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Title: At what point do you bail out?
Post by: TightEnd on October 10, 2006, 06:26:14 PM

$100 - NL - 9 Seats - Extended 12241172-10 Holdem No Limit 20/40

Seat 1 : shinaii has $3,520
Seat 2 : schlack has $1,740
Seat 3 : rachelkk has $1,660
Seat 4 : filous13 has $1,440
Seat 5 : Natrykris has $2,040
Seat 7 : GoBengals has $280
Seat 8 : lcems9 has $2,200
Seat 9 : slotman has $5,120
filous13 is the dealer.

: Natrykris posted small blind.
: GoBengals posted big blind.

 Seat 5 : Natrykris has 3h 3c

lcems9 folded.
slotman called 40
shinaii called 40
schlack called 40
rachelkk called 40
filous13 folded.
Natrykris called 20
GoBengals checked.

Dealing flop.

Board cards [5d 3s 9s]
Natrykris bet 320
GoBengals folded.
slotman called 320
shinaii folded.
schlack folded.
rachelkk called 320

Dealing turn.

Board cards [5d 3s 9s Ts]

Natrykris checked.
slotman bet 300
rachelkk called 300
Natrykris called 300

 Dealing river.

 Board cards [5d 3s 9s Ts 4c]

Natrykris checked.
slotman bet 700
rachelkk called 700
Natrykris folds

Seat 9 : slotman has 4s Ks
slotman has Flush KT943
slotman wins 3,500 with Flush KT943


Do you give up on the turn?

Do you look to check raise on the flop? Slotman is LAG and plays any two from anywhere, Has his chips from hitting a QQx flop with Q6 to bust AA.



Title: Re: At what point do you bail out?
Post by: MrDigital on October 10, 2006, 09:54:44 PM
I think you did well to get action betting 320 into a 180 pot, however, two flat callers has to suggest at least one of them is drawing to a strong hand and you are mindful of that.

The turn is a bad card for you (which you realise) and you check/call the 300 bet.  Here the pot is 2040 your getting nearly 7/1 on your chips with approx 4/1 shot. 

You got away at the right time and also had a chance of taking down a decent pot if you hit.  UL

Just one way of playing a hand that could have been played differently with possibly the same results...

Try and find more games where they call like this!


Title: Re: At what point do you bail out?
Post by: thetank on October 10, 2006, 10:03:45 PM
Couldn't agree more, a well played hand.


Title: Re: At what point do you bail out?
Post by: NEVES on October 10, 2006, 10:24:41 PM

 I will echo that you played it very smart.

              Neves.


Title: Re: At what point do you bail out?
Post by: tantrum on October 10, 2006, 10:54:57 PM
You say that you have 2 callers and one of them plays any two.  You are putting big bet on the flop and got called by two callers.  One is for sure on the flush draw and knows that if they hit their flush, you will be very reluctant to laid down your hand.

Now on the turn, yes you have odds to call, but your are most likely to be behind and most likely the bettor will fire additional bet on the river so you will have to laid down your hand unless you will hit full house.

Perhaps check raise could  be a good alternative.  You are on the small blind, so your big bet might look like a steal, and the big stack can call your bet anyway, but s/he might fold to the check raise.

I am not a big fan of overbetting as in a long run this might cost you money and makes you more difficult to get away from the hand.  Pot bet would be sufficient.


Title: Re: At what point do you bail out?
Post by: SupaMonkey on October 11, 2006, 12:11:59 PM
I don't like a check raise here because there has been no preflop action and no reason to suggest that anyone would bet the flop. I would hate it to be checked around here.


Title: Re: At what point do you bail out?
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on October 11, 2006, 12:18:23 PM
As the pot is so small, a check raise wouldn't be the move, i probably check/call on the flop and then force out the FD's on the turn if a spade doesn't come.