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Title: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 05, 2006, 10:39:49 PM
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
MTT Table 9 12154781-14 Omaha Pot Limit 50/100
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Hand Start.
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 1 : domino77 has $7,290
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 2 : Go Horse 18 has $14,270
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 3 : allin-g0at has $1,830
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 4 : AcesNova has $1,410
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 5 : ZZ has $1,700
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 7 : newmanseye1 has $5,130
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 8 : M22RKP has $8,180
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 9 : ISUwhitesox has $1,940
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : ZZ is the dealer.
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : newmanseye1 posted big blind.
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Game [14] started with 8 players.
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Oct 5 22:35:10] : Seat 7 : newmanseye1 has 9s 8d As Ah
[Oct 5 22:35:16] : M22RKP folded.
[Oct 5 22:35:16] : ISUwhitesox folded.
[Oct 5 22:35:16] : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Level up in: 4 min. Break in: 36 min. Players : 83
[Oct 5 22:35:22] : domino77 called 100
[Oct 5 22:35:22] : Go Horse 18 folded.
[Oct 5 22:35:22] : allin-g0at folded.
[Oct 5 22:35:25] : AcesNova called 100
[Oct 5 22:35:26] : ZZ folded.
[Oct 5 22:35:30] : newmanseye1 raised 300
[Oct 5 22:35:33] : domino77 called 300
[Oct 5 22:35:33] : AcesNova called 300
[Oct 5 22:35:34] : Dealing flop.
[Oct 5 22:35:34] : Board cards [Tc 7d Ac]
[Oct 5 22:35:36] : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Level up in: 4 min. Break in: 36 min. Players : 83
[Oct 5 22:35:39] : newmanseye1 bet 1,200
[Oct 5 22:35:42] : domino77 folded.
[Oct 5 22:35:43] : AcesNova folded.
[Oct 5 22:35:45] : newmanseye1 wins 1,200 as the last player standing
[Oct 5 22:35:48] : Hand is over.
[Oct 5 22:35:48] : 
[Oct 5 22:35:48] : Stakes: 50/100 Current level: 3 Level up in: 4 min. Break in: 36 min. Players : 83


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: jezza777 on October 05, 2006, 10:42:44 PM
check  enabling people to hit the flush then call their bet and ship in when you fill on the river.


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 05, 2006, 10:56:15 PM
I  have the nut straight draw and the current nuts, would a check here be right or should i have bet weak instead?


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: jezza777 on October 05, 2006, 10:59:29 PM
Ages since I played omaha but I think you can affford to check here . I rarely advocate slowplaying in NLH let alone omaha but here I think you can and should take the risk.


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: Ironside on October 06, 2006, 12:35:46 AM
i disagree you played the hand the best you could and extracted the maxium without risking getting crippled by a tyrn from hell

any jack 7 or 8 or club will have you sweating calling off your chips hoping the board will pair


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: jezza777 on October 06, 2006, 12:40:47 AM
but sometimes you have to take a risk to get paid.


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: Ironside on October 06, 2006, 12:46:28 AM
but its better to win 1000 small pots than to lose a few big pots

i pick up most of my chips in a comp winning small pots

i lose most of my chips in comps with the best hand getting drawn out on

if i pick up enough small pots it makes up for the big pots i lose


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: jezza777 on October 06, 2006, 12:48:44 AM
Fair enough, do you check in a cash game?


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: Ironside on October 06, 2006, 11:52:07 AM
not in omaha i forgot some more danger cards any K or Q

basically your looking for the board to pair or for a 6 or lower for both turn and river even if the board pairs you only have the 2nd nuts i've lost count of how many times i have top boat and my oppo has quads

so you want to get you money in while your ahead if you let them catch up you are faced with folding the hand or calling while behind


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: MrsLime on October 06, 2006, 03:12:28 PM
I  have the nut straight draw

Um, no you don't!

Anyway, the question might be not how you have played this hand badly, but how you play other hands badly.

From what I have observed (and admittedly this is more for cash games), the point of Omaha is to always bet/raise the maximum at every possible opportunity.  In order for this to be profitable, you must be able to read other players better than they can read you, and know when to fire again and when to bail.  Once you have established yourself as the table idiot, you are more likely to get paid in this hand by someone with, say, 789T.

Anyway, I agree with Ironside, in that although this is a great flop for you, there are many cards that you really don't want to see on the turn, especially if it gets checked round.  You are dog to the guy with 9dJcQdKc

(PS. Last weekend, I got stacked THREE times in two hours with nut full house vs quads!)


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: snoopy1239 on October 06, 2006, 05:32:24 PM
I  have the nut straight draw

(PS. Last weekend, I got stacked THREE times in two hours with nut full house vs quads!)


£1.50 please...

 :)


Title: Re: I played this badly, what should I have done:?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 01:50:58 AM
I  have the nut straight draw

Um, no you don't!

Anyway, the question might be not how you have played this hand badly, but how you play other hands badly.

From what I have observed (and admittedly this is more for cash games), the point of Omaha is to always bet/raise the maximum at every possible opportunity.  In order for this to be profitable, you must be able to read other players better than they can read you, and know when to fire again and when to bail.  Once you have established yourself as the table idiot, you are more likely to get paid in this hand by someone with, say, 789T.

Anyway, I agree with Ironside, in that although this is a great flop for you, there are many cards that you really don't want to see on the turn, especially if it gets checked round.  You are dog to the guy with 9dJcQdKc

(PS. Last weekend, I got stacked THREE times in two hours with nut full house vs quads!)

I never considered the possible high wrap for 9 outs,   Ohhh thats a gap to fill   ;goodvevil;