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Title: Opinions Please...
Post by: Sunday8pm on October 24, 2006, 05:48:58 PM
Not sure whether i played this hand badly or well :dontask:

both the raiser and the caller are both pretty loose, standard pokerstars players.

Do i need to jam river? I think so, i think his calling range is very wide as i do kinda look like i have AK with the action pre flop and on the flop.

Opinions please :). Oh and i know i lost the hand, so i promise i'll post a winning hand up soon :):):)

PokerStars Game #6751939853:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/10/24 - 12:37:52 (ET)
Table 'Merga' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: ttroutking ($10.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Ifish#1in06 ($100.90 in chips)
Seat 3: GruvMachine ($92 in chips)
Seat 4: zat210 ($338.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Dynamite321 ($86.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Ghoststep ($211.10 in chips)
ttroutking: posts small blind $0.50
Ifish#1in06: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dynamite321 [As Qd]
GruvMachine: raises $3 to $4
zat210: calls $4
Dynamite321: raises $10 to $14
Ghoststep: folds
ttroutking: folds
Ifish#1in06: folds
GruvMachine: calls $10
zat210: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Td 7s 3c]
GruvMachine: checks
zat210: checks
Dynamite321: checks
*** TURN *** [Td 7s 3c] [Qh]
GruvMachine: checks
zat210: checks
Dynamite321: bets $28
GruvMachine: folds
zat210: calls $28
*** RIVER *** [Td 7s 3c Qh] [7d]
zat210: checks
Dynamite321: bets $44.95 and is all-in
zat210: calls $44.95
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dynamite321: shows [As Qd] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
zat210: shows [Kd Ks] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
zat210 collected $186.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $189.40 | Rake $3
Board [Td 7s 3c Qh 7d]
Seat 1: ttroutking (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Ifish#1in06 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: GruvMachine folded on the Turn
Seat 4: zat210 showed [Kd Ks] and won ($186.40) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 5: Dynamite321 showed [As Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 6: Ghoststep (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: Opinions Please...
Post by: Newmanseye on October 24, 2006, 06:01:52 PM
If you jam the pot on the river he calls, its that simple, you got away from it cheap, you played it right as far as I can see.


Title: Re: Opinions Please...
Post by: Sunday8pm on October 24, 2006, 06:05:43 PM
I didnt get away from it cheap i did nearly a full buy in!

Off to get leathered - Best way to deal with losses :)


Title: Re: Opinions Please...
Post by: jezza777 on October 24, 2006, 06:10:45 PM
My first instinct is that you overplayed this a bit and I am not sure the jam on the river is the way to go. I am tired though, and river my  decisions are generally very very tight , I tend to overapply the river principle and lose out on a lot of value. I will post again later when I've snoozed.


Title: Re: Opinions Please...
Post by: Newmanseye on October 24, 2006, 06:48:48 PM
MY bad, I misread the post and it seems you did Jam the pot on the river.   :blonde:



Title: Re: Opinions Please...
Post by: tantrum on October 24, 2006, 11:35:33 PM
Why did you check the flop?

I really want to know by the flop where I am with my hand, unless I have a hand of some sort.  It is all depending on your opponents; if they lkike to come over the top or whatever.  What did you put your opponent on?
? ? ? ?
If he pays attention and you tend to check after the raise if you have AK/Q on the ragged flop, he is waiting for you to do betting for him.  There are various possibilities, but I bet on the flop to see where I am.





Title: Re: Opinions Please...
Post by: snoopy1239 on November 01, 2006, 07:38:30 AM
If you are going to re-raise preflop, then you need to bet the flop, otherwise there isn't much point to you re-raising pre-flop in the first place. The point of this is to gain control of the hand, yet you relenquish that control as soon as you check the flop.

If you'd bet the flop, then he might have re-raised and you could have got away. If he'd flat-called then at least you'd have somesort of info on his hand.

As it was, he was playing it rather sneakily and once the Queen arrives it's very difficult to get away from as he has checked TWICE, therebye signifying you're ahead.

Very few people play Kings like he did, so I wouldn't take too much from this hand as, in the grand scheme of poker, it's an exception. However, you need to bet that flop.