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I saw the remake of Get Carter last night for the first time and it makes me wonder why people make remakes when the original movie was as close to perfect as you would want to get.

I loved the original Get Carter with Michael Caine, it was a great story with a great non hollywood ending, I have seen similar feats of stupidity with the remakes of the Italian job and Alfie, what will be next?

Truthfully i see no point to remaking an already great movie other than for financial gain, what ever happened to the artistic approach?

Can you imagine in 10 - 20 years time some upstart coming along and planning to remake the shawshank redemption, do you think its possible to make a better version of that movie?

As I am typing i am reminded of the only time i ever agreed with the remaking of a movie and that was the remake of the Shining,  Stephen King was never happy with the original version so HE remade it the way he thought it should be ( who' going to argue with the writer?)  Yet after watching his version and the one we all know, I prefer the original, the interpretation make for a better movie, but short of this I really cant see a reason to remake good movies badly.

Any opinions on this ?

Aside from The Thing (remake of The Thing From Another Planet) and Heat (LA Takedown), I'm struggling to think of any remakes that have been anything more than mediocre. I think if the best idea a studio can come up with is remaking something then your probably scraping the bottom of the creativity barrel already.

The remake of the Ring isn't bad - even though thew original is quality.

Reservoir Dogs is sort of a remake of City of Fire.

But in the main you are right, for me the worst remake ever has to be The Vanishing - Sluizer's original has to be one one of the best atmospheric films ever made - ruined by Hollywood.

Charlie and the Chocolate factory is the worst re-make ever. Completely spoiled the classic

Studios do the remakes, purely for financial reasons.  And with good marketing, most people will go and watch a remake so the box office return is guaranteed.  Remake of the old classic, not so bad as, making an american version of the foreign film within two or three years of the original's release. 

Well tbh nothing wrong with that per se, as film script is a text, blue print open to interpretion by the director, so if 5 directors worked from the same script we would have 5 different films.

It is a shame that money is spend on so much rubbish these days, but if we take into account the fact that most film producers are ex-bankers and lawyers without any training nor passion for visual arts, this state of affairs should not be so suprising.

agreed tim burton messed that up big time

the oompalumpas were awful,is there a shortage of midgets around??


planet of the apes was another bad one

Let's not forget the mighty 'Swept Away'.....

Maybe we should separate them into remakes of foreign films (because the general public can't read subtitles, apparently...), Colour remakes of Black and White films (because the general public hates black and white, apparently...) and all other 'vanity' remakes.

Get Carter(remake) was indeed shocking. I thought that the remake of Ring completely ruined 'the moment', (you know the one I mean) but that's my opinion. I always tell people not to bother with the remake of that, or at least wait until they've seen the original, lest one of the scariest moments in cinema history is forever tarnished for them...

A good remake for you: Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the 70's version with Donald Sutherland), easily one of the creepiest films of all time. The Thing, I also agree with - mainly because it's so very different from the original, it only uses the same jumping-off point.

I wouldn't say that these are better than the originals though, just different - and therefore also good.

Its not just films that suffer the remake syndrome!!!

All the many thousands of remakes of numa numa song on newsgrounds made me sick. The original was unique, one of a kind.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/206373 - the guy actually "remade" the video removing the pictures and stuff, which made it slightly less funny but at least its in sync.

Im talking about the copy catters who made loads of SHIT versions of the one of a kind original... just not funny.

Echoing some of the earlier comments here but here's some random thoughts...

Agree remakes are nearly always badly done. Usually because they aren't re-done as a way of improving or building on the original but just to earn a quick buck.... no love there man.

A few exceptions...

The Thing was an improved remake imo..

When I heard Hollywood were remaking Ringu, I was not at all optimistic and was hoping they didn't butcher one of my favourite horror films.

However, I was surprised that they actually did a pretty good job, though i agree with Zim that the main moment of the film and also the video(soooo freaky) are much better in the original.

More remakes that totally SUCK

He-man. They totally screwed it up. AND ditto transformers.

Oceans Eleven was decent.

Why are we all so sceptical about the motives behind remakes?

It could just be that filmmakers are wanting to present the films they loved in a format a new generation can get it's teeth into. Not that their creative juices are dead, or they are deluded into thinking they can improve them.

As much as I like Coen Brothers movies, the remake of The Ladykillers was rank rotten.



is the new transformers movie out yet?[


Yeah but I cant help but laugh at Don Cheadles cockernee accent

Leave it out.

Oceans eleven isnt a remake?!!

Most people hate the remake of the Italian Job.  I actually liked it.   The original is in a different class though and gets a  8/10.  The remake gets a 5/10.   I am looking forward to the Brazilian Job.   I love films like those, they always make me realize that my life has taken a bad turn somewhere along the route, if I had just done things differently I could have been a high class jewel thief  :D

After checking out my PM's this morning i cant help thinking that a Remake of "Debbie Does Dallas" is long overdue

I was thinking of edward penishands.

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that was remade a few years back

The problem is that they take films that were incredibly successful.
What they should do is take a film that was a good idea, but was messed up in the writing/filming/producing stage and failed.
Learn the lessons and do it properly second time round.

A great example would be a remake of johnny Mnemonic which was a decent script but was a shockingly bad movie.

I wish the film version of John Grisham's "The Firm" could be eradicated from memory and redone.  For some reason they ignored the events of the book and made up their own version, which was too awful to describe.

The annoying thing is that this is his best book and the film versions of his other books have been reasonably good, yet they completely lost the plot (quite literally) with this one.

Sheriff

I'll add the updates to the original star-wars'es as a travesty. There's a special place in hell reserved for George Lucas for making Greedo shoot first. Say no more.

agreed, most remakes are poor at best.
the weirdest was gus van sant's remake of hitchcocks 'psycho', frame4frame the same...i enjoyed it nontheless, hehe.
and martin scorsese's 'the departed' is an excellent remake of 'infernal affairs'.

Sammy Davis Jnr and Big Frank probably the best Brat Pack movie of the lot.

Transformers - April 07 I think (Defo early 07) - A teaser available on YouTube and loads of footage etc on the Transformers movie site.  But Flames on Prime just not right - Flames ffs.

But I have come up with two decent remakes

Cape Fear - both great films.
And the remake of the Fly was OK - very dated and doesn't stand up very well now but of its time, was a good watch.

Interesting that you mention Grisham. Now, I've seen the films but haven't read the books - but it always seemed to me as if the Grisham agenda was to try and take the idea of the legal drama, and remove it from the rather obvious setting, namely the courtroom.

The Firm, The Pelican Brief and The Client were all legal thrillers that had virtually no courtroom time at all. The Firm I found to be almost incomprehensible (perhaps a mini-series would have been better, there was clearly too much going on for one film); the Pelican Brief was better but still too long. The Client I thought was a step further in improvement, being similar to the Pelican Brief, but at least half an hour shorter (Two and a half hours is too long for a legal thriller.)

However, then "A Time to Kill" came out, which I thought was a far superior film to any other Grisham movie. Cast to perfection, and a gripping story.

Is it any coincidence that it was the first Grisham adaptation that was actually based in the courtroom?

Since then we've had a few more, and again the non-courtroom varieties (The Chamber, The Gingerbread Man) have fared worse than the plain-and-simple courtroom dramas (The Rainmaker, The Runaway Jury).

Perhaps there's something to be said for keeping it in the courtroom...?

Talking of legal dramas has just reminded me of two remakes that stand up well as pretty much exact copies of the originals, 12 Angry Men & Inherit The Wind. 12 Angry Men had fantastic central performances from Henry Fonda v Jack Lemmon and Inherit The Wind teamed up Spencer Tracy & Fredrick Marsh v Jack Lemmon & George C. Scott (hell there is even a version with Kick Doulgas and Jason Robards). Admittedly they were TV movie remakes of the originals but goes to show if it ain't broke don't fix it.

I LOVE both 12 Angry men and Inherit the Wind (the originals). Still haven't seen the remakes as yet. Been trying to find downloads for 12 Angry men but no joy.

I was convinced that Kirk Douglas version of Inherit the Wind had Burt Lancaster in the evangelist role, but I guess not. I think 12 Angry Men was originally a play, its certainly staged like one. I caught the Jack Lemmon version on TV (looking at imdb it says they are tv versions) so you might have difficulty locating it on dvd or video. Try http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-ANGRY-MEN-vhs-Jack-Lemmon-George-Scott-Very-RARE-oop_W0QQitemZ120047667101QQihZ002QQcategoryZ309QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-ANGRY-MEN-vhs-Jack-Lemmon-George-Scott-Very-RARE-oop_W0QQitemZ120047667101QQihZ002QQcategoryZ309QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem)
if your desperate.

Cheers for the info happybhoy,

Was watching 'Inherit the Wind' again the other day and was again blown away by the performance of Fredric March...'Gimme that old time religion'..:)

Well you seem to have missed the really bad Christmas with the Kranks, which is a movie version of Skipping Christmas.  I loved that book it was really funny.

Was 'Christmas with the Kranks' a courtroom drama?

:D

Hi,

 It ain't often you get the original & remake a work of class but cape fear
mentioned a few posts back was certainly that.

 For tongue n cheek & fun value then the two Italian jobs & robin and the
seven hoods & oceans 11 are great entertainment.

 The getaway was a fantanstic movie and it's remake was more than a tad
passable.

                    Neves.

Rolllerball, what a pile of compost. As for japanese to western conversions they have all been respectable in my view apart from Dark Water, good acting but no creepiness/mental happenings.

Now I really loved the remake of rollerball.................just thought I would be contentious..............mind you there have been a number of movies about pens pencils and the suchlike...............Eraser........Swords of an honourable Ruler..........Pin (the movie).............of course there is Parker in the Thunderbirds...........