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ok i think we blondites need to get behind the baron in his quest to be sponsored by UB

as refered to in thispost (http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=1599.msg38643#msg38643)


all those in favour say aye

those against go and stick your head in a bucket of sand

I am NOT in fasvour, but then again, I dion't wanna stick my head in a bucket of sand. Where would we find a bucket big enough, for starters?

So I'm in favour......

You were serious? Oh my days. :o

support our fellow blondites in there hour of need

can i get sponsored?

No, you are Scottish.

have you sent your poker cv to any potetial sponsor and gotten refused?

They would turn him down because he's Scottish. A sponsored player needs to be able to speak properly, in a way we can all understand.

r u saying MrsC should never be sponsored into a poker event

specsavers and pukka pies turned me down for sponsorship :)

Mrs C?

No, SHE could be sponsored, because folks like to LOOk at her.....

Im in favour

I am also avalable for sponsorship and Bar Mitzva's

I'm in favour and available for Bar lock-ins.

i had a cunning ploy to sell space on my nose as its the most obvious place when playing live.

Also it contains more square footage than a formula one car for signs ;D

On the same theme, potential sponsors should note that I would provide considerably more shirt advertising space than most players!

Sheriff

I myself would also have a fair amount of space for ads and logos, however much would be covered if the pies mentioned above are the mince & gravy ones, they are so messy! ;D

I say yes to The Baron and sponsorship!!

would someone like to make up a poker cv for me so i can write off and get refused sponsorship!!! Could work tho, they can be on 10% q Kev... he should be an agent to the stars ;D

Cheers

At-iT

i thought you already had sponsorship from vidal sassoon

lol Funny you should mention that "Vidal"  watch this space ;)    

don't forget the yellow suit for barry... sponsorship from vidal fell thru as we had different artistic visions!!!

i defo think that is the next step in poker, "agents" so to speak representing a pool of players that they arrange different deals for. for a slice, this could work as they can arrange deals for individuals/groups for competitions with different groups when it suits both parties! Rather than both parties being tied to long contracts!

Ian

i think celebpoker does something similar to this, they claim they are "sending" various "stars" to the starcity £1000er but that may be because they are sponsoring the event.
Seeing as most deals (i'm not sure here) involve buyins to big comps will the sponsor pay extra for an agent?
What i mean is that there isn't any real hard cash in most cases is there?

I personally think that sponsorhip of players for a particular length of time will fade out soon, and tournament by tournament sponsorship will replace it ....  also if said "agent" had lets say 15 players on his books, the ability to negotiate cheaper hotel and travel expenses would be a benefit, and to negotiate with companies for individual sponsorship would be easier for an "agent"....... MONSTER MONSTER BUBBALLAH ...( with apologies to the great Eric Hall)

will railbirds get agents too?

i think it will be either paid as a retainer thru the sponsor and/or a percentage of the players earnings for the competition... these would all depend on what deal te agent could gain for his players...

Ian

Tourny by tourny would not be a good idea, companies would say sponsor me to enter a comp and then end up offering the winner sponsorship to the next event. i.e. there would be no room for dips of form.
At least with a year long deal there is some security etc

defo kev the is the way forward... with so many events/playes now individual event sponsorship is the the most likely way for this to happen, unless like william hill they are building a "brand" name and want to try and keep the same well known faces at each event rather than chopping and changing! If your trying to get sponsorship you have to look at it and see what does the company get out of paying you into said £1000 comp... as they won't definately get alot of exposure from the event, and do they really need/want a percentage of your winnings!

At-iT

companies dont want to sponsor a player so he is comfortable for a whole season... they want results and exposure ... they only get that from sponsoring winners .... harsh but true.

if all the sponsors are after is exposure during a tourny or festival they are missing out

some might say the mob havent been that successfull on the felt since there hook up with prima

but the exposure the mob have given prima is 2nd to none in the sponosrship stakes and the

deal prima have given the mob has helped the mob get over a barren tourniment spell

without worring about the next buyin


ps i dont know how successfull the mob has been in the cash games or online but i would guess they havent broken even on tourny buy ins since there deal with prima

I agree Kev, i was looking at it from the players point of view (obviously) i think it'll be bad for the players if they get dropped every event, think of the added pressure you'll be under to get a result!!
It would be near impossible for peeps to play their 'A' game under such circumstances and therefore wouldn't do the company much good in the long run

I think it would be good for players... as i think you can get into a comfort Zone while playing, if you don't get sponsorship for the next event you'll have pay into it yourself! Go away and improve your game to try and regain the deal... Suvival of the fittest so to speak(no pun intended!)

At-iT

exactly ifm ... thats why an agent would be a good idea for the players, knowing that someone is pushing for sponsorship for you, and taking all the hassle out of booking hotels, travel arrangements etc, can only be good for a player who wants to concentrate 100% on his game

lol, just think of all the abuse you'd get!!! (as an agent ;D)

Plus, imagine the pull an "agent" would have if he had proven tournament winners on his books, the ability to negotiate a deal for more than one of his players would be increased, say player "A" has won or placed well in a few comps, but then has had a bad couple of tournies... the fact that you represent him AND maybe the winner of the comps where he has ducked, you can start to sell a package rather than an individual.

Abuse ??  I thrive on it ;)   

You do not need to be an agent to get abuse.

Try being in your early forties, blonde, stunningly handsome, drop dead sexy, & running a Poker Forum. Gets you HEAPS of abuse.

yes kev i've been thinking about this along the same lines for quite a while... disscussed this with another person aswelll, lets do it £ColchVida£ agencies! if you would like representing just pm me or Kev, with some peronal details and results you've had! Don't call us we'll call you!

At-iT

i dont know anyone like that

apart from dave colclough but i would miss out the handsome and sexy bit

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LOL nice one ian .... and as for Tikay's comments ... well i spose he does run a poker forum, but the rest must be someone else ;)

ian put me down for needing a sponsor for the vic,walsall and blackpool

but what if they all duck in the next tourny? or the next 2 or 3? you're left with no bargaining power at all.
I see what you're saying i just think, too much power would be handed over to the companies.
I know Mathew Francis (son of blues god (player only) Trevor), he ran a footie agents business taking commision for transfers etc.
He ended up getting done selling hookie clothing cuz his players didn't do the biz where it mattered.

Ironside .... if you want to discuss terms..feel free, im unsure as to whether you would be happy to pay our fees, im sure we could get a maker of fish food interested in you though ;)

kev you get me into the vic walsall and blackpool for nothing and i will gladly give away 50% of my winnings

pm any results then ironside and once we have a collective pool of players we will be able to start talking!

And not that bloody irish cahmpionship malarchy... proper results!

i can see the yellow cat suits now Kev lol

Vidal

excuse me

INTERNATIONAL IRISH CHAMPION 2005

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ifm, thats where a good agent earns his corn, its all about selling people...and i agree that a run of bad results can make the job difficult, but thats where having good regular money winners on your books is so important... I mean look at barry hearns matchroom mob, some of them were never going to win a tournament, but he packaged them as a team and they all made good money ... and so did Mr. hearn lol

that's it then you need to set up your own mob ;D
Blonde mob
Blonde crew
team Blonde
the blonde boys
boys from the blonde stuff

Shouldn't say this stuff, we all know what a media whore Tikay is

mine and Ian "Vidal's" company will be called ... W.E.B.B. promotions .....


Wonkey eye bad barnet ;)

lol! its not bad tho... and your eye only looks wonky if you look at it straight in front of you...

come on sign up quick ironside it can't be taking you this long to right your results out!

Pm me quick Mr Vidal

130 emoticons from Red-Dog. Exactly 10 times how many runners there were when Ironside won his International Irish Championship.

Thats the trouble ... it NEVER looks straight in front of me ;)

having only played in a few events (other than small fish rebuys)

2 monies out of 3 visits to the vic last year
and THE INTERNATIONAL IRISH CHAMPION 2005 (and current holder)

RED CARD

cant you count 10x16 =160

Ahh, there were TEN runners. I thought there were  more.

gotta say Ironside that sounds like a dog show ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I counted 128 (sad innit)

the card room was only 28 short of capiticty i will let you work out the rest

i want small fis rebuy results... these show pedigree!!! look at junior yoyo they play these week in week out and get results! and they have had big results around the country/world! its still the same game you no even if the buyin is lower than a £100! online resultrs count in decent multis...

i don't think we can use the irish thing? they don't play that in many places... we'd ave to explain the rules!

Ian

ok last rebuy event i played in was the £25 at walsall where of course i took home £450 in a deal

first rebuy event i played was a £20 where i where i took home £800 in a 3 way split

dont play many as 3 hour round trip is along way to go when i can play online freezeouts

Sponsorships for players simply have to become more commonplace especially for TV events.  There is no way a player (even with the best results) can afford to keep churning out the buy-ins to all the uk circuit events on what they win alone.  It is incredibly costly.  I for one am going to have to start cutting back on what i play due to other commitments which is gonna take up a lot of my cash.  The costs of buy-ins, travel expenses, accomodation etc really does price out a lot of very good players that want to play the circuit events and would do well but cant really afford to commit to more than a couple of events due to the massive costs. 

The sponsors have to start sponsoring events properly by adding money to the prize pool (hurrah for Laddies and William Hill) and other companes (including non poker) need to get involved in the events by sponsoring players - the exposure they (the sponsoring company) would get is massive especially in the TV events and they could always but a % payback clause into the contract to help recoup the costs once their man comes good.

as i said when we got 10 handed tonight please add september 2005 blondepoker champ to my cv