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Nearly every hand history i read in this section is where the thread author got unlucky, lost a race etc etc.

Now Analysing and Bad Beats are two different things, Can't remember seeing one of these threads where the author was actually lucky.

I vote that only hand historys with some relevance to actually playing it right or not should be posted.

I know bad beats are frustrating. I get them and give them all the time! Its just frustrating reading these hoping to analyse them when in reality they are disguised bad beats.

For example - If you need to ask somebody if it was right to go all in with your aces pre flop and he/she called with kings and you lost then you shouldnt be playing!

Come on guys, at least give us a warning if its a bad beat!

 ;whistle; ;whistle; ;whistle; ;whistle; ;hide; ;hide;

wonders how long it will take for people to react to the above post (though you have a point in some posts i have read lately more BB story then something to analyze)

you obviously dont read the board very often then


I dont think this is relevant at all... there is a wide range of skill levels on this board, some complete beginners and some advanced players, it seems like you want the beginners to stop posting hands that might seem basic to you. Guess what, they aren't basic to the beginners.



why dont you give us an example of a thread on here that actually might be pertinent to your point, instead of this nonsensicle fabrication? that comes back to the second point in here anyways... its not obvious to new players. If they post here, and get it explained to them thoroughly, rather then crap like "you shouldn't be playing" then they will learn for the future.

boards like this are what they are... it surely doesn't need people to try and arbite what is and isn't a good post. What it does need is people to read threads and comment on them if they have something positive to say, and keep quiet if they have nothing to say.

I just want some decent hands, at any stake level, to either analyse, or watch other people analyse. Im sure thats what this child board is for!

Listen,

The stakes are uneccesary. The point im trying to make is that this board isn't for bad beats disguised as 'did i play this correct' hands.

I read this board every day, And i like to have an input and try and help people out if and where i can.

Ok, the top 7 threads are where people lost a hand.

Id like to comment on a hand where someone won a pot, maybe they were lucky, maybe they didnt maximise their winnings etc etc

may I suggest my one (and only thread) in which I flopped the set, found myself still behind and all that?.(got lucky in the end)..still no decent reply to it in the way of hand analyses...and it would have been greatly appreciated.

it's called sooted connectors what would you do? (or something similar)

I'll have a butchers mate...

As a relative beginner, I understand both sides of what you're saying.

I think the reason that many of the hands offered for analysis are 'bad beats' are because people aren't sure if it was a bad beat, or if they misplayed the hand and lost a bundle because of that.  Maybe people want reassurance that they actually played a hand OK and that they're not completely useless.  They're also the hands that stick in the player's mind the longest.

The other problem with more 'subtle' problems is that it relies on the poster to include all the relevant table information about how tight/loose the other players were, what the play had been like up to the hand in question, etc.  Otherwise the only advice that can be given is 'it depends'.

But yes, it would definitely be interesting to see a wider variety of hands for analysis, especially if the respected players on here are willing to spend their time giving out very valuable advice.

I agree with Kinboshi,

I think players (myself included) can misplay but win a hand and not know they've misplayed it. It is only when you lose a hand you start asking yourself questions.

Some people are looking for advice on how to play hands differently, I know I have posted bad beats and hands wheer i was behind from the start, all to get advice on how I could have played a hand differently in order to win. 

Its strange this has come up as Thetank and I were having a similar discussion earlier in the week.

Which board should we moan on then? We need to get it off our chest somewhere, my wife has no clue what I'm talking about if I tell her a bad beat story!!!

I understand, It wasnt directed at you, or anyone in particular.

I know that hand with aces was terribly sick. With the money at stake etc its a sick beat in that sense.

Maybe we could have a bad beat child board?

I was joking

From a personal point of view, I post on here very rarely.  When I do it's usually where I've lost a hand, but had a feeling I could have won it if I'd played it differently, and that's why I come for advice.  I guess that's the case for a lot of people.  I have taken to leaving the results of the hand off when I post though, after I posted recently genuinely looking for advice and it was construed as a moan.

I agree to an extent about having bad beat warnings (i believe i have mentioned it before) but in some cases a BB can be avoided by a different play down the streets.
It's the ones where no matter what you did they were calling that annoy me.

That's a very important points.  Some of the 'bad beats' are actually due to poor play (or not the best play).  It might be a case of 'I think this is a bad beat, but did I do anything wrong at any stage, so I could have avoided it?'

I think a lot of the bad beat posts are people looking for reassurance that they didn't play it badly - or should have 'known better'.

Or they might just be bad beat stories and be looking for sympathy...because when they told the dog, it wasn't particularly impressed.

Not always, but a majority of the time..bad beats are caused by one or more of the players making a mistake in the hand. Examples...didn't bet large enough on the flop, the raise pre-flop was incorrect, you were giving proper odds with your bets on turn because you got greedy with an overpair.

Just because someone may read a bad beat and think morons knew better, does not mean you can not analize and offer excellent and useful advice to one or more of the players in the hand.

We are all here to learn poker from one another and whether it comes in the form of a bad beat hand being posted should be of little difference, imo.

Stacey

Stacey,

There is much more to poker analysis than getting bad beats.

For example -

You outdraw someone and got lucky, did you play the hand badly?

You have the nuts on the river, someone calls your bet, could you have bet more?

You came home drunk last night and lost your bankroll, was this wise?

What i see is a collection of bad beats in this thread which have very little in them to analyse.

Sorry if i caused any offence in my first post, i re read it and it came over a bit aggressive. It wasn't meant like that, i just wanted to point out that bad beats shouldn't be disguised as hand histories...

Thanks for reply Sunday..I am new to Blondepoker forum, but not new to poker.  I agree hands without bad beats are more interesting to analize. I personally like the hands posted where you decide each move on each street before the actual result is posted. I seem to learn more from those as people look at the cards, positions of players, and betting to offer their opinion rather than view the end result.

I did not take offense to your post...takes much more than that to ruffle my feathers, just wanted to point out that even with some bad beat hands things can be learned either by the winner of the hand or the loser of the hand, or both.

Stacey