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Title: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: TightEnd on November 10, 2006, 01:10:35 AM
typically that is, in the small blind with A2Ax Double suited?


No great analysis following the flop, I turned nut flush to win a pot


$5/$10 - Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
Seat 1: Natrykris ($342.50)
Seat 2: cyaparty ($258)
Seat 3: Rufus ($296)
Seat 4: ganmoku ($125)
Seat 5: nevada_bill ($62)
Seat 6: twotimer22 ($67)
Seat 7: IRAISETHEPOT ($172.50)
Seat 8: Bunso70 ($252.50)
Seat 9: thumb_crusher ($111)
Natrykris posts the small blind of $2.50
cyaparty posts the big blind of $5
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Natrykris [As Js Ac 2c]
Rufus folds
ganmoku folds
nevada_bill folds
twotimer22 folds
IRAISETHEPOT calls $5
Bunso70 raises to $10
thumb_crusher folds
Natrykris ?


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on November 10, 2006, 01:17:46 AM
Probably yes, unless you've been playing so passively that a re-raise pretty much defines your hand as a monster.

Your only concern is the lack of cover for the low if an Ace or 2 drops.  Being out of position is a problem too but not so much in limit as in a pot-limit game.

You need to be building a pot here with hands like this in limit.


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: ifm on November 10, 2006, 01:54:16 AM
Everytime.


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: Royal Flush on November 10, 2006, 02:19:42 AM
I cap it till the cows come home.


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: doubleup on November 10, 2006, 08:28:10 AM
I would be reraising obviously, but I'm not sure I would be spending much more time in a 5/10 game where everyone folds to the cutoff who raises.  Although as you have 2 of the aces, it might not have been a typical hand.

I haven't played limit omaha8 for a while, I prefer to get my pain in short sharp doses from nlhe rather than for hours on end.

oops ignore comment about game being to tight just noticed the limper - I still stand by comment about pain :)


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: boldie on November 10, 2006, 12:06:55 PM
Everytime.

yep...I'd agree with that.


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: JungleCat03 on November 10, 2006, 06:32:13 PM
Yes. Always. People putting money in with inferior hands preflop is where most of the money is in om/8 limit. I'd be suprised at 5 10 if the original limper folded.

If you had a different hand, say A234 I would flat call as this sort of hand needs to hit the flop to become strong and you want to play a big drawing hand like this against lots of people preflop.

With a hand like AA2J ds, its potency can be quickly reduced if a flop with a 2, 3 high cards with no A and no fd appears, so get as much in preflop whilst you are strong and charge the moron hands to draw.


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: TightEnd on November 10, 2006, 06:36:06 PM
Yes thanks

I did reraise and played it three way

Flopped the nut draws and turned nut-nut, took three quarters.




Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: JungleCat03 on November 10, 2006, 06:58:46 PM
Yes thanks

I did reraise and played it three way

Flopped the nut draws and turned nut-nut, took three quarters.




sweet


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: totalise on November 10, 2006, 07:07:01 PM
Intuitively it seems like you should be jamming A234 as well, given this position. If you can get the BB and the limper to fold, you have managed to get $10 of dead money in the pot and then HU against a hand that you should generally figure to have at least 50% equity against. if you were in EP and UTG raised, then I think you should prolly call because there is more chance of creating a family pot given ur position at the table, but in the spot tighty is in, Id be ramming A234 pretty hard as well. Not that I play this game much, but thats what my intuition tells me.





Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: JungleCat03 on November 10, 2006, 07:20:15 PM
Intuitively it seems like you should be jamming A234 as well, given this position. If you can get the BB and the limper to fold, you have managed to get $10 of dead money in the pot and then HU against a hand that you should generally figure to have at least 50% equity against. if you were in EP and UTG raised, then I think you should prolly call because there is more chance of creating a family pot given ur position at the table, but in the spot tighty is in, Id be ramming A234 pretty hard as well. Not that I play this game much, but thats what my intuition tells me.





yeh well there's deinfitely an argument for putting in another raise with A234, but I would aiming to get the BB in with this hand. You'll almost never win the pot without hitting the flop hard with a hand like A234, unlike AA2J, so I want to entice people in. (Obviously the hand being what it is, it will connect with a lot of flops.)

I don't know for sure this is the correct approach and I know a lot of good players would jam this hand.

If i could be sure everyone would call, I'd be raising, so there are certain positions that I will raise this from eg big blind after loads of limpers.


Title: Re: Are you re-raising here?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 11, 2006, 04:33:55 AM
Intuitively it seems like you should be jamming A234 as well, given this position. If you can get the BB and the limper to fold, you have managed to get $10 of dead money in the pot and then HU against a hand that you should generally figure to have at least 50% equity against. if you were in EP and UTG raised, then I think you should prolly call because there is more chance of creating a family pot given ur position at the table, but in the spot tighty is in, Id be ramming A234 pretty hard as well. Not that I play this game much, but thats what my intuition tells me.

 ;iagree;

In fact, I like to limp in EP with A234 to encourage extra limpers for the value from the A3's and 23's that will evitably chase post flop.