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You are currently CL with 350,000 with 4 players left, other players have 300,000, 195,000 and 110,000
Blinds at 6,000/12,000 antes 1000.
All are good players but the shortstack is now just pushbot mode.

You are in the BB with  Qh Js and UTG (300,000) raises to 36,000 and it is folded to you. Raisor has been fairly active as has everyone and it is fair to assume he has some sort of hand. He has laid down hands to re raises and he has made re raises himself. He has raised your BB on 2 of the 6 circuits since it became 4 handed.

1,You call, raise or fold?

You call

Flop comes   8d Ts 3d

2, You check or bet?

You actually bet 35,000 and the oppo calls

Turn brings   Jd

3, Check or bet?

You actually bet 50,000

The oppo moves all in

4 Call or fold?


Would you have played this any differently at any stage?

Prizes are $12,000, $7,000, $4,500 and $2,900 if that has any impact on your decision

JQ on your bb four hand is definetly a hand that can be defended...if not reraised with. (which is probably what I would do...ask him for another 50k-60k and see what he does..the problem with that one is of course that if he moves all in he is new CL..so might not be the smartest move..but I'd give that a go)

You've called and have essentially flopped a BB flop. No picture cards but it's very likely you have some sort of piece of it if you were defending your blind. so the bet is the right thing to do IMO.
His Flat call doesn't signify anything really..I would take him for 2 overcards (easily done on that flop) or the FD.

Trouble looms when the flush/jack hits. you now have top pair (but with Queen kicker where it's possible he has AJ KJ something like that) and the flush is out there. He won't believe yu have the flush..so doesn't need to have it to raise all in with.

I would be tempted to check the turn to see what he does. if he raises then you stick him all in. In that case (unless he has the flush) he has to believe you have a very decent hand..possibly low flush even and even if he has KJ/AJ he might lay it down(assuming he doesn't have A or K of diamonds). If he moves all in after you check I would fold.

I would fold I reckon

Is the check raise allin a bad play here (on the flop)? The pot is 78k which means if he bets he will make it around 50k, which you can then call and raise another 214k (into a 178k pot). Is this play too transparent (i.e. is it obvious you are on a draw) and do you think he would gamble with 2 stacks shorter than him?

fair point..that would probably work unless he has an overpair to the board (say he's playing pocket 9's)