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Title: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 06, 2006, 09:47:48 AM
I know we usually have footie, however would anyone be interested in a spot of paintball before we hit the poker tables?

Its something different for those that cant ( wont) play footie.

Just a thought.



Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Yogi-Bear on October 06, 2006, 10:33:59 AM
I'd be up for a little paintballing.

Dependent upon if I can get into BB4 or not.

Yogi


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thediceman on October 06, 2006, 11:50:29 AM
Sounds good to me.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: turny on October 06, 2006, 01:50:50 PM
yeah im sure my boys defo be uopp for this but please dont clash it with the footie billy!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 06, 2006, 02:23:11 PM
ohh, I was praying your lot would say yes!!!!


Scotland gets its vengance, on the paintball field. :D


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 06, 2006, 03:48:04 PM
I'd defo be up for a spot of paintball... or even better airsoft (but I wouldn't trust you mugs not to cheat at airsoft lol)

But since its usually an all day thing, how do you expect to get it in before BB4 main event?

(http://static.flickr.com/116/252462419_72a69c8d62_m.jpg)
mikkyT in action, ready to kick belly butt


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 06, 2006, 03:51:18 PM
A Scouse convict who lives in Glasgow, carrying a gun ..... am I the only one who is scared ??


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: matt674 on October 06, 2006, 03:55:12 PM
Hold BB4 in Manchester and you wont need to bother hiring paintball guns - we can go down Moss Side and play for real.........  ;goodvevil;


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 06, 2006, 03:56:13 PM
You bloody should be!

I think the joke has had its day now Kev...


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Eck on October 06, 2006, 04:09:08 PM
I'd defo be up for a spot of paintball... or even better airsoft (but I wouldn't trust you mugs not to cheat at airsoft lol)

But since its usually an all day thing, how do you expect to get it in before BB4 main event?

Not a problem!!

Schedule:

Begin at 11am.

11.05 unload Full magazine on Billy as payback for that Feckin quiz!!!
11.10 Back to bar for further stories of the bold Kev's exploits in Singapore (sucker for those "you'll never guess what she was packing" stories  :D)
12.00 Join team misfits again as my compatriots can't make the footie due to the Inverurie V Clachnacuddin Shinty match being televised.   ;goodvevil;




Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: matt674 on October 06, 2006, 04:19:21 PM
12.00 Join team misfits again as my compatriots can't make the footie due to the Inverurie V Clachnacuddin Shinty match being televised.  

BB4 clashes with the Inverurie V Clachnacuddin shinty match? Better tell Tikay as most of us south of the border will be staying at home to watch this annual classic!!

Either that or we get them to rearrange their game and invite the regular attendees of the shinty match to BB4 - i'm sure we can squeeze 3 extra chairs in somewhere!!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Eck on October 06, 2006, 04:45:29 PM
12.00 Join team misfits again as my compatriots can't make the footie due to the Inverurie V Clachnacuddin Shinty match being televised.  

BB4 clashes with the Inverurie V Clachnacuddin shinty match? Better tell Tikay as most of us south of the border will be staying at home to watch this annual classic!!

Either that or we get them to rearrange their game and invite the regular attendees of the shinty match to BB4 - i'm sure we can squeeze 3 extra chairs in somewhere!!

You would also need 2 kennels and a sheep pen so might not be feasible. Nice offer tho    :)up


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: matt674 on October 06, 2006, 04:48:36 PM
You would also need 2 kennels and a sheep pen so might not be feasible. Nice offer tho    :)up

The kennels are no problem - we can just let them kip down with Tikay's guide-dog........

sheep pen - may have to give me a little more time with this one!!  :D


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Wardonkey on October 06, 2006, 07:34:36 PM
Dewi can rent the sheep for £20 a night, we might even make a profit!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Ironside on October 06, 2006, 07:39:32 PM
12.00 Join team misfits again as my compatriots can't make the footie due to the Inverurie V Clachnacuddin Shinty match being televised.  

BB4 clashes with the Inverurie V Clachnacuddin shinty match? Better tell Tikay as most of us south of the border will be staying at home to watch this annual classic!!

Either that or we get them to rearrange their game and invite the regular attendees of the shinty match to BB4 - i'm sure we can squeeze 3 extra chairs in somewhere!!


neither team play shinty but both are in the HFL and should be a good match this year


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thetank on October 06, 2006, 07:43:48 PM

I think the joke has had its day now Kev...


I beg to differ.

I think you'll find you're forum cliche #17 now.

As long as Flushy is a fairy, AdamM is getting his shortstack moved, Tikay is old as the hills, inthebotty is rubbish and Kev likes the odd a pie now and then, MikkyT will always be a danger to society with an arse like a clown's pocket.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thetank on October 06, 2006, 07:53:23 PM
What with the drinking and the poker and the football and the quiz and the sitting on our arses drinking some more, I doubt there will be time.

Just bring along paintball guns to the football, and bopp the itb goalie at appropriate times.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Claw75 on October 06, 2006, 09:14:06 PM
how about a spot of elephant polo?


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thetank on October 06, 2006, 09:18:28 PM
Can we bring our own elephants?

Otherwise it's just a crapshoot. Half the game is in the rearing.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Div on October 06, 2006, 09:21:58 PM
We could do a The Running Man style game, with MikkyT in the Arnie role.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thetank on October 06, 2006, 09:23:57 PM
Can someone make sure the Hotel Guess Who is working?


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Ironside on October 06, 2006, 09:25:39 PM
can we have a spot of wheelchair basketball at least i might have a chance of not getting sent off


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 02:42:49 AM
Wow loads of interest, I was thinking perhaps a morning of paintball, just 2 hours of non stop gun firing, paint spatting hunt itb fun, I love it and it makes for a great day out, once there is a cast iron date set for BB4 I can arrange for a cheap morning of paint ball action, we could even have a bounty on mikkyT as he like the rather effeminate "airSOFT"

Right i'm off to oil my guns   ;snoopy'sguns;


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 03:31:05 AM
Airsoft weapon fires 450 rounds in under 30 seconds.

The usual pump action paint weapon will probably fire around 15, unless you have a wrist like Billys and then it might push 50.

Give me the airsoft weapon anyway - they hurt as much as paintballs but theres more of the fkers!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 03:42:09 AM
Airsoft weapon fires 450 rounds in under 30 seconds.

The usual pump action paint weapon will probably fire around 15, unless you have a wrist like Billys and then it might push 50.

Give me the airsoft weapon anyway - they hurt as much as paintballs but theres more of the fkers!

Ahh Mikky, Mikky, Mikky mikky sigh

i have 3 guns one which fires up to 17 paintballs per second, another that will fire up to 14 per second, and another which will fire about 9 or 10 per second, and ges what none of them are pump action, pump action guns went out of fashion with your haircut, paint ball is a proper sport, even airsoft enthusiasts will tell you that, the only advantage that airsoft has over paintball is you can cheat in airsoft.

Ohh btw trust me, paintball guns hurt much more than airsoft.

thats why a paintball marker would blind you if a ball hit you in the face without a protective mask, the only danger with airsoft bbs is they can burst your eye.

Ohh, and please dont start throwing out bait, i really cant be arsed to explain it anymore, If you really want to learn more go to the scottish warriors forum, those guys will set you straight.


I could go all glasgow bandit and start saying stuff like FACT!!, but naw i'll leave that to him   8)


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Poppet7 on October 07, 2006, 03:45:42 AM
now now boys ::)


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 04:07:33 AM
Airsoft weapon fires 450 rounds in under 30 seconds.

The usual pump action paint weapon will probably fire around 15, unless you have a wrist like Billys and then it might push 50.

Give me the airsoft weapon anyway - they hurt as much as paintballs but theres more of the fkers!

Ahh Mikky, Mikky, Mikky mikky sigh

i have 3 guns one which fires up to 17 paintballs per second, another that will fire up to 14 per second, and another which will fire about 9 or 10 per second, and ges what none of them are pump action, pump action guns went out of fashion with your haircut, paint ball is a proper sport, even airsoft enthusiasts will tell you that, the only advantage that airsoft has over paintball is you can cheat in airsoft.

Plus the fact that in paintball you have a big lame hopper stuck on your unrealistic looking gun. Not to mention all the "paint ball pros" looking all "rad" in their day glo uniforms.

Airsoft guns look the real deal and hurt a damn site more than any paintball marker has ever hurt me. 15 shots per second, MY BIG FAT HAIRY HOLE. FACT

Quote
Ohh btw trust me, paintball guns hurt much more than airsoft.

thats why a paintball marker would blind you if a ball hit you in the face without a protective mask, the only danger with airsoft bbs is they can burst your eye.

Im talking about guns you hire from a site, which are all pump action.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 04:22:31 AM

Plus the fact that in paintball you have a big lame hopper stuck on your unrealistic looking gun. Not to mention all the "paint ball pros" looking all "rad" in their day glow uniforms.

Airsoft guns look the real deal and hurt a damn site more than any paintball marker has ever hurt me. 15 shots per second, MY BIG FAT HAIRY HOLE. FACT

Quote
Ohh btw trust me, paintball guns hurt much more than airsoft.

thats why a paintball marker would blind you if a ball hit you in the face without a protective mask, the only danger with airsoft bbs is they can burst your eye.

I'm talking about guns you hire from a site, which are all pump action.


Again your limited knowledge gives you away, please try to have some of the up to date facts before you go spouting off.

not all Paintball guns have large hoppers on to, some have airfeed hoppers, some have force feed hoppers some have magazines.

yes and that DAY GLO uniforms thing, well you must have seen someone playing tournament paintball, not scenario paintball, there are a few different types available, again you career in to an argument with barely any FACTS!! and make some amusingly wild claims, Now if you  wish to test the theory of which hurts more, paintball or airsoft, I am more than willing to conduct an experiment, all you need to is stand still whilst i fire paintballs at you and then we will use airsoft.  ( i really doubt we would get to the airsoft)

Now as for looking like a REAL gun, PLEASE........  Do some investigating and find out what you are talking about before you go shovelling your shite all over the forum.

Last but by no means least, If you paid for a day out at a paintball site that was using PUMP ACTION guns, they saw you coming mate!!

I know of 6 sites within 2 hours drive of me all all of them use either tippmann 98's, ION's, excellerators all of which are decent guns.

Hey this is fun, Anytime you need correcting again Mikky post more of this type of nonsense.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Poppet7 on October 07, 2006, 04:29:07 AM
Mine hurts more

No mine hurts more

I know more about this

No I do

::)

and Billys on the defensive tonight...

Calm down


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Poppet7 on October 07, 2006, 04:31:35 AM
and they called me Poppet Pollard...pmsl


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 04:34:54 AM
Ohh dear Mikky, no need to go all huffy, Everyone knows you detest an argument   ;whistle; ;whistle;

Now if you feel its hard to take it on the chin when you have been caught spouting a load of nonsense then you should really think before you post!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Poppet7 on October 07, 2006, 04:37:08 AM
no need to go all huffy

Quite  :-X


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 04:37:22 AM
Billy I play paintball as well as airsoft so I do know what Im talking about. If paintballs hurt more than airsoft guns then they are against the law. If you fired a weapon more powerful than an airsoft toy (they are classed as toys) such as a gas powered BB gun, its classed as an "assault with a firearm" and carries a mandatory prizon sentence.

So you take a look at your facts before spouting what is complete bollocks.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 04:39:34 AM
Airsoft weapons are at the very tip of the power of what can be legally fired at another person without being classed as an assault. Paintball ones (legal ones) are also in the same category. Now, whilst a paint pellet is bigger and heavier than a plastic BB, thus carrying more weight behind it and therefore a bigger surface area for the hit.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Jon MW on October 07, 2006, 04:41:03 AM
I think LaserMaze was the best - that didn't hurt at all. In my eyes, this was a good thing.  :D


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 04:42:17 AM
Billy, let me guess your guns are imported from the states?


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: totalise on October 07, 2006, 04:45:26 AM
what about spud-guns?




Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Jon MW on October 07, 2006, 04:51:55 AM
That's true - they really hurt


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thetank on October 07, 2006, 06:34:18 AM
To hell with the toys, sounds like a big no knives ruck is the only way to go.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Tinsel Town on October 07, 2006, 06:42:29 AM
To hell with the toys, sounds like a big no knives ruck is the only way to go.


 ;iagree;
Sounds a lot more exciting than running through the woods playing soadgers.

However I quite like the spud gun idea  :D :D


 Td Th


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thetank on October 07, 2006, 06:48:21 AM
It's not a bedsit.....


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 07:26:57 AM
Billy I play paintball as well as airsoft so I do know what Im talking about. If paintballs hurt more than airsoft guns then they are against the law. If you fired a weapon more powerful than an airsoft toy (they are classed as toys) such as a gas powered BB gun, its classed as an "assault with a firearm" and carries a mandatory prizon sentence.

So you take a look at your facts before spouting what is complete bollocks.

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To be fair to everyone, Please read the first line of the warning for both guns.

http://www.tippmann.com/pdfs/products/A5/a5manual.pdf

http://www.tippmann.com/pdfs/products/AirsoftRifles/XT800_manual.pdf

Airsoft weapons are at the very tip of the power of what can be legally fired at another person without being classed as an assault. Paintball ones (legal ones) are also in the same category. Now, whilst a paint pellet is bigger and heavier than a plastic BB, thus carrying more weight behind it and therefore a bigger surface area for the hit.


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This stuff is so funny, Please continue mikky, only so i can paste this on to another forum so we can all laugh at  debate your expert knowledge on the subject.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 07:55:36 AM
Billy I play paintball as well as airsoft so I do know what Im talking about. If paintballs hurt more than airsoft guns then they are against the law. If you fired a weapon more powerful than an airsoft toy (they are classed as toys) such as a gas powered BB gun, its classed as an "assault with a firearm" and carries a mandatory prizon sentence.

So you take a look at your facts before spouting what is complete bollocks.

just a few FACTS  im doing a bandit!!

if a paintballer marker fires over 330fps with a standard weight paintball then it is considered to be above 12ftlb and for a rifle this is classified as a Section 1 Firearm and requires a licence called a firearms certificate, and a pistol above 6ftlb is again a Section 1 Firearm requiring a firearms certificate in the UK.


Under 330fps if we are all responsible then we pose no threat to the public.



Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: matt674 on October 07, 2006, 09:33:52 AM
Under 330fps if we are all responsible then we pose no threat to the public.

Well thats 97.3% of the forum excluded........... ;whistle;


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 10:18:41 AM
Billy I play paintball as well as airsoft so I do know what Im talking about. If paintballs hurt more than airsoft guns then they are against the law. If you fired a weapon more powerful than an airsoft toy (they are classed as toys) such as a gas powered BB gun, its classed as an "assault with a firearm" and carries a mandatory prizon sentence.

So you take a look at your facts before spouting what is complete bollocks.

 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

To be fair to everyone, Please read the first line of the warning for both guns.

http://www.tippmann.com/pdfs/products/A5/a5manual.pdf

http://www.tippmann.com/pdfs/products/AirsoftRifles/XT800_manual.pdf

Airsoft weapons are at the very tip of the power of what can be legally fired at another person without being classed as an assault. Paintball ones (legal ones) are also in the same category. Now, whilst a paint pellet is bigger and heavier than a plastic BB, thus carrying more weight behind it and therefore a bigger surface area for the hit.


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This stuff is so funny, Please continue mikky, only so i can paste this on to another forum so we can all laugh at  debate your expert knowledge on the subject.

Billy after this post it is clear you know nothing about the law as it stands in the United Kingdom. When does the law in this country ever make sense. Unless you have something constructive to say, how about kindly shutting the f up?


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 10:22:11 AM
Billy I play paintball as well as airsoft so I do know what Im talking about. If paintballs hurt more than airsoft guns then they are against the law. If you fired a weapon more powerful than an airsoft toy (they are classed as toys) such as a gas powered BB gun, its classed as an "assault with a firearm" and carries a mandatory prizon sentence.

So you take a look at your facts before spouting what is complete bollocks.

just a few FACTS  im doing a bandit!!

if a paintballer marker fires over 330fps with a standard weight paintball then it is considered to be above 12ftlb and for a rifle this is classified as a Section 1 Firearm and requires a licence called a firearms certificate, and a pistol above 6ftlb is again a Section 1 Firearm requiring a firearms certificate in the UK.


Under 330fps if we are all responsible then we pose no threat to the public.



This is not true. Under 330fps, whilst not being classed as a lethal weapon (and not being classed as a firearm) you ARE classed as an air weapon, and cannot be sold to a minor under the age of 17 years of age.

If you fire an air weapon at someone intentionally, you commit an offence of "assault with a firearm". In the law as it stands in this country, although not in the class of licenced firearm, air weapons are classed as a firearm for the purpose of this law.

However there is a limit at which they cease to be classed as air weapons and become classed as "toys". Laugh all you want, its ludicris, but its true.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Sark79 on October 07, 2006, 10:47:43 AM
Hold BB4 in Manchester and you wont need to bother hiring paintball guns - we can go down Moss Side and play for real.........  ;goodvevil;



lol



Has anyone ever played Laser Quest?  or is that the wimps version for nancy boys  :D


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 10:50:46 AM
Billy I play paintball as well as airsoft so I do know what I'm talking about. If paintballs hurt more than airsoft guns then they are against the law. If you fired a weapon more powerful than an airsoft toy (they are classed as toys) such as a gas powered BB gun, its classed as an "assault with a firearm" and carries a mandatory prizon sentence.

So you take a look at your facts before spouting what is complete bollocks.

 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

To be fair to everyone, Please read the first line of the warning for both guns.

http://www.tippmann.com/pdfs/products/A5/a5manual.pdf

http://www.tippmann.com/pdfs/products/AirsoftRifles/XT800_manual.pdf

Airsoft weapons are at the very tip of the power of what can be legally fired at another person without being classed as an assault. Paintball ones (legal ones) are also in the same category. Now, whilst a paint pellet is bigger and heavier than a plastic BB, thus carrying more weight behind it and therefore a bigger surface area for the hit.


 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao


This stuff is so funny, Please continue mikky, only so i can paste this on to another forum so we can all laugh at  debate your expert knowledge on the subject.

Billy after this post it is clear you know nothing about the law as it stands in the United Kingdom. When does the law in this country ever make sense. Unless you have something constructive to say, how about kindly shutting the f up?

Looks like the words of a man found to be BS-ing to me.  Anyway just to clarify mikky I am an avid paintballer and I have played more than my fair share of airsoft games ( usually when waiting for the rest of the paintball team to arrive ), I am a member of the UKPSF and I do know where I stand withing the law as my rights to use and participate in paintball sports.

Now it is yourself that is talking utter garbage, if you had an opinion that is differing but you started spouting facts, That were wrong by the way. As for me shutting the F up, well thats a request, i will politely decline your request and continue to correct your mistakes. Now if you are in need of a bigger spade you are all outta luck, but your "facts" are digging you a deep enough hole.

referring to saying something constructive, Every post has been constructive mikky, you are the person posting nonsense, I am merely correcting you, i must admit i am enjoying the laugh at these fictional "facts" of yours.



Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Claw75 on October 07, 2006, 10:53:45 AM
all sounds a bit dangerous to me.  I think I will go to the bar instead.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 10:58:57 AM
Billy I play paintball as well as airsoft so I do know what Im talking about. If paintballs hurt more than airsoft guns then they are against the law. If you fired a weapon more powerful than an airsoft toy (they are classed as toys) such as a gas powered BB gun, its classed as an "assault with a firearm" and carries a mandatory prizon sentence.

So you take a look at your facts before spouting what is complete bollocks.

just a few FACTS  im doing a bandit!!

if a paintballer marker fires over 330fps with a standard weight paintball then it is considered to be above 12ftlb and for a rifle this is classified as a Section 1 Firearm and requires a licence called a firearms certificate, and a pistol above 6ftlb is again a Section 1 Firearm requiring a firearms certificate in the UK.


Under 330fps if we are all responsible then we pose no threat to the public.



This is not true. Under 330fps, whilst not being classed as a lethal weapon (and not being classed as a firearm) you ARE classed as an air weapon, and cannot be sold to a minor under the age of 17 years of age.

If you fire an air weapon at someone intentionally, you commit an offence of "assault with a firearm". In the law as it stands in this country, although not in the class of licenced firearm, air weapons are classed as a firearm for the purpose of this law.

However there is a limit at which they cease to be classed as air weapons and become classed as "toys". Laugh all you want, its ludicris, but its true.


Well call the cops Mikky, Just about everyone at a paintball site fires off their marker intentionally so i better get ready for the police to send me to the "big hoose", I Suppose I will have company will all my paintball buddies in there with me and your frequent 3 - 6 month visits i should survive whatever the magistrate throws at me. :D

By the way, who even brought up the selling of paintball markers to under 17year olds?


One last point, If i am ever in doubt of my facts I usually defer to the experts ( you should try it).  If you really want to knwo about the law and paintball have a look at the UKPSF site and you will find just how far off the mark you are >:?

http://www.ukpsf.com/paintballlaw.asp

Just incase you need help finding it!

I think I have corrected as much nonsense as you can throw at me, i think i'm done.



Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Rod Paradise on October 07, 2006, 11:01:50 AM
Let's keep it civil girls please  ;tk;


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 11:12:13 AM
I'm always civil guvnor, thanks for the concern though.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Sark79 on October 07, 2006, 11:15:18 AM
I own a nice blue gun .  Here is a picture of it   http://www.amazon.com/Namco-GunCon-2-Light-Gun/dp/B0009XZZ9O

I generally use it to shoot zombies and ninjas.  Sometimes I use it to kill ghosts as well .  I also have regular gun fights with opposing armies of violent soldier's,  I am not really sure why they fire at me and I would rather just chat, someone has to do the job I do though. It is a difficult life I have, most people would cry if they saw what happened to the zombies I have met in battle


I really am a tough guy  :D


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 11:50:15 AM
I'm always civil guvnor, thanks for the concern though.

Not one of your posts has been "civil".


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 11:52:01 AM
I'm always civil guvnor, thanks for the concern though.

Not one of your posts has been "civil".

Just so i am clear is this a "fact" or an "opinion"?


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 07, 2006, 11:52:44 AM
In the words of the great Kenny Rogers .." You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em"     You need to fold Mikky.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: bolt pp on October 07, 2006, 11:54:48 AM
I used to have a gat gun, had so much fun with that!!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 11:56:47 AM
Billy, the definition of toy, as in UK law:

Current wisdom from the FSS/H.O. seems to indicate that they have reviewed the point at which a toy becomes a 'lethal barelled weapon' in the eyes of the Firearms Acts 1968-98. Until recently, this was viewed to be 1.35 Joules (in Airsoft terms, a muzzle velocity of 377 feet per second using a 0.2 gram 6mm Airsoft BB pellet). As you note from the heading above, this has apparently changed. In the light of this new interim information, Practical Airsoft is recommending that no Airsoft model be upgraded to be capable of firing above the generally regognised playing site limit of 1 joule (328 feet per second using a 0.2 gram 6mm Airsoft BB pellet); this new recommendation also includes all single-shot rifles and pistols, not just gas blow back and Automatic Electric Gun series Airsoft models.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 11:57:42 AM
So, I am stating this as fact. Paintball guns are classed as TOYS.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 07, 2006, 11:59:40 AM
Would you be allowed to carry said "toy" into a Prison at visiting time ??


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:00:02 PM
Airsoft models are regarded as toys; they are not, in law however, toys, as they do not meet certain legal requirements under law. As such they are unrestricted, and may be possessed by almost anyone, except that they must not operate above a mazimum power level, which is the level at which they might be "capable of inflicting a more than trivial injury". This can be taken, under current Home Office guidelines to the Police and Courts, to be no lower than 1.35 Joules, or roughly one (1) Foot/Pound.

Not 6 like you state billy...

Provided, therefore, your Airsoft model does not exceed the UK limits, as recommended by the majority of UK Airsoft Site Operators, and you do not brandish or display your Airsoft model in a "Public Place", you should have no problems regarding your Airsoft model. These limits stand at 328fps for any airsoft toy capable of semi-automatic or automatic fire, and 500fps for any single action airsoft toy. A Public Place can be taken to mean any place that is not privately owned; Private land can be taken to mean your own home, or a freinds' home, or a recognised and properly organised and convened Airsoft Gaming site, where the site operators either own, or have permission to use (from the freeholder), the land for that purpose.



Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:02:16 PM
The Firearms Act 1968 provides:

5(1) A person commits an offence if, without the authority of the Defence Council, he has in his possession, or purchases or acquires, or manufactures, sells or transfers -
5(1)(a) any firearm which is so designed or adapted that, if pressure is applied to the trigger, missiles continue to be discharged until pressure is removed from the trigger or the magazine containing the missiles is empty;
5(2) The weapons and ammunition specified in subsection (1) of this section are referred to in this Act as "prohibited weapons" and "prohibited ammunition" respectively.

This is the section of the Firearms Act 1968 that defined what a 'Section 5' weapon is; it further states who may possess a section 5 firearm. This means that unless you are a serving member of the Armed Forces or Armed Forces reserves, ir an 'Authorised Shot' in an armed branch of a Home Office approved Police Service, you should not possess a weapon capable of actions under s5(1)(a) FA 1968. Thus, if your airsoft model is capable of semi-auto or automatic fire, it SHOULD NOT fall into the low-power air weapon category or higher, instead, it should produce a demonstratively lower level of muzzle energy than that of a 'low power air weapon', or you would be guilty of an offence under the above subsections of the Firearms Act 1968, and liable to arrest, trial, and punishment.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Sark79 on October 07, 2006, 12:04:35 PM
I was actually worried when I was taking my gun home .  I thought I may get into trouble with the police for carrying a gun.  I asked the Girl in GAMESTATION to put a double wrap on it just incase.  She looked at me strangely and told me it wasn't real.  I responded by telling her it was real in the eyes of the Zombies I would be shooting later that day.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:04:48 PM
If your paintball weapon is "capable of firing 15 shots a second" in full auto, then you ARE guilty of firearms offences. Unless of course it is not as powerful as you so claim.

Back it up BILLY BOY.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 12:05:34 PM
I will need to ask snoopy for a new Smiley, a denial smiley and we will name it the mikkyT.  I wonder if it comes with a stripy uniform?

Ohh By the way, you are wrong on all accounts mikky. Please feel free to peruse the links i have posted to save you further embarrassment.

 ;nana; ;nana; ;nana; ;nana; ;nana;

 ;kneelsucker;


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: bolt pp on October 07, 2006, 12:06:54 PM
I was actually worried when I was taking my gun home .  I thought I may get into trouble with the police for carrying a gun.  I asked the Girl in GAMESTATION to put a double wrap on it just incase.  She looked at me strangely and told me it wasn't real.  I responded by telling her it was real in the eyes of the Zombies I would be shooting later that day.

did you get her phone number? ::)


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:07:58 PM
paintball weapons are higher rated because they are not full auto.

There is a section on (higher powered) sniper rifles:

NOTE: Most sites in the UK permit single action Airsoft 'sniping' rifles to fire at 500 feet per second. The muzzle energy for this (with a 0.2 gram Airsoft projectile) is 2.32 Joules, and for this reason, they restrict the minimum range at which you can fire a sniping rifle at someone, to roughly 20 to 25 feet.

While, technically, this is firing a low-power air weapon at your opponent, Paintball games (see below) use much higher ratings of power for their weaponry, often at point blank range. Therefore it is, while not exactly within the spirit and letter of UK Law, not prohibited in Airsoft gaming within the UK to use such 'sniping' rifles.

And finally, before I leave you to digest all this so called OPINION:

Now, as to using an Airsoft model in a skirmish game environment. Strictly speaking, the offence of Actual Bodily Harm is committed by someone causing any injury of a trivial or minor nature (Section 47, Offences Against The Person Act, 1861).

However, since the introduction of paintball in the UK, it is generally accepted that a person taking part in a paintball skirmish game should expect that another person may fire, and hit him with ammunition fired from a paintball gun. This meaning has crossed over to the Airsoft Skirmish game, so you should have no problems whatsoever, as the principle is exactly the same.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:08:32 PM
Billy, I'd rather take the word of a solicitor over you. Any time. Except when I need tips on how to play poker.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Sark79 on October 07, 2006, 12:09:12 PM
No, I made an impression though. She said to the guy next to her " What a weirdo he was " as I was walking out of the shop.  I think she was impressed  :D


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:09:33 PM
Billy, I'm getting my information 1) from the links you gave me 2) from google 3) from the airsoft sites I post on.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: bolt pp on October 07, 2006, 12:12:34 PM
No, I made an impression though. She said to the guy next to her " What a weirdo he was " as I was walking out of the shop.  I think she was impressed  :D

"theres only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and thats not being talked about" ;)


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Sark79 on October 07, 2006, 12:24:22 PM
lol


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: ifm on October 07, 2006, 12:25:56 PM
I reckon we should play naked paintball.................


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:31:05 PM
Only if Billy volunteers to be the target.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:37:26 PM
Billy I give up. You win by default :) There is one point I conceed on however, and thats the power of the guns. In theory a paintball marker will be more powerful than an airsoft weapon. But if the paintball marker is following the letter of UK law, it cannot be full auto. If it is full auto then it has to have the same muzzle velocity as its airsoft counterpart.

This is getting into (gettting into? I think it already is haha) a pointless discussion where neither party will budge an inch and we are both citing passages of defacto fact at each other and spattering insulting comments in amongst it...


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 12:38:24 PM
I reckon we should play naked paintball.................

Done that and I do not wish to do it again.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: mikkyT on October 07, 2006, 12:45:01 PM
Billy check ur PM fella


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: thetank on October 07, 2006, 02:32:10 PM
Can't be arsed reading all that.

Who won?


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Poppet7 on October 07, 2006, 03:21:46 PM
Mikky gave up

Therefore it's a draw!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Jon MW on October 07, 2006, 03:37:33 PM
Only one way to settle it - a duel.

But what weapons would they use?  :D


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Poppet7 on October 07, 2006, 03:41:54 PM
lol Jon... don't get them started again!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Sark79 on October 07, 2006, 04:05:32 PM
Do you think you could beat Clint Eastwood in a gun fight mikky?    What about a 1970's John Wayne? 



Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Bainn on October 07, 2006, 04:35:14 PM
Do you think you could beat Clint Eastwood in a gun fight mikky?    What about a 1970's John Wayne? 



The ultimate test would be against John Preston and hid "Gun-Kata" moves from "Equilibrium", beat Clint and Marion hands down, fo-sho.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Sark79 on October 07, 2006, 04:36:50 PM
I have heard Jack Bauer is fairly handy with a gun as well. 


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Bainn on October 07, 2006, 04:38:15 PM
I have heard Jack Bauer is fairly handy with a gun as well. 

Piffle, it's John all the way.


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Newmanseye on October 07, 2006, 04:52:52 PM
http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=330

should anyone be in doubt, this is tourney paintball.

look at the blokes neck at the end!


Title: Re: BB4 daytime event for the saturday?
Post by: Claw75 on October 07, 2006, 05:28:50 PM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=mikkyt&word2=newmanseye