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So having started playing in Feb this yr , I am convinced that internet poker is bad , addictive , unreal , and probably shouuld be banned , its soo easy to pump cash at it , and one wonders at  the  level of intregity it really attains

It is nothing like live play , bad beats are standard , and frankly I dont trust it anymore


Enough for me , ILL stick to live play from now on



Does anyone agree ?/

Rover  8d 8h

losing then yeah? Welcome to Blonde.

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I won a sit n go once. How can it be rigged if I won all that money? Or do you think they let you win once or twice so that you put even more money on there?

I played live once and my Royal Flush lost to 5 of a kind. gutted I was but at least I can be sure it wasn't rigged right?

Consider the plus points:
1) You can play completely naked.
2) You can pee in a bottle under the desk.
3) You can call other players whatever names you like.
4) You can shout profanities at the monitor.
5) You can watch TV at the same time.
6) You can play whenever you want to.
7) You can sit out while you walk the dog.
8) You can cross-dress, dance on your chair and eat chocolate fudge cake during a tourney.
Ban internet poker? No way Jose.

completely agree, though i can only get away with number 8 on a friday/saturday night.

Having trouble buying fudge cake, huh?

WOOHOOO .... Bolts back, now who's first to get a post that requires the use of a thesaurus

Rover,

good first post. Try playing better

regards

those fudge cake dealers are pretty serious!!

They hang about in the darkest corners of the roughest estates, it takes me a while to get the bottle to approach them, especially if i'm asking them to tic me a slice till i get some money net week.

I always wake up feeling sick and guilty in the morning though, i need to move on to the less serious stuff: sponge cake,cup cake.

I once went cold tukey gave it up all together, 4 months i lasted! i had a buiscit now and then and shared a cherry bakewell with a friend but that was it.

lol i need to play 100 times better !!! my record for live play is as follows

played 146 tourneys live ,  reached 22 finals , won 3   placed 2nd once and 3rd 5 times , am up 4600 in prize money



internet tourneys  played 200 won none , reached 8 finals , lost  2150




what would you reccomend i do ???  I am convinced it is rigged


but hey enjoyed the replies


Rover

Out of interest - who do you think it's rigged in favour of - and why?

All internet poker sites have agents working for them in secret hideaways. They register under assumed names such as, LuckyMan, RiverMan, and LuckyRiverMan. These agents are paid by the sites to play at the tables.
Meanwhile, in the back rooms, a hand-picked techno guy with bifocals and a moustache is running the random number generator software. He is on an undisclosed wage to ensure the field agents win the money.
I though everybody knew this?

What sort of stakes do you play both live and online?
I don't want to criticise but 22 finals from 146 is a little bit on the slender side so i wonder how you manage such a decent profit.
I never really keep records myself but i know my first year playing live i was over £8k up playing on average three times per week (sometimes as much as 7 times).
Mainly £10 rebuys.

I guess the field sizes are pretty differing, I mean, 22 finals (and 3 victories) out of 146 tournies and you are only up 4600? sounds like figures from tournies that start with 30 people.


Compare that to your internet tournies, nearly all of them have over 200 people in them, and after 200 tourneys you haven't won one. that would make sense. If you played 3000 tournies and still hadn't won one, then it would mean that either internet poker is rigged, or you aren't as good as you think you are. Try not to make much out of insignificant statistics. 200 means close to zero., especially in big fields.

I would recommend you keep playing, and try to figure out why you are losing, and be honest with yourself. A lot of live players tend to find that they cant win on the internet when they first start, its a different style of play. People aren't scared to lose, they dont fold QQ UTG to g'tee a one buyin profit, they dont fold every hand for 3 hours in order to "not risk their tournament life". If you do think it is rigged, then you are correct to give it up altogether, you wont play well if you dont think the playing surface is level.

::) rotflmfao ::)

Just clocked that :D :D :D

Well I know for a fact that internet poker is rigged.  The reason I know this, last month I had a visit from the LuckyMan and RiverMan and LuckyRiverMan, I must admit they are quite handsome for the computer secret agents, and after I have served them endless bottles of booze they have confessed to their crimes.  

they gave me various tips how to beat the system, but I can't share their secrets except one- fold before the river and most likely you will win.

My usernames

stars : Luckyman

full tilt : luckyriverman

UB : LKyRivMAN

Tribeca : Flush Royal

All rigged accounts just for me, weeeeeeeeee

    :o


Glad i'm not the only one that does that!

people are joking when they say they do this right?

welcome to blonde LutonRover.


Perhaps it is unsurprising given his name, but I know Lutonrover from across the felt and I know he enjoys reading blonde, so its good to see him on the forum.

are u saying you don't do that?




Welcome to blonde forum lutonrover....

Of course they're joking.  We all wear nappies when we play, don't we...?

Of course............. ;ashamed;

oops never thought about that one before, thnx for the good idea....

gross

144

Players play more hands online, players play worse starting cards online.

So I should hope there are a hellava lot more beats online.

I get 10 before breakfast some days, don't even bat an eyelid at the beggining of a sesh. (It still pisses me off if I bubble in the last couple before bed :) )

Live is different to online yes. Adjust and win, adjust and win.

Took me a while..

Dozen it always?

I had to brace myself for that one...

A brace is two silly... ::)

Are you keeping score?

Twenty

What gets me is . how random are the hands , who supervises the tables , can someone determine who gets what ???

anyway I am finished with it , dont tust it , all my senses tellme its rigged


have fun

Rover

You didn't answer my question - why is it rigged and who benefits?

Here's an interesting slant on the potential rigging of online card rooms.
Let's say that only around 20% of online players turn a profit; statistics would back that up. If we then say that around 15% of players break even, that leaves 65% of players making a loss.
If you ran a card room with regular traffic amounting to say, 10,000 players, that would mean 6500 of them would be losing cash on a regular basis. Now let's say you had the facility to rig the software. Financially speaking, you want to keep the majority coming back at the risk of losing a few of the minority. So, every now and again you fix the software to reward the losing players in the knowledge that as they are losing players, they probably don't keep any records. That periodic 'big win' keeps them hooked.
Meanwhile, the winning players adhere to the belief that the long run will pay off for them, so they stick around too. And those breaking even most likely don't care either way.
The benefits are simple, the money is in the rake. More players, more hands per hour, more rake.

I don't believe this for one moment, but if a site was determined to hang on to players, what better way than to reward the regular losers periodically?

aha - that explains my quarterly MTT win :D

why risk millions in profit from rake justfrom providing a service.
 I personally think the cards are more random than any self dealt card room game. how many cant shuffle, i also saw a pub poker game last week where the landlord dealt and every 3 or for hands he would move his card protector after the flop when he wasn't in the hand, if it went towards the pot then the more the guy opposite would bet his draws.

I also think alot of live players can't adjust to net play, the lose a feel for the pace, and need to see the opponent. Same way a net player has to adjust 1st time they go live.

ACTUALLY I THINK THIS IS TROLLING POST ANYWAY

I don't think you're wrong...

The poker rooms don't have to do anything to rig the cards - the nature of the game is that it rewards losers periodically anyway. Some muppet who goes all-in with A2 and gets called by the good player's KK will still win the hand three times in ten.

hey! there's nothing wrong with going all in with A2! Billy shouldn't be calling with KK ;)

It's not. I know the poster. They are genuine questions

LOL just noticed your sig floppy

Sam: It doesn't look much like a frog.
Max: My innocence has been shattered by this blatant tourist trap. I want my money back.
Sam: We didn't pay anything.
Max: Well, somebody better give me some money.

Genius :) What a great game.

I think you have to separate a feeling of being rigged and being actually rigged.

 If you are convinced it is rigged why don't you try to prove it?

The fact is that pple online play different poker.  Yes, it happens to all of us that there are days where every single hand that you are involved in and you are favourite to win you lose, but those days pass.  The same happens i am sure in a live game.  How many times while playing live you are completely cold decked, how many bad beats you suffer when playing against certain players, online is more visible and memorable.  For some reason we don't hear winning online players suggesting that the online poker is rigged.  I am not talking here about some dodgy poker sites, but i can't imagine that a lot of pros would play on well known sites if they suspected those sites are rigged.  

Online poker is subject to, one way or the other, to cheating, but so live games.  In order to win online, one must adapt their style to new conditions.  In a live game you can see much easier who is drunk, crazy, want to have fun or play 'proper' game.  Online you can only guess.  Betting patterns and little tells can provide you with some information but you don't know for sure if your opponent is watching tv, do their washing or make dinner while playing a game.  This in turn can result in people calling your raises with random stuff and as a result you can be outdrawn more often, as esp in lower stakes people will see you to the river with all sort of crap.

I think your attempts with online poker and your experiences have more to do with your style of play and your limited knowledge of the techniques  needed to play the game then the site being rigged.

Perhaps your live gamem is heavily depended on reading the physical tells and not betting patterns of your opponents.  From what i deduct your experience online is shortlived and instead of blaiming the site for your misfortunes it would be advisable to actually read some posts and spend some time to adapt to new approach to the game.  

Online poker and live poker require slightly different skills, and once you realise this, perhaps you can then try it again.

excellent post.

 :goodpost: ;iagree;



(not you Boldie, I meant tantrum's!)