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Title: what to do now...
Post by: snoopy1239 on September 30, 2006, 11:44:56 AM

Seat 2: memustang ( $51.40 )
Seat 5: Bill_OSmiley ( $365.55 )
Seat 1: snoopy1239 ( $465.87 )
Seat 3: Pkrjnks ( $495.20 )
Seat 4: Peyton55 ( $61.90 )

memustang posts small blind [$2].
Pkrjnks posts big blind [$4].

Dealt to snoopy1239 [  Kc Ks ]

Peyton55 calls [$4].
Bill_OSmiley calls [$4].
snoopy1239 raises [$20].
Peyton55 calls [$16].
Bill_OSmiley calls [$16].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 7h, 3c ]

Peyton55 checks.
Bill_OSmiley checks.
snoopy1239 bets [$15].
Peyton55 calls [$15].
Bill_OSmiley raises [$60].
snoopy1239 raises [$90].
Peyton55 is all-In  [$26.90]
Bill_OSmiley calls [$45].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]

Bill_OSmiley is all-In  [$240.55]



Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: tantrum on September 30, 2006, 12:07:31 PM
Who are the players that you are against you?

any more info on them?

perhaps you are behind.... your KK doesn't look healthy here


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: snoopy1239 on September 30, 2006, 12:16:17 PM
I don't know anything about my opponents.


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: tantrum on September 30, 2006, 01:07:34 PM
On the flop the pot is 66, your bet of 15 is pretty small.  the pot now is 96 when bill re-raises 60.so it is 156 in the pot and your re-raise is 90.
so the pot is 246 +peytons 26(he is getting great odds to push with any pair or draw now) = 266 so bill has to only call 45 (5.9-1 i think) to see the next card.  After this action you still did not get any decent info if your kings are any good here. (if I have miscalculated the pot sizes please anyone to correct me)

Is this Limit?

or pot limit BTW?
I am not good a cash player but your initial raise is too small to start with if this is NHLE. With this flop I really want to know where I am, and dump one of the other players. and your re-raises seem to me being weak.  The check raise tells you that bill has probably something unless he is bluffing or he thinks you have a AK, AQ and so on.

after the turn you KK looks even more vulnerable, as 5 pp have you beat. you don't have any draws, 2 K can help you but it will be against the possibility of straight.

you have to pay now 240 to win 511.  2-1 odds i think.  I am not good in math and odds , but perhaps someone might answer if calling this would be a good idea.


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: SupaMonkey on September 30, 2006, 04:55:03 PM
I think Bill has a set.


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: temp0r on October 01, 2006, 01:49:04 PM
the turns obviously scared him. i don't know why cause it's obvious you're not playing for the straight. however i feel you're still behind to both of them here and give it up.


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: ACE2M on October 01, 2006, 02:47:58 PM
fold


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: Trix on October 01, 2006, 09:31:26 PM
Another tough hand!

Maybe he has a set or 76 and moves in to price out a flush draw.
Perhaps he flopped the straight but the only hands I can see u beating here are 88 and 99. So i probably fold it

Did you call?


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: snoopy1239 on October 01, 2006, 09:39:28 PM
I really didn't think he has a set. In fact, I will say that he didn't have the set.

From my experience, few are shrewd enough to flat call a re-re-raise, they just shove it all-in.

Also, if they are of a trapping nature, they just flat-call the initial raise and wait for the action on the Turn before jamming.

Can anyone guess what he had?


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: boldie on October 01, 2006, 09:48:23 PM
I didn't post in this one as it 's just too bloody difficult. I didn't take him for a flopped straight, if you also say he didn't have a set then I am almost have to go for ace 5 or just poorly played aces.


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: snoopy1239 on October 01, 2006, 09:55:32 PM
If anyone can work out what he had, I'll give you the money myself.

Not A-5, A-A or a set.

Any other stabs?


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: Bongo on October 02, 2006, 02:34:11 AM
89o


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 02, 2006, 03:41:56 AM
 Ahrt 4h ?

I don't think he has a straight here either.


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: snoopy1239 on October 02, 2006, 08:55:19 AM
Both wrong I'm afraid.

I won't beat around the bush cos you're not going to get it. I folded and he turned over 6-3 off to take the pot down.

Work that one out...


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: tantrum on October 02, 2006, 11:14:11 AM
 I wonder if you have bet more on the flop, would you find yourself in this situation?     You will never know, but If i decide to re-raise someone I fire 1.5 x pot or 3 x times their inital raise, unless of course I want to keep my opponents in the pot.  with this flop though I want to take the pot there and then or if they still call it, the turn will decide further action.  what was peytong hand btw?


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: ACE2M on October 02, 2006, 11:32:34 AM
calling a player who will back up a premium pair with his stack with any two cards is a very real strategy in cash game play.


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: Trix on October 02, 2006, 04:01:33 PM
Both wrong I'm afraid.

I won't beat around the bush cos you're not going to get it. I folded and he turned over 6-3 off to take the pot down.

Work that one out...


I was closest I said he could have had 2 pair (i said 76)! Must be enough for half the money!?


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: Royal Flush on October 02, 2006, 05:06:27 PM
I havent read the replies yet but how did you raise just 30 more when he had raised 45 ? You raised less than min!


Title: Re: what to do now...
Post by: Bongo on October 02, 2006, 05:09:33 PM
The other guy has to call 45 though.

I guess it's saying snoops put 90 more into the pot on top of his 15, not raise to 90.