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I give up.

I tried my best and Im obviously not good enough.

Ive been playing $3 stts to build up my bankroll which was rock bottom and doing ok till a fkin total wind up merchant got on my case.

I know I shouldnt have but...

25 - NL - 6 Seats 12338272-23 Holdem No Limit 30/60
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : Hand Start.
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has $1,530
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : Seat 5 : dr1ver has $6,310
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : Seat 6 : lildoyle? has $4,160
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : dr1ver is the dealer.
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : lildoyle? posted small blind.
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : MissHoolie posted big blind.
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : Game [23] started with 3 players.
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Oct 14 04:46:22] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has Jd Ts
[Oct 14 04:46:24] : dr1ver called 60
[Oct 14 04:46:25] : lildoyle? called 30
[Oct 14 04:46:27] : MissHoolie checked.
[Oct 14 04:46:27] : Dealing flop.
[Oct 14 04:46:27] : Board cards [7h Qs 8h]
[Oct 14 04:47:04] : lildoyle? checked.
[Oct 14 04:47:04] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Oct 14 04:47:07] : MissHoolie checked.
[Oct 14 04:47:12] : dr1ver bet 240
[Oct 14 04:47:14] : lildoyle? folded.
[Oct 14 04:47:33] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Oct 14 04:47:34] : MissHoolie called 240
[Oct 14 04:47:34] : Dealing turn.
[Oct 14 04:47:34] : Board cards [7h Qs 8h 9d]
[Oct 14 04:47:06] : MissHoolie checked.
[Oct 14 04:47:12] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Oct 14 04:47:15] : dr1ver bet 1,300
[Oct 14 04:47:17] : MissHoolie called 1,230 and is All-in
[Oct 14 04:47:18] : Showdown!
[Oct 14 04:47:18] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has Jd Ts
[Oct 14 04:47:19] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has Jd Ts
[Oct 14 04:47:19] : Seat 5 : dr1ver has 8d 7d
[Oct 14 04:47:24] : Board cards [7h Qs 8h 9d 8s]
[Oct 14 04:47:24] : Seat 5 : dr1ver has 8d 7d
[Oct 14 04:47:24] : dr1ver has Full House : 8s full of 7s
[Oct 14 04:47:25] : Seat 1 : MissHoolie has Jd Ts
[Oct 14 04:47:25] : MissHoolie has Straight QJT98
[Oct 14 04:47:25] : dr1ver wins 3,120 with Full House : 8s full of 7s
[Oct 14 04:47:31] : MissHoolie : lol

Mission...build ur bankroll up has taken come to a halt...ive got $3 left

Just bad luck, nothing more you could do.

Im not entirely sure about your call of 240 into a 180 pot with only a gutshot. Clearly not getting the right odds there! But once you get your money in when you have the straight its just plain bad luck. Theres no way to get away from those hands at these stakes.

suz

think of this run as variance

a very long extended run at that

the law of averages say ur gonna get your own back soon

You are calling big bet with a gut shot, which means you can only have 4 outs - 9 - 1 out (heart)9 heart will make someone's flush- so 3 outs for a straight, therefore you should not be in the hand in the first place.

From then on, the guy overplays his 2 pair but he probably thinks he might be ahead.

You can't really blame the other player for his/her play.  If you have folded on the flop you would not get 'a bad beat'.
If this is how you play your game, drawing to gutshots, in a long term you will be losing money. 

I think your playing the game with the most variance(NLHE) at the format's with the most variance(S+G and MTT) at the level with probable the most variance $5 and below.(and the winner for the most use of the word variance in one sentence goes to me). You’re going to have huge swings; have you noticed in the past that your BR has as much as quad rippled and then you have slowly gone broke? This used to happen to me all the time, only when I added solid cash game play at limit tables (7 card stud and HILO my games of choice) did I notice that the peaks and troughs of NLHE could be stabilised. Whatever you decide to do I hope you stick with poker because it really just sounds like a bad run, anyway seems like you get to much pleasure out of it to stay away too long, best of luck.

I wouldn't call the gutshiot in the 1st place tbh.

If you call with the gutshot, your bad run will be longer then you wish for.

Sorry for the moan but I was in a foul mood last night.

It was one of those nights that no matter what hand I played I just could not win cause some muppet called with rubbish and hit. That hand was probably not the best one to show as I was tired and as has been said I shouldn't really have been in the pot.

Its really been getting me down playing the $3 as the standard of play is just appalling and I should be able to make a profit on them but I just cant.

To give you an example there was 1 hand where mateyboy 1 has put a good size raise preflop and mateyboy 2 has called. I cant remember the exact cards but the flop was something like  Aspades 7d 3s, mateyboy 1 goes allin with  Ac Qc and mateyboy 2 goes allin with .....wait for it..... Ks 9h and yep the turn and the river were both spades.

How on gods earth are you suppose to beat these guys!!!

Suzanne, the last STT I've played in, I had 11k chips to the other three opponents having about 3k each. Hand 1: TT v 88. 8 on the flop. Next hand, TT again. Called all-in by 99. 9 on the flop. Final hand: KK. Called by AQ. A on the river. It's just bad luck when things like that happen, in the long run (and as people here keep telling me, the long run is very, very long) you'll win against players like that.


P.S. Paid my 150p

You need people calling needing runner runner to win, You cannot fail to win against these fools in the long term.

Stick at it Suzanne, Listen to all the advice on this great forum (and take it in) and you really cant fail.

Moritzey I think I would have  ;technophobe;

You are right Jim.....OK new day ....new mission  :D

Turn $3.69 into $31.50 by midnight tomorrow so I can play in the $1k game.

Come sit next to me in a cash game, i've been giving it away this week  ;frustrated; ;grr;

If it's any consolation Suzanne, I am in the same boat.  In many ways these $3 games are much harder to beat than the $10 or $20 games.  I'm down to my last $10, so  3 losses and that's me done. (hopefully it'll be 3 cases though)

Too right they are, $3 is nothing - £1.60ish - some people play these and mess about, don't take any beats personally at this level - no analysis needed, they call with anything.

Newsflash: pot calls kettle black.

Very helpful  :D

New mission is going okay so far

$1 9 seat (128 hands would you believe) 1st  $4.50
$2 9 seat                                            2nd  $5.40
$1 2 seat                                            won  $2

Next step was a bit tricky coz with $11+ I should have tried a $3 but I bloody hate the $3 now.......so .......$2 again or a $5 mmmmmm.....sod it ...go for a $5

$5 9 seat                                            2nd $13.50   Aspades Ks v  8d 8h....had to be done.

So im up to $19

Going steady  8)

Slight set back

$5 - NL - 9 Seats 12359864-42 Holdem No Limit 150/300
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Hand Start.
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Seat 1 : newsuper has $5,190
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Seat 2 : MissHoolie has $1,560
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Seat 6 : Howcroft has $6,430
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Seat 9 : Teflon_Don has $4,820
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Teflon_Don is the dealer.
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : newsuper posted small blind.
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : MissHoolie posted big blind.
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Game [42] started with 4 players.
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Oct 15 03:23:12] : Seat 2 : MissHoolie has Ad Qd
[Oct 15 03:23:15] : Howcroft folded.
[Oct 15 03:23:16] : Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Next level in: 4 min. 
[Oct 15 03:23:17] : Teflon_Don folded.
[Oct 15 03:23:23] : newsuper called 150 and raised 300
[Oct 15 03:23:26] : MissHoolie called 300 and raised 960 and is All-in
[Oct 15 03:23:28] : newsuper called 960
[Oct 15 03:23:29] : Showdown!
[Oct 15 03:23:29] : Seat 2 : MissHoolie has Ad Qd
[Oct 15 03:23:31] : Seat 1 : newsuper has Td Kd
[Oct 15 03:23:31] : Seat 2 : MissHoolie has Ad Qd
[Oct 15 03:24:08] : Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Next level in: 3 min. 
[Oct 15 03:24:14] : Board cards [Jd 5d Ts 3c 8c]
[Oct 15 03:24:14] : Seat 2 : MissHoolie has Ad Qd
[Oct 15 03:24:14] : MissHoolie has High Card : Ace
[Oct 15 03:24:14] : Seat 1 : newsuper has Td Kd
[Oct 15 03:24:14] : newsuper has Pair: 10s
[Oct 15 03:24:14] : newsuper wins 3,120 with Pair: 10
[Oct 15 03:24:23] : Hand is over.

Back down to $13 weeeeeeep

To make my target im gonna have to stick with the $5....wish me luck!!

Good luck Suze!

ty  :kiss:

I'm not sure $5 STTs are the best, quickest, most fun, or least frustrating way of spinning $13 into $31.50.  How about blackjack, $4 per hand?

Good Luck Suzanne :)

Latest update

Took a risk with the $5 and lost..was back down to $8 and to be honest I though b*****cks im not going back to the $1

Sat at the next $5 and WON!!!

On $25 now

Another dilemma...my aim here is to play the rebuy tomorrow..I have the buy in and the top up but I like to top up early doors and play it like a freeze out.

Ok decided to play safe and go for a $2...it will give me enough if I win and if I dont then I still have entry and add on..not ideal but kids r gonna be waking up soon lol

Lost the $2 so back down to $23

To be honest I would not like to go near the $1k without at least a top up and a rebuy.

Hope I can make up the difference tomorrow but I have a major problem here.

This is a "new" game and has not too many players, I know and have played most of them for some time now which gives me a bit of an advantage but I know I cant play as I would want to without the funds to back me up.

Im up $20 so im going to bed happy...see you all in the $1k tomorrow

Im guessing by your comments that you are a good card player and hopefully one day I will be able to give out the same advice but im sure I will be a little more tactful.

The joy of blonde is that I ...as a single parent with no life..can play with some of the best players in the country at a minimal fee and more important LEARN

Don't really see how tact comes into it.  I wasn't suggesting that you are so crap that you should give up poker.  The best STT players in the world (ie the ones who play perfect poker) will often lose ten (or more) STTs in a row, due to something called variance.  It is the same as if I flip a coin five times, I might get five heads in a row, but that doesn't mean that the coin isn't fair.  At $5 STTs, you can easily lose $50 without really doing anything wrong.  (Of course, the converse also applies, and you can also win $50 without really doing anything right.)

Going back to the coin analogy, suppose I am playing 'heads or tails' with you for $5/flip.  Let's suppose that the coin is weighted 60/40 to your advantage.  (This represents your skill over mine in an STT.)  If we both start with $10,000, then eventually you will certainly win all of my money.  However, if I start with $10,000 and you start with, say, $13, then the problem is that you might be unfortunate enough to start off on a losing run of three flips, and then you are bankrupt.  I am certainly not going to loan you any money, so by going bankrupt you have ruined your chances of winning my $10,000.

It would be more sensible to negotiate with me so that we start off playing for $0.50/flip.  Then when you have got up to $25, we can play for $1/flip, etc.  In this way, you always have a cushion to take the inevitable losing streaks (which will occur, regardless of your skill level), and you are almost guaranteed to win my $10,000.

Anyway, you probably know this already.  Unfortunately, your bankroll of $13 cannot sustain playing $5 STTs.  It is certainly not impossible to get to $31.50, far from it.  But it is basically completely random whether you succeed or not.  Other posters have pretty much made the exact same point.

If you want to spin up your $13 by playing $5 STT, then go ahead and have fun -- who am I to rain on your parade.

However if, as you claim, you want to improve your game, then you are going about it the completely wrong way and you are ignoring good advice (if not from me, then certainly from other forum posters).

I couldn't agree more with MrsLime.

maybe you dont but tact is a part of most folks everyday life. when tact is used, people listen. when its not, people can become defensive or offended. i think one of the principles of the blonde forum is  tact and it allows people to be open about their weakness without fear of critisism.

 :goodpost: and thank you for taking the time to reply.

The reason why I jumped up to the $5 stts is because this is where I normally play and I have the advantage of knowing many of the players and have notes on loads of them. The standard of play in general tends to be better and so I feel more comfortable playing there.

Also as I pointed out my goal was to reach $31.50, as I only play 1 table at a time I would have to win all the $1 games to reach that goal by tonight which is highly unlikely.

Anyway as last night is the first time in ages that I have been in profit I have decided to change my mind. It would be foolish to play the $1k with a rock bottom bankroll so I will give it a miss and will grind out the $1/2 stts till I have at least a three figure sum.

Thanks to all who gave advice.

Anyway

suz

i have seen you play a lot here

i think the problem right now lies with a combination of bankroll and confidence

get these 2 lil pearls up a notch or 2 and your a match for anybody


i would stake you if i had the funds

seriously

Suzanne - have you thought of playing cash games instead?

You will know a lot more about the game than 99% of the players at the low-stakes cash games - and I'm sure playing a tight aggressive game you will be able to build your bankroll up in no time. 

You'll probably suffer less variance in the cash games as well - but of course, this is poker, so the value of your (full) house can go down as well as up.

Just a thought - and best of luck with it!

My suggestion would be to play as many freerolls as possible until you earn a few dollars. Then you should return to the $5 STT's.

Aaaaaaaawwwwwwwww thank you granny :-)

I have tried cash in the past kinboshi when I hit a dry spell on the stts, I did okay on them for a while but I found it was effecting the way I played stts so I stopped though I do dabble now and again on another account. I prefer stts as I have found that THAT is where I play best.

Thats what I have been doing snoopy but unfortunatly havent been too lucky as yet.

Im gutted now that I did not stick to my plan to play the $1k coz ive just had a look and there are only 32 players weeeeeeeep

What I did when I was bust was play the $5 rebuy at Walsall. It was frustrating, but I had no choice. I just kept playing and playing until I won some money, and then I was away. The same applies with you and freerolls, you can't force a bankroll, you just have to keep plugging away at it.

In your current circumstances, I really would advice that you focus on playing as many freerolls as possible until you win something. It's free, so it won't cost you anything. You just need to be patient.

bah - you probably would have ended up in the same boat as me Suzanne.  I had a few dollars in my blonde account and spun it up to $36 this evening so decided to have a bash at the $1k added (which I have just realised is $2k gtd).  Was going really well, made final table as 3rd CL then out in 8th two from the money - absolutely gutted.  So, I've got $6 in my account now, so guess I'll be seeing you at the $1 tables soon :)

I'm going through a bad patch too :(

I went thru a bad patch playing $5 STT's on stars trying to build a roll on there but it just wasnt working out, So i deposited enough for 20 buy-ins at the $10 level (i know its not really enough but i could afford to lose it and i like a challenge) :D

And now im killing them, And enjoying the rush (i have to coz a dry spell is never to far away)  But I've realised i am a good and winning player and and will continue to beat this game for a long time to come with good discapline and money management (have enough to stay at the $10 for a little while and those $20's aint too far away)


Good luck Suz.

Mortified when I read the original post..........just had some time off because I also went through a patch. There is no way round it. It happens to all regardless of ability including crappy players like myself. When it happens to me I walk away for a bit. I know I will come back but only when my head is in the right place. The only certainty is that there is always another game. The only advice I give now is for any player in this situation (who is not a professional) is to take a break. Read a good book. Come back when in your head you want to play. Take the pressure off yourself. Remember the joy of playing because you want to play. That $1k game will still be there. Most of the faces will be the same. For us amateurs the game can become all consuming.

Needless to say all of this is easy to say but harder to do...........trust me I know

I agree with Snoop, practise your tourney skills with freerolls.

I don't know if you are already a member of bet365, pokertime, dreampoker or any of the above sites..but if you're not you should sign up. 1k freeroll three times a day + 500$ freeroll (7 stud I think) +200$ freeroll. no raked hand requirements..you can sign up and only play freerolls + on saturday there's a 5k$ freeroll.

If you want to turn 13$ into 31..5'er STT's are a silly way to go. Practise your HU skills and 13$ turns into 31$ fairly easily as long as you are patient enough (and know how to play HU)

I was watching you Claire and you were very unlucky when you pushed with 88 to be up against AA, you didnt put a foot wrong otherwise..was going to say "Good Luck" but I was just typing it to you and Scott when he went out so didnt want to bok you  :D Nothing you could have done hunny was just bad luck.

Can I just explain that the majority of the posts I have made on here are about my Blonde account.

I originally started on VC and wouldnt dare hazzard a guess at how many hundreds/thousands I put on there playing mostly $1 games, it was a hobby that was cheaper than going to the bingo (at least I won at the bingo though).

Then I saw a post on here about a UPL/Blonde freeroll so I joined there (almost 2 years ago), from my initial deposit of £20 + £20 + £20 I then started to make a profit from reading hand analysis etc my game got better. When I reached $500 I promised myself I would never deposit again...If I went bust then that was it. I managed to go to $700 at one stage then experimented with cash, higher stake mtts etc and it all went horribly wrong.

I could quite easily deposit another £50 into Blonde its not that I cant afford to, its that I WON'T...its a pride thing I guess.

I have god knows how many other accounts with other sites that have much more than my meagre $23 in Blonde right now but Blonde is where I play mostly and its where I love to play.

I am frustrated that 1) I blew my bankroll in the first place and 2) im too stubborn to go back on the promise I made to myself.

But in a way im kinda glad its happened coz when I do get back on my feet it WONT happen again.

Looking forward to the "woohoo just hit $1k post"  8)

Good on ya Jim  :)up

Snatty...crappy players like myself ...pahhh :kiss:

Boldie I cashed $5 in that Saturday freeroll once I will have you know  :D

Being stubborn and sticking to the promises you make to yourself is a virtue indeed, certainly not a flaw.

While you may be frustrated by it, be free to feel a little proud of yourself too.

yeah..but don't let it get in the way of continuing to play poker....

Learn from the experience of blowing your bankroll and then get back on that horsie.

From my perspective, I consider my 'bankroll' to be the bankroll I have across all sites, and would have no compunction at all about withdrawing money from another site and pumping it somewhere else, somewhere I'd rather play.

However, we all make our own rules about how we play. Suz, the very best of luck to you in this new endeavour, I hope it works for you.

:)up

When you have been hurt badly by someone you have trusted for a long time it effects ur confidence and the way you play.

Im over it.

See u all tomorrow in the league game.

sorry to hear you've been having a bad time Suzanne.  Glad to hear things are on the up.