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Title: Home Game Question
Post by: jjandellis on November 03, 2006, 12:47:03 AM
Hello everybody!

This is my first post and hopefully the first of many...

I've just finiahed a home game (you know whats coming) and there was a minor dispute on the rules of betting. I am very confident I was in the right. I know I should really check the rule book, but at 62 pages its a little long for this time of night.

The situation is this (all bet values are nominal)...

Blinds 100/200

Player A raises under the gun to 400.

Player D reraises to 800.

Player F has a stack of 1000. He wants to go all in.

To my understanding this is not possible as this would be a re-re-raise. Am I right?

All your help is greatly appreciated! I hope to see a few of u at the APAT (if my wife lets me go and I manage to get in on this one)

 Aspades


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: Poppet7 on November 03, 2006, 12:55:17 AM
Welcome to blonde :hello:

Player F is allowed to go all-in :)


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: Royal Flush on November 03, 2006, 12:58:02 AM
Welcome to blonde :hello:

Player F is allowed to go all-in :)

What she said!

Hello!


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: jezza777 on November 03, 2006, 12:59:46 AM
player F can indeed move all in. If player A calls then player D cannot reraise as Player F's bet was an underraise. Player A still has the option to raise however.

welcome to Blonde

jezza


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: Poppet7 on November 03, 2006, 01:45:57 AM
Yeah :)


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on November 03, 2006, 01:46:56 AM
lol, you can raise as much as you like preflop (as long as no under-raise occurs) in No Limit Holdem. you could re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re raise if you really wanted to.


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: jezza777 on November 03, 2006, 01:48:30 AM
Absolutely. in No Limit Texas Hold'em there are no limit to the amount of raises.


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: AdamM on November 03, 2006, 08:28:55 AM
perhaps jjandellis is getting confused with limit betting. bet, raise, re-raise, re-re-raise, no more raises allowed (assuming more than two players)

as rookie said, number of raises is unlimited in NLHE, although generally it'll be bet, raise, re-raise, pass/call/All-in, unless you're playing very deep stack poker.

not sure the underbet has been explained clearly for you.
if player F moves all in for 1000 player A (or the blinds) can re-re-raise as he's raising the 800 bet.
if he just flat calls the 1000 player D cannot raise because Fs bet wasn't a full raise, which would have been 1200 (400 bet + 400 raise = 800 to call + at least the 400 raise again)
probably not much clearer.

 ;welcome;


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: ACE2M on November 03, 2006, 09:25:43 AM
Welcome to blonde :hello:

I've been to home games where they play this way so you may have picked it up somewhere else.


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: BrumBilly on November 03, 2006, 05:52:48 PM
Nowt wrong with the rulings given so far but by definition the rules for 'home games' are exactly that. I've had the misfortune to enter a game with some very very ODD little rules that totally killed the game for me. Guess that's what I get for thinking some rules were just so blatantly obvious they must be universal. WRONG

One of the rules from this odd game I got involved in was as follows:

NLHE...Minimum bet/raise does not have to atleast match the size of the big blind so long as they match the small blind. So in a scenario where the blinds are 100/200 UTG must call the 200 but can raise as little as 'to 300 total' and in post flop the opening bettor would be legally allowed to bet 100 (the size of the small blind) Go figure...LOL


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: dik9 on November 03, 2006, 06:22:50 PM
Nowt wrong with the rulings given so far but by definition the rules for 'home games' are exactly that. I've had the misfortune to enter a game with some very very ODD little rules that totally killed the game for me. Guess that's what I get for thinking some rules were just so blatantly obvious they must be universal. WRONG

One of the rules from this odd game I got involved in was as follows:

NLHE...Minimum bet/raise does not have to atleast match the size of the big blind so long as they match the small blind. So in a scenario where the blinds are 100/200 UTG must call the 200 but can raise as little as 'to 300 total' and in post flop the opening bettor would be legally allowed to bet 100 (the size of the small blind) Go figure...LOL

I was dealing an event in St Helens, when a so called experienced TD, told me the minimum raise was the Small Blind, i nearly wet myself laughing, but he was TD and his rules were the ones we had to operate from. A company had obviously paid a lot of money for this guy to assist with their new poker site. I will never take Celebrity poker seriously now!! ;D


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: bone1986 on November 03, 2006, 06:38:11 PM
I have played in a game where if someone goes all-in the other players can only call the bet and the betting in further streets is not allowed, I was delt aces and raised it pre flop to around 300 with the blinds at 50/100, the guy to my left goes all-in for 125 after that everyone called I took back 175 from the pot and we fliped them over, not exactly the best rule in the world. >:?


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: dik9 on November 03, 2006, 06:41:55 PM
I have played in a game where if someone goes all-in the other players can only call the bet and the betting in further streets is not allowed, I was delt aces and raised it pre flop to around 300 with the blinds at 50/100, the guy to my left goes all-in for 125 after that everyone called I took back 175 from the pot and we fliped them over, not exactly the best rule in the world. >:?

LOL well at least you cant get pulled up for saying "lets check it down" ;tk;


Title: Re: Home Game Question
Post by: lazaroonie on November 03, 2006, 10:15:15 PM
my advice for home games, has nothing to do with this particular ruling, but in general it is good advice to nominate one person to be the arbiter of the rules (and a back up incase they are involved in the hand).

That persons decision is final, and it generally keeps the game going.