Title: call or fold Post by: tantrum on November 02, 2006, 12:07:05 PM MTT mid tourney low buy in
10 handed tble stacks are all about the same 4k blinds 75/150 you raise from utg+1 with QQ 300- 450 to go and you get 3 callers the flop 222 you check - all three go all in so the pot now is about 12k and you have to call all in. only AA/KK can beat you unless someone got quads (unlikely) do u call? Title: Re: call or fold Post by: boldie on November 02, 2006, 12:11:34 PM yes
Title: Re: call or fold Post by: tantrum on November 02, 2006, 04:22:57 PM TBH - i my software a bit froze, i got timed out and lost the hand.and i would win it otherwise nice pot.
as they had TT/JJ/AJ!!!!!! ;frustrated; ;frustrated; ;frustrated; Since then I went hiding in the jungle, but was considering a fold or last minute call, my babboon brain went on the freeze mode, as i thought surely one of them has to have better hand then me. But then considering the buy in level i gave too much credit to those pple. lesson learned .... if it was against one or 2 players i would call but freakign 3- freaked me out.... Title: Re: call or fold Post by: partyholdem on November 21, 2006, 04:15:27 PM I think that I will call in that situation, QQ is quite a good starting hand, and in addition with those 222! Good full house, not to mention that is unlikely any of the others to have a 2 in his hand, or AA, or KK...
Bryan Nelson Mods Edit: External Link Removed Title: Re: call or fold Post by: The_Diamond on November 21, 2006, 05:37:54 PM Unless you are playing against 3 faeces throwing monkeys then you should fold. How can it be possible you are ahead here?
Title: Re: call or fold Post by: boldie on November 22, 2006, 09:37:12 AM Unless you are playing against 3 faeces throwing monkeys then you should fold. How can it be possible you are ahead here? more often then not you'll be ahead. player one raises as he has a half decent hand., player 2 and 3 think (feck it I'll hit and if not I've got a good high card)... you will be ahead more often then you think. Title: Re: call or fold Post by: tantrum on November 22, 2006, 11:26:23 AM Quote Unless you are playing against 3 faeces throwing monkeys yes I was against those monkeys, not paying attention to the table might cost a player big pot.... Title: Re: call or fold Post by: matt674 on November 22, 2006, 12:53:52 PM could you please stop giving away all my secrets to winning!!
Faeces flinging is a very fine art - one which i will demonstrate at the next blonde bash! ;) Title: Re: call or fold Post by: SupaMonkey on November 22, 2006, 01:44:38 PM Didn't you know that AJ is the nutz.
Title: Re: call or fold Post by: johnmul99 on November 22, 2006, 06:43:22 PM did you see brunson fold a similar hand to a bet from chip reese in the 50K horse at the world series when reese had pocket kings. i would consider that one of your opponents had you looks like a fold to me
Title: Re: call or fold Post by: The_Diamond on November 22, 2006, 07:11:25 PM did you see brunson fold a similar hand to a bet from chip reese in the 50K horse at the world series when reese had pocket kings. i would consider that one of your opponents had you looks like a fold to me God yeah, that hand and this one are almost identical. ;surrender; Title: Re: call or fold Post by: johnmul99 on November 22, 2006, 07:32:30 PM i know the situation was completely different, but the objective is to win, you have only committed 10% of your stack and you have checked on the flop where as brunson led out on the flop. as your opponent i would put you on 2 big cards and move with any pair on that flop, do you think leading out would have been a better play??
Title: Re: call or fold Post by: The_Diamond on November 22, 2006, 08:25:55 PM did you see brunson fold a similar hand.... i know the situation was completely different, but.... lol! ;D Title: Re: call or fold Post by: boldie on November 22, 2006, 08:42:57 PM i know the situation was completely different, but the objective is to win, you have only committed 10% of your stack and you have checked on the flop where as brunson led out on the flop. as your opponent i would put you on 2 big cards and move with any pair on that flop, do you think leading out would have been a better play?? there are only 3 hands that are beating you here and I am pretty sure all three of those would have left the raising upto you. any pocket pair might stick a small bet in here and, as that happened, it's a fairly safe bet that your queens are still ahead. Title: Re: call or fold Post by: The_Diamond on November 22, 2006, 09:49:15 PM i know the situation was completely different, but the objective is to win, you have only committed 10% of your stack and you have checked on the flop where as brunson led out on the flop. as your opponent i would put you on 2 big cards and move with any pair on that flop, do you think leading out would have been a better play?? there are only 3 hands that are beating you here and I am pretty sure all three of those would have left the raising upto you. That's not ho the action went. 3 players went all in, in turn. 2 players didn't get the chance to slowplay. The 3rd player to go all in has to be the greatest retard in poker history not to have a Aces or a 2. Title: Re: call or fold Post by: JungleCat03 on November 22, 2006, 10:02:47 PM Well he'd also have to be foolish for having flat called an utg raise followed by 2 calls preflop, having been presented with the ideal opportunity to repop his aces.
It's highly unlikely anyone has AA or KK here, but lots of pocket pair hands will like and commit to this flop. This is a must call for QQ, especially because you have checked. Title: Re: call or fold Post by: Poppet7 on November 23, 2006, 03:20:09 PM I'd Call
The people that have gone all-in in front of you probably don't have KK or AA because if they did I don't think they would push, they'd check to give others with a smaller pair the chance to bet. I'm also a bit of a risk-taker so I would call everytime and hope no one had called my pre-flop raise with A2 ;) |