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Title: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: ACE2M on October 27, 2006, 02:41:14 PM
Never played the oppo before. blinds 10/20

Get dealt  Ahrt Qh in the BB and sb/b raises to 80

You flat call and the flop comes  Aspades Kd 3h

You raise 120 and the SB re raises to 360

What do you do?


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: SupaMonkey on October 27, 2006, 02:49:06 PM
Call.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 02:58:35 PM
How many chips do you have?

I would call, then check raise most of the time.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: ACE2M on October 27, 2006, 03:01:59 PM
1500 chips


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: ACE2M on October 27, 2006, 03:03:34 PM
Call.

With a view to doing what else?

this is $100 so assume not a lunatic.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 03:07:07 PM
this is $100 so assume not a lunatic.

 rotflmfao

Sorry, lol i play the 100's, that's what i assume every game!


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: boldie on October 27, 2006, 03:19:17 PM
Never played the oppo before. blinds 10/20

Get dealtĀ  Ahrt Qh in the BB and sb/b raises to 80

You flat call and the flop comesĀ  Aspades Kd 3h

You raise 120 and the SB re raises to 360

What do you do?

1500 chips i guess? he should have something that beats you but some people think bluffing is the way to go.

I would move in.

edit* wouldn't even be surprised if he turns over KQ or something like that.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: ACE2M on October 27, 2006, 03:21:31 PM
this is $100 so assume not a lunatic.

 rotflmfao

Sorry, lol i play the 100's, that's what i assume every game!

Lol.

Always amazed by the loons willing to throw $100 away HU.
Played a guy earlier and i won every pot apart from one and the blinds got to 25/50. Most were just min bets, then when he does decide to play back he does it with a stone cold bluff for all his chips KQJ board


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: SupaMonkey on October 27, 2006, 03:31:16 PM
Check call down, he will fire on the turn for sure and may even launch a massive bluff on the end. Imo you're ahead here a lot more often than not but then again i'm not good enough to play $100 HU.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 03:34:27 PM
he should have something that beats you

Not a weaker A? There was no backraise pre flop i think my AJ is good in his shoes


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: thetank on October 27, 2006, 03:40:46 PM
I definately think the call is the way to go here.

He has no more than 5 outs if behind. His raise is very likely just trying to cling onto the betting initative.

Call then check raise turn.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: boldie on October 27, 2006, 03:45:03 PM
he should have something that beats you

Not a weaker A? There was no backraise pre flop i think my AJ is good in his shoes



Oh I am not saying that he doesn't have a weak ace...Like I said he could have KQ. but a good player should have something that beats you here IMO. he raised pre-flop and you called.
But when he reraises you on the flop for 360 (25% of his stack) he should have a hand.

then again...if you know nothing about the player he could have any two cards I guess.You have a high ace though so that would lead me to put my chips in the middle.
I love slow playing a high ace heads up but I don't mind taking 430 chips off him on the first hand (if he folds) and then for the rest of the session having him covered and being able to bleed him dry.

Call and then check raising the turn works aswell ofcourse. but i rather take it there and then on the flop on the first hand.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 04:11:11 PM

Call and then check raising the turn works aswell ofcourse. but i rather take it there and then on the flop on the first hand.

I don't get why? You want to give him a second chance.

You have a MONSTER hand for HU. Get the most for it.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: boldie on October 27, 2006, 04:17:24 PM

Call and then check raising the turn works aswell ofcourse. but i rather take it there and then on the flop on the first hand.

I don't get why? You want to give him a second chance.

You have a MONSTER hand for HU. Get the most for it.

another reason for moving all in here is that some people will call you no matter what. they get caught up in the raising war of a HU tourney and think you are just as bad as they are. I am just saying I'd be happy going all-in right here and now. HU can be played soo many ways but I reckon if you call most people would also check the turn after you check it...so then you'd give someone a chance to hit twice. I only slow play the nuts HU, yes you have a monster but I don't give someone free cards if I think (and in this case I do) that he already has a piece of the flop.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 04:25:55 PM

Call and then check raising the turn works aswell ofcourse. but i rather take it there and then on the flop on the first hand.

I don't get why? You want to give him a second chance.

You have a MONSTER hand for HU. Get the most for it.

another reason for moving all in here is that some people will call you no matter what. they get caught up in the raising war of a HU tourney and think you are just as bad as they are. I am just saying I'd be happy going all-in right here and now. HU can be played soo many ways but I reckon if you call most people would also check the turn after you check it...so then you'd give someone a chance to hit twice. I only slow play the nuts HU, yes you have a monster but I don't give someone free cards if I think (and in this case I do) that he already has a piece of the flop.

The only thing that calls now is Ax, that calls anyway, let them bluff the rest off.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: jezza777 on October 27, 2006, 04:26:53 PM
You can think that you are so far ahead here in a heads up pot moving in is a bit ott. I want to get my chips in but am happy to do it through the streets.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 04:30:55 PM
You can think that you are so far ahead here in a heads up pot moving in is a bit ott. I want to get my chips in but am happy to do it through the streets.

Thats what i have been trying to say, lol, ty Jezza for putting it much better than me!


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: ACE2M on October 27, 2006, 04:41:03 PM
i called and C/R'd the turn. Unfortunately the 6 had tripped him up but just wanted to confirm that i am right trying to get them all in the middle. I'm never getting away from that HU on the first hand against unknown oppo, won too many times with that situation to stop now.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 04:43:19 PM
i called and C/R'd the turn. Unfortunately the 6 had tripped him up but just wanted to confirm that i am right trying to get them all in the middle. I'm never getting away from that HU on the first hand against unknown oppo, won too many times with that situation to stop now.

yup just ul


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: SupaMonkey on October 27, 2006, 08:03:05 PM
Why does everyone c/r the turn? I would call the turn bet and then fire on the river.


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: thetank on October 27, 2006, 09:37:37 PM

Why does everyone c/r the turn? I would call the turn bet and then fire on the river.


-When he bets the turn, there will be enough in the pot (1,000 chips+) that you will be happy to take it down.

-Calling two decent sized bets on a drawless board arouses suspicion, he's unlikely to call a river bet if he wouldnt call the turn raise. (unless he hit two pair on 5th street  ;) )

-It can sometimes be easier to get chips in on the turn (when your opponent can still hit his miracle) than on the river (when he knows he's missed completely)


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: Royal Flush on October 27, 2006, 09:41:06 PM

Why does everyone c/r the turn? I would call the turn bet and then fire on the river.


-When he bets the turn, there will be enough in the pot (1,000 chips+) that you will be happy to take it down.

-Calling two decent sized bets on a drawless board arouses suspicion, he's unlikely to call a river bet if he wouldnt call the turn raise. (unless he hit two pair on 5th street  ;) )

-It can sometimes be easier to get chips in on the turn (when your opponent can still hit his miracle) than on the river (when he knows he's missed completely)

FM, i didn't know you knew how to play poker tank.

I agree with everything he said


Title: Re: 1st hand of a heads up stt
Post by: thetank on October 27, 2006, 10:36:48 PM
Can't really play, I just got lucky there with a randomly worded post.