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Title: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: JP on October 12, 2006, 04:42:49 AM Game #1765098387 - Tournament Playa R&A - $40k Guaranteed (NLH) - 2,000/4,000
No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2006/10/11-19:49:29.5 (CST) Table "Playa $40k 10" (MTT) -- Seat 1 is the button Seat 1: MavFisk (64,138 in chips) Seat 2: cranky (109,402 in chips) Seat 3: Dizzy DD (62,904 in chips) Seat 4: grape_ape_ (146,849 in chips) Seat 5: force17 (33,438 in chips) Seat 6: Froggy99 (93,507 in chips) Seat 8: IMAROBOT780 (139,944 in chips) Seat 9: acehole__45 (39,469 in chips) Seat 10: MrWinstons (30,349 in chips) cranky : Ante (200) Dizzy DD: Ante (200) grape_ape_: Ante (200) force17 : Ante (200) Froggy99: Ante (200) IMAROBOT780: Ante (200) acehole__45: Ante (200) MrWinstons: Ante (200) MavFisk : Ante (200) cranky : Post Small Blind (2,000) Dizzy DD: Post Big Blind (4,000) Dealing... Dealt to MavFisk [ Qc ] Dealt to MavFisk [ Ac ] grape_ape_: Fold force17 : Fold Froggy99: Fold IMAROBOT780: Call (4,000) acehole__45: Fold MrWinstons: Fold MavFisk : Call (4,000) cranky : Fold Dizzy DD: Check *** FLOP *** : [ Qd 4s 5d ] Dizzy DD: Bet (4,000) IMAROBOT780: Raise (8,000) MavFisk : Raise (19,000) Dizzy DD: Fold IMAROBOT780: Call (11,000) *** TURN *** : [ Qd 4s 5d ] [ Jc ] IMAROBOT780: Bet (11,000) MavFisk : Call (11,000) *** RIVER *** : [ Qd 4s 5d Jc ] [ Qh ] IMAROBOT780: Check MavFisk : Bet (22,000) IMAROBOT780: Call (22,000) *** SUMMARY *** Pot: 123,800 | Board: [ Qd 4s 5d Jc Qh ] MavFisk bet 56,200, collected 123,800, net +67,600 (showed hand) [ Qc Ac ] (three of a kind, queens) cranky lost 2,200 (folded) Dizzy DD lost 8,200 (folded) grape_ape_ lost 200 (folded) force17 lost 200 (folded) Froggy99 lost 200 (folded) I played this hand crazily for me. (thought this hand was quite cool and interesting) Will fill you in on my thought process after. What you think he has then? Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: thetank on October 12, 2006, 04:58:47 AM Ad Jd was my first thought, but the pre-flop limp first in doesn't really fit it.
Couldn't be a set (coz you won the pot) Hmm, I'll stick with Ad Jd. Not sure what else he would call the big flop raise, lead out with a relatively small bet on the turn, and check-call the river. Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: thetank on October 12, 2006, 05:00:57 AM Ad 4d maybe too.
More likely to fit it pre-flop. Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 12, 2006, 05:07:04 AM At first I thought it was Jd Td but that makes the bet on the turn seem odd to lead into a raiser after the flop action, unless he's trying to put a suspiciously small bet and hope you don't raise so he can see the river cheaply. Then I thought he has kings, he's worried about your re-raise on the flop in case you have a set or two pair. But the bet on the turn is just weird, he's giving you over 6:1 to call. It's a bet crying for a raise, so the only other hand I can put him on is 54sooted and he weak leads the turn looking for a raise so he can jam the pot. :dontask:
Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: tantrum on October 12, 2006, 10:09:39 AM To be honest, having only a hand history this thread is a guessing game. Without much info on the players and table dynamics as well as your table image the whole possibilites are wide open for interpretation.
Everybody limps into the pot - He has a position so he can have 45/KQ/Axs or A high, Jx, Kx any connector, big pair. On the flop unless he is crazy he has a piece of the flop or a flush draw. If he has a big pair then his play on the turn with a such a small bet might show the weakness or cry for call either way you can now call and see the river. I just don't understand why your opponent is going all the way to the river pissing his/her chips away. By turn s/he invested half of his/her stack so unless crazy, s/he is ether on flush draw but then the call on the river is plain sily, or had a genuine hand and u got lucky, unless s/he had TT/99/and other pp except 44/55 of course and could not fold the hand. Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: ifm on October 12, 2006, 11:46:05 AM For some reason i think he has pocket 8's.
Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: Claw75 on October 12, 2006, 12:33:59 PM Kd Td possibly?
Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: ACE2M on October 12, 2006, 12:44:41 PM AA or KK
i think hes trapping and was annoyed when you don't raise the turn and knows hes beat on the end but has to call. Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: thetank on October 12, 2006, 12:45:28 PM I'm coming round to the AA idea.
Good shout Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: lazaroonie on October 12, 2006, 12:59:34 PM I reckon one of them has to be the Ad - and he must have some part of the flop/turn to keep calling you down.
It looks like he has put you on a flush draw too, which explains his crying call of 22K on the river. Think its looking like Ad Jd Nice river bet. Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: JP on October 12, 2006, 01:19:37 PM ok I also thought he had Jd Td.
He actually had Ad Kd. This was in the first round of the final and i didn't know anything about this guy and I'd played with half the table and liked my chances so thought no reason to play a big pot so i limped also. On the flop of 4-5-Q there was what i thought a probe bet and then a minimum raise from the chip leader so i wanted to find out as cheaply as possible if my hand was any good so I thought the best play was to raise to 19k out of a 60k stack to get the bb out and get it head up v the chip leader and see if he liked the situation. So he just called. Turn = J I was thinking he had a weaker Q when he called the 11k so the J is a bad card as it fits in with QJ. He then bets 12k so I figure he's either got QJ or a flush draw so i decided to just call and see what happened on the river. The pot is so big and I only have another 27k so a raise will not take down this hand. I can also come back from 27k as I would still have 8 BBs. River = Q Ok if he has QJ now gl to him so i'm waiting for him to set me in when he checks it. So how much to bet I thought immediately all in but decided to bet 22k and leave 5k back to make it look like i could be leaving myself a get out of jail card or maybe get him to make a crazy ass bluff at it (you never know ;) ) He thought and paid me off. I busted him soon after when i raised with AQ and he moved in and i knew he was tilting so called. I finished 3rd and got sick luck 3 handed but ah well. Anything you guys would've done differently? eg raise preflop or move in on turn/river Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: tantrum on October 12, 2006, 01:28:04 PM AK- lolol i just saw similar hand recently the guy went all the way to river with AK.
amazing Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: thetank on October 12, 2006, 01:45:29 PM The AK play wasn't too iffy till the river I thought.
To be against a draw was somewhat unlikely 67, 36, T-high flush. I don't fancy any of these hands to have called pre-flop, and save the 22k he looked you up with. I think AQ's play on the turn was good. Shoving won't force a pass, so thoughts go to survival. Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: Royal Flush on October 12, 2006, 02:10:50 PM Calling with AK is to easy, Q hi calls are the nuts.
Title: Re: Interesting hand - What has he got? (not a trick question) Post by: ifm on October 12, 2006, 11:55:22 PM At least we found out Ironsides new username :D
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