useful and next time when they are faced with similar situation, they will try to analyse the action before making a good call. This thread is not called - ' bad beat'/ 'unlucky' / 'what shall I do' either, therefore I feel entitled to post this hand as any other user of this forum. Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: boldie on September 29, 2006, 07:40:33 PM MrsLime, Perhaps sometimes while reading something you should pay more attention to detail? The death of the author starts when the text is completed. From then on, is up to the reader to interpret the text. As totalise kindly replied to your post; my hand was an analysis in itself, and hopefully some will find it useful and next time when they are faced with similar situation, they will try to analyse the action before make a good call. This thread is not called - ' bad beat'/ 'unlucky' / 'what shall I do' either, therefore I feel entitled to post this hand as any other user of this forum. Agreed..and even if you do post the entire hand some analysis can still be done. Like I said I'd be happy to make that call on this board (which in itsself might be interpreted as constructive critisism to you feeling uncomfortable about the hand). I think people can pick up tips from every hand that gets posted on here to be honest, that';s why I love this forum. Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: Graham C on September 29, 2006, 11:00:03 PM Mrs Lime is firm and harsh. This I've learnt from other posts.
Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: SupaMonkey on September 30, 2006, 12:36:40 AM Mrs Lime usually gives a good HA imo.
Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: Moskvich on September 30, 2006, 01:00:10 AM At the risk of diverting the thread back to the original topic slightly - I think I'd also be very happy making this call. I'd instinctively be less happy about a smaller but significant raise where i'm going to face another decision on the turn. If he's got you beat I suspect he plays it slower than this. I think the only hand I'd potentially be worried about would be queens, but that's a pretty slim chance.
Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: tantrum on September 30, 2006, 10:06:23 AM My first thought was that perhaps he has flat called with bigger pair, but then this is a low buy in tourney when the big pairs are played fast. Also his actions before this hand were usually fast re-raises of big hands. So one can say it was player dependent decision.
Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: LeKnave on September 30, 2006, 10:43:29 AM Dealer: jamesw07 calls 240 I think this tells you he doesnt have KK or AA, the main worry would be QQ, but maybe he would re-raise with that preflop aswell... nice call. Title: Re: I hate making calls like that... Post by: tantrum on September 30, 2006, 11:16:37 AM I was thinking
he did not have QQ as with shallow stacks low buy-in tourney QQ are played fast. So it was kind of instinct call but based on the previous actions of this player. The more i play the more I realise that paying attention to betting patterns of your opponent is important. Also I have decided to keep a log of my successful reads and unsuccesful ones. Kind of of diary of my reads. It makes me focus more on players and their actions rather then cards I have. One of the good excercises to do so is to play MTT with your hole cards covered. It is a great fun but it teaches you how to play a position and pay attention to other's betting patterns. You can never limp while performing this excercise. And most of you hands should be played from the late position. |