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Not only is this a ridiculous format in which you cant buyin, they now offer odds on it.


How on earth can Flushy be 250-1 against this group of animals? 100 qualifiers in for the minimum, 200 players skint, and yet Lucy Rokach 80-1. Sentimental betting? Well anyone believes im wrong they can stake her headsup v me for anything they like, il even lay odds against.


Come on FLUSHY you can beat this joke field, 250-1 is a damn right insult.

How can you have a tournament where you cant pay for an entry? Utterly ridiculous in a game dominated by money such as poker.

It was meant to be an insult to Flushy, in a good humoured sort of way. He knows it and takes no offence.

80-1 Lucy Rokach is hardly sentimental betting. Two years ago she would have been one of the favourites.

If you think the format is ridiculous, you don't have to take part, but why do you think that only allowing players to qualify into an event rather than buying in directly makes it ridiculous?

You still have to pay money to try to qualify.

Utterly ridiculous that you feel the need to rubbish it.

It devalues the prestige of an event. Can you imagine Roger Federer having to travel to Blackpool so that he can play at Wimbledon? Or Tiger Woods having to travel to Skegness to play the Open? Insane.

I think its ridiculous you feel the need to defend it. Poker is a game that is about money. You pay your money, you take your place. Having a qualification only tournament is a joke.

The Grand Prix is something different. It is not pretending to be a tournament with the best quality field. It is not trying to be a Wimbledon or an Open. It is still however the biggest Pot Limit tournament in Europe and its appeal is growing year upon year. The prize pool is over £300,000, which for a £100 rebuy tournament, is not bad. The Grand Prix is open to all, but to make it to the finals in Walsall, you have to finish in the top 15% of any one of the 60+ qualifiers that have been held all over the country and online. The fact that so many pro players try to qualify (and they don't all make it) is a testimony to its appeal.

"The fact that so many pro players try to qualify (and they don't all make it) is a testimony to its appeal."

This just shows how desperate these so called "pros" are to play in a weak field if you ask me, excluding people from entry into a poker tournament goes against everything that poker represents imo. Its a joke event where the result is meaningless because it excludes a large number of players which would wish to play.

I cant see what is wrong with it? What is wrong with having a qualification only event? It's something different, and IMO a good idea. If you couldnt see the flushy odds as a joke, well, i dont know what to say. Oh, and by the way, he was 251/1 not 250.

There is no point in trying to debate with someone who merely wishes to flame.

The facts are, I have no reason to flame, you have a million reasons to defend.

You may have no reason to flame, but you did.

Putting Lucy down in the way you did and making repeated posts stating that it is a joke event and ridiculous is flaming.

I did not come up with the format of the Grand Prix but yes I am heavily involved with it and all Grosvenor events, but I expect that when the rest of the forum wakes up tomorrow, there will be many people who do not have a vested interest in the running of the event who will back me up.

Im entitled to my opinion about Lucy. If you disagree then get Blue Square to put up her stake to play me headsup in a best of 3, decent structured tourny for 5k. 80-1 is a sentimental price. In poker you back your opinions up with money, im willing to do this. Are you?

And  if you think i give a toss what anyone on here thinks you are badly mistaken. If they agree with you thats fine and they are entitled to their opinion but so am I, and i will express it as i choose fit.

Please correct your information. Flushy is NOT 250-1.

250-1 would be a bit generous.

Why don't you just challenge her directly yourself?

You defended her. I have no need to challenge her. She probably knows she should be 200-1.

Incorrect. I did not defend her. I challenged your assertion that 80-1 was a sentimenal price.

Yeah you're right. She is a big winner these days online and live. 80-1 represents a fair reflection of her true probability of winning. Can u imagine the cheek of someone questioning the accurateness of a blue square odds compiler?

Look, I am hardly denying your right to express your views. If you think someone is the wrong price you are perfectly entitled to express that. I do however disagree with the aggressive way in which you choose to express such views. Your choice though and my choice to tell you so.

sorry but i dont see the problem with this event its just the same as any other  xpect it held all over the country over a number of months any person can get to play including the pro they just have to turn up and play a live event anywhere in the country including "the vic" and if they are out the country chasing gold they also have the online events

whats the difference between this and  a multi start day ept event or a 2 week wsop everyone gets a chance to play but not all the "pros" get past day 1 infact very few % wise make the final 2 or 3 days

no matter who you are you have the same chance to play the "opening days" of this event if you couldnt find one to suit your schedule then you obviously had something more important to do and therefore why does it matter as its not important

if you did try and win a seat and didnt make it then you now now how the pros feel when they go out on day 1 of the wsop

I'm amazed at how many of the 'names' are at home playing this event and not here in Vegas for the WPT Festa El Lago i guess a few have European rankings considerations to take into account but that probably only applies to 3 or 4 people.

Blimey have you been home yet??

I can see the point Dubai is making (maybe not very eloquently) but as a one off event it isn't really a problem is it?
As for the Woods argument well he does have to qualify for the open, he needs to be in the top 100 or so in the world rankings. The open is not actually open to all, the qualifyers are though :D

Sort of..... spent 4 days at home then 10 days in Barcelona another 3 or 4 days at home then went to Aruba for 8 or 9 days before flying back here. Growing tired of the Americans though they are far more bearable from behind a computer screen. :)

Hi Dave. Hope you're still enjoying yourself. Is it still going well?

Hi Dubai, the price was a joke, Jamie and Jon always like to stick a complete rag in i had the honour today, i am not insulted by it (i know where i stand with Blue Square they did pay me into a few grands worth of comps!!)

As for some of the other prices i agree they are short, but this is a low volume betting market and as such blue square probably are out to limit thier potential loses on what is no more than a novelty market.

As for the event itself, i don't see why you are against it. This is not a 'championship event' it's something a bit diffrent, and like you say it has a weaker field and a massive prizepool, can't complain about that!

I notice my price is now 125 so i am guessing some of you have wasted some money! Sorry to hear that!

Hi Jon, ususal rollercoaster but having taken a month off online poker (ran horribly and started playing badly) and experiencing much smoother swings in the Bellagio and Wynn cash games i'm just about ready to dip my toes back into the internet world. Will update on WPT main event progress if i manage to satellite in.

I don't think it's really fair that this event carries ranking points as none of the other ranking events are subject to you having to qualify before you get the opportunity of collecting any points.

I dont think the" must qualify " criteria for the Grand Prix is that bad as its what the whole concept of the tournament has always been about. Making it unique from all the other regular tournaments.

Having Ranking point status? Not sure on that one,but nearly every tourny seems to have them now. What is the spec on that exactly?

I dont think saying Lucys pricing is sentimental is really "flaming" Jonathon. Its actually a very fair point. I must admit when I saw Dave C quoted as 50/1 jfav I was thinking as much along the same lines.
But to be fair like you said the poker betting is a novelty market and is intended as a bit of fun.
Who exactly makes these markets up as Ive alays thought they are way off the mark?
This is not meant as flaming just mearly my opinion

Dubai, I take it you didnt qualify for this event.

Honestly, did you try and fail? - SOunds like it to me.

The odds leave a little to be desired, as they always do in my opinion, but as it has been said before, this is a low level betting mainly aimed at poker players to "have a bit of fun" and I assume for the players playing (and their friends) to "have a punt".

I see no problem with the "have to qualify" format. This year I tried 3 times and failed to gain a seat.

It is without doubt one of the most popular events in the UK.

You are of course entatled to your opinion - as every one is.

As for the "challenge Lucy" post - uncalled for. And as suggested, she can be found on the circuit and I am sure she would play you heads up.

As for the heads up match it wouldnt last too long they'd both be allin at the first sighting of any paint or 2 matching cards.