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http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/viewarticle.php?id=1481&sort=author

Seems like Nolan Dalla resignation from poker stars is an admission that they will be booting US players pretty soon. A lot of the US online pro's where holding out hope that 'stars' would fight on.

Looks like the complete opposite.

He said sites that boot US players will not have personal arrestead, those that keep them will be.

Indeed, he makes reference to Party and 888 taking immediate action, but no reference to Stars doing likewise.

Ok, here's my prediction.

A chinese (most likely but it could be any eastern company) outfit opens a poker/betting site that takes credit cards etc. from anywhere including the US. The US kicks up a fuss and the chinese government tells the US to shove their laws up their arse.

GO STARS.

Yep, looks like they will continue to accept US players and have no staff presense within the US. Gonna be costly to have toll free numbers routed out of the states though in that case.

Er? Haven't you been reading the law. This won't work unless the US citizen has an internationally based credit card. US financial institutions will not legally be allowed to send customer payments to gambling sites. The individual will have to open an international bank account, or find a way to transfer funds to somewhere like neteller or paypal and go from there. In which case, he could use any poker site he wanted (that allows US players)

I thought i read that they couldn't tell the banks what to do.

I especially like his comment about people who say "don't worry" and people who said "It'll never pass" when the law was first introduced. We had this discussion at the time and I remember LOADS of people on here who thought the exact same thing. The American government is not something to be taken lightly when it comes to these things, the old "But surely they have some common sense" adage does not apply to these people.

I for one hope that one of these days the Americans stand up to their government and legislature (not just the Bush administration but all Senators and congressmen and lobbyist) and start up a revolution to replace their current incredibly corrupt system...but I don't expect them to...and that's the sad part.
Like the man said "If you aren't outraged, you're not paying attention" and most people (not just in the states) are too caught up in their own little world to actually pay attention to what's really going on.

it's not actually...it's fairly cheap. I worked for an IT company that routed all it's lines to Scotland from all over europe. Sure the bill is big but you pay a set amount...it'll cost ya but not much more then internal toll free nr's. and it is well worth it as the plus side is massive.

the main problem (as he quite rightly outlines ) is that you WILL still be able to be prosecuted once you ENTER the US. So if people who were to work for a company like that were to come and watch, or play in, the WSOP they could get arrested.

The law also says that gambling is illegal in most states of America - still doesnt stop anyone.

Paypal is essentially an American company. they will not go against this law..you can eb assured of that.

you read wrong my friend. even the banks will be able to be prosecuted under this new piece of legislation.

Glad i added something of substance to this conversation then.

Or any other Financial Institution

stars support is email based anyway so no cost to them there

Ahh, but that law is a poorly worded piece of sh*t for all intents and purposes outside of sports book betting. A poker only site has never been procecuted for breaking the law... yet. There was a lengthy article by a senator who sucessfully campaigned against the last piece of legistration they tried to get through congress who basically outlined the law as it currently stood and why it didnt apply to poker. Thats why they are rushing this new legistlation in on the back of an unrelated port security bill.

A grey area, just like cardrooms operating like gutshot in this country. It wasnt de-facto "illegal", and for individual citizens it still wont be illegal in many states. But for the operators, it will be, as this article points out. And they will face procecution if they enter the US, or have staff working within the US.