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Title: is this a call?
Post by: jezza777 on October 07, 2006, 01:09:52 AM
------HAND 4------
Game #2583004533: Hold'em NL (100/200) - 2006/10/06 - 19:59:38 (ET)
Table "$3000_GTD 3600526 - 4" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: benidorm (1980 in chips)
Seat 2: G1RAY (1975 in chips)
Seat 3: Lammie002 (3365 in chips)
Seat 4: Bornwina (3385 in chips)
Seat 5: hermos (3530 in chips)
Seat 6: Xklusive (11095 in chips)
Seat 7: _Bullit_ (2995 in chips)
Seat 8: hef10 (2030 in chips)
Seat 9: aleron (8660 in chips)
Lammie002: posts small blind 100
Bornwina: posts big blind 200
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Xklusive [7d 8d]
hermos: folds
Xklusive: raises to 700
_Bullit_: raises to 2995 and is all-in
hef10: folds
aleron: folds
benidorm: folds
G1RAY: folds
Lammie002: folds
Lammie002 sits out
Bornwina: folds
Lammie002 sits back
Xklusive: folds
Xklusive sits out
Returned uncalled bets 2,295 to _Bullit_
Xklusive sits back
_Bullit_: doesn't show hand
_Bullit_ collects 1700 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 1700 Main pot 1700 Rake 0
Seat 1: benidorm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: G1RAY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lammie002 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bornwina (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hermos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Xklusive folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: _Bullit_ collected 1700
Seat 8: hef10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: aleron folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I am now thinking I should call here, no info on oppo as recently moved to the table


Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: Moskvich on October 07, 2006, 05:19:40 AM
I don't claim to be any sort of expert, but I can't see why you'd want to call here, and I also can't see why you'd want to raise with this hand, especially from early position at this table. You've got a very healthy chip stack, while at least half the table is down to around 10 bbs. They're presumably starting to look for a spot to stick em in and double up. Your raise gives them one. Whatever they go in with, you're not favourite to beat it, and you're calling off a big chunk of your stack. I'd have thought you'd be aiming to see flops cheaply with hands like this, not trying to bully stacks that are fast becoming unbulliable.

I also asked Mrs Lime her opinion on this hand, but she said she can't be expected to provide a response when you don't even know how to spell your own screen name.  ;goodvevil;



Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: MrsLime on October 07, 2006, 05:28:25 AM
I also asked Mrs Lime her opinion on this hand, but she said she can't be expected to provide a response when you don't even know how to spell your own screen name.

Eh? Is this some sort of 'joke'?


Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: MrsLime on October 07, 2006, 05:29:20 AM
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Xklusive [7d 8d]
hermos: folds
Xklusive: raises to 700

Eh? Is this some sort of 'joke'?


Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: action man on October 07, 2006, 10:34:12 AM
definate pass for me. You don't want table to see you  playing these cards.


Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: SupaMonkey on October 07, 2006, 04:17:41 PM
You're getting better than 5-3 here so you could call cos it stinks of your oppo overplaying A-K. However, i am would be worried that your oppo might not want to lay down 10-10 here and also be overplaying this sort of hand. With no info i would pass, especially with your stack.


Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: moritzey on October 07, 2006, 10:35:18 PM
definate pass for me. You don't want table to see you  playing these cards.

Agree, provided you have some sort of sensibly tight image at the moment, pass. If you're down as the fish/bully in everyones book anyways, then you might as well call. I mean he could have anything from Ax, small pairs, large pairs, where only the overpairs don't give you the odds to call.


Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: action man on October 08, 2006, 12:51:08 PM
definate pass for me. You don't want table to see you  playing these cards.

Agree, provided you have some sort of sensibly tight image at the moment, pass. If you're down as the fish/bully in everyones book anyways, then you might as well call. I mean he could have anything from Ax, small pairs, large pairs, where only the overpairs don't give you the odds to call.



the prob with this is moritzey is, even if he is being the table bully, if he calls and shows the table that he is raising and calling all in with 78s then he will be forced to play premium hands from now on, because the table will be pushing against him with all manner of cards. If he folds he can carry on raisng with whatever he likes and no-one will be any wiser


Title: Re: is this a call?
Post by: SupaMonkey on October 08, 2006, 01:59:48 PM
But if he raises and then folds to an allin in EP people will think he was raising with trash and will fold to an allin. So they will push against him with a wide range.