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Title: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: MrDigital on October 10, 2006, 06:49:41 PM Hypothetical Question 1
First: Think of a level of stakes that you are comfortable playin NL cash at... Second: You get dealt KK on a 10 seated NL Cash table and make a standard 3 x BB raise in EP. Followed by a late pos re-raise of 3 x your initial raise. You proceed to call --- a Jack High rainbow flop and your opponent puts you all in for your original buy in? Fold or Call ? ? ? Hypothetical Question 2 First: Think of a level of stakes that you are UNCOMFORTABLE playin NL cash at... Second: You get dealt KK on a 10 seated NL Cash table and make a standard 3 x BB raise in EP. Followed by a late pos re-raise of 3 x your initial raise. You proceed to call --- a Jack High rainbow flop and your opponent puts you all in for your original buy in? Fold or Call ? ? ? Hypothetical Question 3 If everytime you got dealt KK & regardless of your opponent you tried to get all your stack in the middle pre-flop and succeeded. Would this be a + EV play ? Thanks for your comments in advance Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: fishguts on October 10, 2006, 07:14:15 PM Question 1 : call
Question 2 : Call Question 3 : i dont know :D Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: Mbuna on October 10, 2006, 07:26:39 PM Q1 Re-Raise Preflop
Q2 Dont sit at table Q3 Depends (what cards my opponent has) Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: pswnio on October 10, 2006, 11:25:26 PM 1. Re-raise pre flop.
2. What are you doing there? 3. Yes, I think so, but I've got the flu and can't work it out properly :) Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: Graham C on October 10, 2006, 11:39:49 PM 3. Not at my levels (25c/50c). Kings are a bad hand, people can't put down Ace Suited and that's it.
Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: jezza777 on October 11, 2006, 12:00:51 AM 1 call
2 call 3 yes folding KK is long term -ev Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: MrsLime on October 11, 2006, 03:58:14 AM You HAVE to know the stack sizes. It makes a difference whether you start with 30BB or 300BB. Has no one here read The Bible? (I mean Reuben/Ciaffone.)
Quote If everytime you got dealt KK & regardless of your opponent you tried to get all your stack in the middle pre-flop and succeeded. Would this be a + EV play ? You have asked the wrong question. Currently, you are asking "Would it be +EV if, every time you got dealt KK, your opponent magically went all-in?". Of course it would. (I'm assuming that when you say 'succeeded' you mean 'succeeded to get a call'.) I think the question you meant to ask was: "If my opponent moves all-in preflop and I have KK, would it be +EV to always call regardless of who he was?". Of course it wouldn't. Proof: imagine you are playing against a player who only play Aces. QED. By the way, excellent use of italics and bold. Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: ifm on October 11, 2006, 04:18:57 AM 1 call 2 call 3 yes folding KK is long term -ev Spot on, really there is only one question here. Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: MrsLime on October 11, 2006, 04:29:24 AM 1 call 2 call 3 yes folding KK is long term -ev Spot on, really there is only one question here. I have folded KK preflop twice, and both times my opponent had AA. Go me! Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: ifm on October 11, 2006, 04:32:56 AM 1 call 2 call 3 yes folding KK is long term -ev Spot on, really there is only one question here. I have folded KK preflop twice, and both times my opponent had AA. Go me! We have had the old "can you ever folded KK preflop" debate a load of times and i think just about everyone has, BUT overall it can only be profitable, ok it will lose x% of times to any random hand but long term it will return a profit. Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: thetank on October 11, 2006, 04:34:12 AM 3. Not at my levels (25c/50c). Kings are a bad hand, people can't put down Ace Suited and that's it. ..and you owe 50p Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: MrDigital on October 11, 2006, 09:10:58 AM 100 x BB just to be more specific - And thanks for the input especially of my useage regarding bold & Italics
Title: Re: ---Hypothetical Questions In Question--- Post by: Graham C on October 11, 2006, 10:23:13 AM 3. Not at my levels (25c/50c). Kings are a bad hand, people can't put down Ace Suited and that's it. ..and you owe 50p damn I thought I'd got away with it :D Not a 50p post, hasn't happened recently enough to moan about :D |